It's the old switcheroo given a modern twist.This seems to be the general response.
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I mean, where's the lie?
All the Switch Pro hype have from "experienced industry insiders" that didn't work for Nintendo, breathlessly talking about a New 4K Switch every 3 months since the Switch was released. All Nintey did was:
A) Source a new chipset because their original chipset had a critical security flaw and the new components just happened to draw less power (the gen 2 Switch)
B) Simplify the design and cut down the complexity to build a cheaper handheld only console (Switch lite)
and
C) Source a huge batch of cheap phablet screens because, turns out, nobody wants a 9" phone, tacking on another few bits to address a handful of cheaply fixed consumer complaints (Switch OLED)
In true Nintey form, they still haven't added bluetooth audio support for some unfathomable reason
All the Switch Pro hype have from "experienced industry insiders" that didn't work for Nintendo, breathlessly talking about a New 4K Switch every 3 months since the Switch was released. All Nintey did was:
A) Source a new chipset because their original chipset had a critical security flaw and the new components just happened to draw less power (the gen 2 Switch)
B) Simplify the design and cut down the complexity to build a cheaper handheld only console (Switch lite)
and
C) Source a huge batch of cheap phablet screens because, turns out, nobody wants a 9" phone, tacking on another few bits to address a handful of cheaply fixed consumer complaints (Switch OLED)
In true Nintey form, they still haven't added bluetooth audio support for some unfathomable reason
Nintendo's mindset seems to mirror Apple's- "We don't configure our products to you; you configure yourself to our products".
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What is even the point of this refresh? The only thing anyone actually asked for that they did was the ethernet port.
It helps they have a lot of beloved franchises on exclusive lock, so you have to go to them to play Zelda, Metriod, Mario, etc and they know it. Even if they often neglect the older entries for reasons I don't understand....
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If you want to play Zelda or Mario you have to get a Nintendo console. If you want to play Metroid or F-Zero you can get fucked though.
Thanks Nintendo!
Metroid at least is getting a new game(possibly another in the next year or so). Though it would be nice if Fusion, Zero Mission and/or the Prime Trilogy would get a port/emulated release.
I really would like the play the Prime games. I just don't want to buy a Wii to do so. I don't want to buy a Wii at all, for that matter.
F-Zero is apparently dead forever, it seems.
Yeah but exclusives arent just a Nintendo thing. You would assume if you are a big mario and zelda fan, then you should probably get whatever the latest Nintendo is. That isnt a big deal.
Exclusives breed competition and they make better games because developers can optimize the game for the exact hardware it is going to run on. You'd be surprised what has to get adjusted to make sure a title works across 3 or 4 platforms.
They have to "innovate" for the sake of it, otherwise they consider their old franchises dead weight.
BTW, get Fast RMX on Switch. It's literally an F-Zero game, all but in name. The game even has the same announcer from the GX game. You, the wife, and the kids will love it.
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You'd think after nearly twenty years of the DS, Wii, 3DS, Wii U, and now Switch people would get it through their heads that Nintendo is DONE with the arms race bullshit and is more about being experimental and relying on top tier design brought on by creativity. And considering how the Switch is poised to surpass the Wii's numbers later this calendar year, it seems they were right. Again. And that's not even getting into how the PS5 and Series X have been slow to pick up, a lot of it due to a chip shortage that is expected to last for some time. Not exactly easy to do a "Switch Pro" when that's still going on.
You'd think after nearly twenty years of the DS, Wii, 3DS, Wii U, and now Switch people would get it through their heads that Nintendo is DONE with the arms race bullshit and is more about being experimental and relying on top tier design brought on by creativity. And considering how the Switch is poised to surpass the Wii's numbers later this calendar year, it seems they were right. Again. And that's not even getting into how the PS5 and Series X have been slow to pick up, a lot of it due to a chip shortage that is expected to last for some time. Not exactly easy to do a "Switch Pro" when that's still going on.
I think the disappointment is two fold.
Number one all the "insiders" talking about a Switch Pro build up hope. And to be fair Nintendo HAS done a more powerful version of an existing console in the NEW 3DS which had more power behind it to run later generation games. So a Switch Pro wasnt a far-fetched idea considered the limiting power of the Switch compared to the 3rd party games that would be trying to get ports.
Monster Hunter Stories 2 reviews are already talking about how the game doesnt run very well on the Switch, despite the game being primarily a Switch game. Skill Up played and reviewed the game on PC because the game didnt run well on the Switch. So the Switches power is a problem even for games designed to be Switch titles.
Number two would be a confusion as to what Nintendo's OLED Switch is even offering. A better stand, ethernet port, and a slightly bigger screen? The design of this "upgrade" makes no sense considering the internals are no different. Especially without a new battery, as a bigger screen with better quality is only going to drain battery life faster and the battery life on the standard switches isnt great to begin with.
Basically not only is this new Switch not what people wanted, but what it actually is is also disappointing.
Well there's ya problem: Listening to """insiders""".
Not necessarily. OLED screens don't require a backlight. So in theory, this new Switch should run longer on the same battery. Having the same guts also helps.
This. I remember months before the switch even came out, GameXplain at all these "insider" details. Most of it was just Erie spouting bull crap, and any information they did have that was legit, was already well known. They tried the skies it is something new. I had long unsubscribe for them by that point because of their Wonderful 101 review. The people there are trash and they do a crabby job reviewing games and putting out news. I never looked back since.
I never said that I ever did that. That's just the source of the hype.
Possible, but this might be offset from t he screen itself being larger. Either way I think if there is a difference it will be minimal.
I'm sorry, but what part of "It's been seventeen years!" do you have trouble understanding? The only one of Nintendo's systems of those past years to get a power boost was the 3DS and this is how many games utilized it: eight. It was a complete wash. There is basically no basis for the idea of Nintendo doing a "Pro" version other than tech junkies WANTING it to be so and not comprehending that most people don't care about power, they're fine with the system as it is.
Seriously, get off of gaming Youtube more. It is brain poison, it is an insular, elitist community that doesn't get what is going on with the larger population. Video game "insiders" have always had this problem of making shit up and basing disappointment off their artificial hype is not okay. The Switch is doing fine, in fact it's got a few more years ahead of it. So maybe third parties should learn to optimize instead of whining about needing extra juice to disguise their sloppy coding.
And even without that, there's the other thing: the chip shortage. Nintendo can't just make parts appear out of thin air, it would asinine to make a Pro because they'd be competing for parts not just with Sony and MS, but basically every tech industry on the planet.
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I'm not arguing against you. I was merely trying to discuss where people might be coming from regarding this thing. I personally don't give a shit enough about nintendo to care.
Nintendo has been notoriously problematic for 3rd party developers. Which is way games like Mario and Zelda run incredibly well but other companies can never get their shit right on Nintendo systems. IIRC 3rd party developers had a hard time getting shit to run right on the Nintendo systems as far back as Gamecube. I couldn't tell you why, I don't know if it is laziness or maybe Nintendo's instructions for their hardware isn't very clear.
Then again Pokemon struggles to run right in a lot of places. So it's not entirely on 3rd party developers.
The main problem being, that Nintendo was always known for being dogmatic and uptight. That led to their high arrogance. And like I said before, and arrogant anything involving making games, publishing games, or consoles is bad for the industry as a whole.