Okay "Star Wars: The Old Republic" looks like shit. Now what?
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Yeah, I played WoW for on and off three years, I know what the graphics look like, and no they're not breathtaking. Simple poly shapes with a slap of water colors without any normal and spec map is not what I consider pretty.Who Dares Wins said:
But the game still had me playing for three years, so it most have been doing something right.
I find them extremely pwetty. Also yes, MMOs are supposed to be cash cows which everyone and all their ancestors could run on anything found nearby and mostly you're not looking at them but the all the f-ing numbers that are flying on the screen. (healing, damage, threat, DPS and whatnot)Nomanslander said:
Okay the trailers in the OP weren't particularly ugly for an MMO. The writing however, Jesus even for Bioware that's bad, combined with the artstyle made them look more like a parody trailer than anything else.
However the space combat looks, good, if it's integrated well then it will actually give this game an edge over WoW. My opinon of SW:TOR has significantly increased. Perhaps EA might delay Bioware's inevitable death a little longer.
However the space combat looks, good, if it's integrated well then it will actually give this game an edge over WoW. My opinon of SW:TOR has significantly increased. Perhaps EA might delay Bioware's inevitable death a little longer.
The game still need to be visually stimulating. A game has to switch environment about once every 15 minutes for people to stay "stimulated" a good example of this is diablo 2 and a very bad example of this is Hellgate london where you just went from one subway station to another with very little change.
I now want games that can be classified by the following:lunncal said:
zombie themed kart racing
a business management sim about running a hotel in a zombie crisis
Also, didn't Matrix Online get shut down a year or two ago?Woodsey said:
OT: If graphics mattered, the PC would be the dominant platform, Crysis 2 sales would be insane, Minecraft would not be a success, and the DS would not be best selling platform of this generation.
I'm getting it, because it is 8 KOTOR's in one, and the Star Wars/Bioware fanboy inside me would kill me if I passed thit up.
Dead Island is apparently just a first person Dead Rising clone on an island, bad jokes, illogical weapons and all. It was a cool trailer but I had a feeling as soon as I saw it that I would be disappointed somehow.lunncal said:
OT. Polygon count and texturing doesn't bother me. Animation can be a big deal for me though, especially in an MMO where I spend so much time watching my character do the same thing, I'd like it to be an interesting thing. I chose my WoW character based on her animation set. Currently SWTOR looks like the ranged classes have quite a bit of delay in their animations, but anyone with a lightsaber looks pretty good. It may just be a matter of optimizing the engine between now and release or I may just have to avoid ranged classes. Either way I hope the game turns out well and it's fun to play because gameplay is the most important part in an MMO.
No. Cinematic trailers are meant to build hype. Gameplay trailers are meant to sell the game.Odgical said:
Anyone that buys a game for the cinematic alone doesn't know what they're buying.
And personally, I'm on the fence about SWTOR at this point. I'm definitely going to try it, but I can't predict whether it'll be good or not well... and unfortunately, my radar is leaning towards "mediocre". My radar is rarely wrong.
Yeah, I noticed that too, but if he won't bother watching that vid, I figured what's the point of arguing over SWTOR graphics....=/T0RD said:
lol
Good video, the guy was biased towards The Old Republic obviously, but brought up a few good points. The facial and armor models DO look a lot better now that the game has been in work for a bit. I wish they'd stop showing that huge Conan PC guy though, he did and still looks terrible. >.>Nomanslander said:
I was more disappointed by the hundreds of other reasons that this game will be bad.
Mainly:
The gameplay videos look identical to any other MMO out there
The space combat turned out to just be a rail shooter (even WoW has these)
Anyone who thinks a fully voiced MMO is a good idea hasn't played an actual MMO and doesn't know how much content an MMO needs to be constantly releasing to be successful, or they do not understand how expensive and time consuming it is to be constantly churning out fully voice acted content.
Mainly:
The gameplay videos look identical to any other MMO out there
The space combat turned out to just be a rail shooter (even WoW has these)
Anyone who thinks a fully voiced MMO is a good idea hasn't played an actual MMO and doesn't know how much content an MMO needs to be constantly releasing to be successful, or they do not understand how expensive and time consuming it is to be constantly churning out fully voice acted content.
FFXIV is very graphically impressive.
FFXIV is also so incredibly bad that Square-Enix has yet to begin charging for it, in a desperate attempt to retain enough players to keep the game alive until they get a second chance to launch it with the PS3 version.
Graphics are far from everything in an MMO, as has been said numerous times already in this thread. Gameplay will matter more in the long run, I expect, particularly in this instance. Which may or may not help SW:TOR, since we have no idea how good that gameplay is going to be.
From the look of things... I'm not overly hopeful that this will be the major event that many people are expecting.
FFXIV is also so incredibly bad that Square-Enix has yet to begin charging for it, in a desperate attempt to retain enough players to keep the game alive until they get a second chance to launch it with the PS3 version.
Graphics are far from everything in an MMO, as has been said numerous times already in this thread. Gameplay will matter more in the long run, I expect, particularly in this instance. Which may or may not help SW:TOR, since we have no idea how good that gameplay is going to be.
From the look of things... I'm not overly hopeful that this will be the major event that many people are expecting.
Hell i don't want it to look that good, that means this graphicsless laptop can actually run the bloody thing!
Sweet, they are making the next starfox 64 in the SWG universe! Seriously though, the game is trying to step out of the tracks of WoW and I applaud them for it. I will buy the game, even if it sucks, just to support them for trying something else. I am so sick of WoW clones cluttering up the market. Even though I am playing rift I still see it as another wow with more character customization.