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linkvegeta

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So the other week I decided to play some old PS2 games.......wow, I had FUN, something that does not really seem to happen with todays games, There are a few select games this generation that are good but I remember most games being fun back in the day except the sports games(those sucked back then too). What I am getting at is why are games today becoming so lame? Is it because of money or that the devs focus mainly on graphics? Or another reason maybe?

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migo

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There are plenty of lame games on the PS2 and earlier consoles, it's just you decided to keep the good ones. With the newer console you're trying out games as they come out.
 

linkvegeta

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migo said:
There are plenty of lame games on the PS2 and earlier consoles, it's just you decided to keep the good ones. With the newer console you're trying out games as they come out.
Yeah but even then alot of the games are not fun, im talking fun with out achievements or trophies. There are so many people who play games solely for those.
 

migo

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It depends on the game. High score focused game are a lot more fun with Achievements, and even stuff like Mirror's Edge is fun when it sets combos for you to pull off.
 

Calcium

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I believe Yahtzee mentioned something about the PS2 having great third party support, which was a reason for it having alot of good (and bad) games.

I wish my PS2 still worked, alot of games I miss playing. Sadly it only lasted a few months before it started the long process of breaking down slowly. Ironically, as the PS2 broke easily (in my case) and the Xbox never gave me any issues, it was a 360 for me.
 

yaoinut

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Less we not forget, memories and even re-enacting those memories can bring about the rose-tinted glasses. We want games of our past to be good, so automatically you file them as better than anything today because of happy child hood memories.

There were a ton of amazing older games but there are equally amazing new console games as well. Bioshock, Dragon Age, Super Mario Galaxy 1+2.

Every generation has it's share of winners and stinkers. Once we move on to the next one, we will think fondly of this one and convince ourselves of golden this generation was as well.
 

deathbydeath

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i'm planning on getting some old pc games off of amazon, partly because i heard they were masterpieces, partly because i was too young to play them, and because recent games are getting more expensive and somewhat bland.
 

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I love many new generation games, but I guess we're just more inclinded to enjoy the fruits of our past. Still, I don't think that time makes a good game, it's the game itself. Just because it's on an older system doesn't mean it can't be fun to play, even to this day.
 

linkvegeta

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yaoinut said:
Less we not forget, memories and even re-enacting those memories can bring about the rose-tinted glasses. We want games of our past to be good, so automatically you file them as better than anything today because of happy child hood memories.

There were a ton of amazing older games but there are equally amazing new console games as well. Bioshock, Dragon Age, Super Mario Galaxy 1+2.

Every generation has it's share of winners and stinkers. Once we move on to the next one, we will think fondly of this one and convince ourselves of golden this generation was as well.
I understand what you mean but I was playing games i never played before, and i enjoyed them far more than anything on the ps3 or 360 or wii.
 

supermariner

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No, definately not

are some old games better than modern ones? YES
are some new ones better than old ones? YES

i agree with you that old games are the best
two of my top five games ever are on the PS1
Two of my top five games are on the PS2
and only one is on the Xbox 360

but older isn't NECESSARILY better. i think it's a mixture of variety and nostalgia that tricks me into occassionally thinking this
 

Tanis

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Eh, I think it's mixed.

From what I understand the 360/PS3 are both harder to program for...also, because of the graphical expectations there's less time to focus on other aspects of the game...and less money.
 
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yaoinut said:
Less we not forget, memories and even re-enacting those memories can bring about the rose-tinted glasses. We want games of our past to be good, so automatically you file them as better than anything today because of happy child hood memories.

There were a ton of amazing older games but there are equally amazing new console games as well. Bioshock, Dragon Age, Super Mario Galaxy 1+2.

Every generation has it's share of winners and stinkers. Once we move on to the next one, we will think fondly of this one and convince ourselves of golden this generation was as well.
Lest we not forget, there were aspects of game design that have changed drastically over the years, and as a result older games tend to do certain things in certain ways which may appeal to some people in ways that newer games won't (and vise versa, obviously).
And as much as many games from those bygone eras have aged like crap, there are also many that haven't aged a day.

To put it bluntly, Doom still plays great, and there simply aren't any modern AAA first-person shooters that play a whole lot like Doom, so continuing to hold Doom on some awesome pedestal of awesomeness is arguably completely reasonable.

Are older games automatically better than newer ones? Not necessarily, but there is a whole lot of mind-blowing awesomeness that is quite worth tapping from any gaming generation. It's certainly not just "rose-tinted glasses."
 

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linkvegeta said:
migo said:
There are plenty of lame games on the PS2 and earlier consoles, it's just you decided to keep the good ones. With the newer console you're trying out games as they come out.
Yeah but even then alot of the games are not fun, im talking fun with out achievements or trophies. There are so many people who play games solely for those.
And that's how they have fun. "Fun" is not universal. Never, ever assume that. Everyone has fun differently.
 

yaoinut

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Tupolev said:
yaoinut said:
Less we not forget, memories and even re-enacting those memories can bring about the rose-tinted glasses. We want games of our past to be good, so automatically you file them as better than anything today because of happy child hood memories.

There were a ton of amazing older games but there are equally amazing new console games as well. Bioshock, Dragon Age, Super Mario Galaxy 1+2.

Every generation has it's share of winners and stinkers. Once we move on to the next one, we will think fondly of this one and convince ourselves of golden this generation was as well.
Lest we not forget, there were aspects of game design that have changed drastically over the years, and as a result older games tend to do certain things in certain ways which may appeal to some people in ways that newer games won't (and vise versa, obviously).
And as much as many games from those bygone eras have aged like crap, there are also many that haven't aged a day.

To put it bluntly, Doom still plays great, and there simply aren't any modern AAA first-person shooters that play a whole lot like Doom, so continuing to hold Doom on some awesome pedestal of awesomeness is arguably completely reasonable.

Are older games automatically better than newer ones? Not necessarily, but there is a whole lot of mind-blowing awesomeness that is quite worth tapping from any gaming generation. It's certainly not just "rose-tinted glasses."
I do apologise. I did not mean to suggest that enjoyment from older games only came from the rose-tint. I merely wanted to point that it is a factor for some people.

I love many old games. I can replay the old point and click adventure like Day of the Tentacle and Sam and Max frequently.

I think a lot of enjoyment can be found in generation. Every generation has it's gold stars and its sewer sludge.
 

darksakul

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Memories and Nostalgia makes games better and greater than games of today.

Its the same phenomenon why so many Baby Boomers and politicians think the 1950's were our Golden age. It may not actually be better, but out memories make it feel that way.

Like those who grew up on the Atari 2600 and the NES, first saw the visual effects in Genesis and SNES were amazed. Seeing the Boss fights in Link to the Past made me think this was the most epic Zelda game ever. Those who had First the SNES or genesis felt the same way about the N64 and PlayStation. Fast forwards to now, visual graphics has almost hit a wall, we reached a point how realistic we cam make an environment and characters in polygons. And game ideas are (or appear to be) recycled over and over, the market became stagnant in old ideas and a lack of defined technological development.
 

yaoinut

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I do miss the simplicity of the SNES era, when games could be about anything you want. Games these days do seem to require some degree of realism. SNES games were strange and that was part of the charm.