On classical music and widespread ignorance.
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No, I actually listened to a few of their songs and found them to be atrocious; almost as bad as Nirvana, but not quite. You see, I have lots of musical experience to base my judgements on. I compare music I listen to to the greats like Michael Jackson, Bach, Johnny Cash, Beethoven, Jimi Hendrix, Ozzy Osbourne, Miles Davis, Eddie Van Halen, Diana Ross, B B King, etc .... I don't suffer from musical ignorance I just can't stand bad "music".dbmountain said:
What about Black Aria from Danzig?SimuLord said:
Okay, okay... technically, that's not an aria. But technically, this is:
The point of your OP seems to be that people aren't very educated about classical music, and that this is somehow a bad thing, sort of implying an intrinsic superiority to classical music. I would contest this, and not out of ignorance. I'm very educated on classical music which is why I don't listen to it anymore, I think that educating myself about it was certainly interesting but I wouldn't recommend it to the average music-lover. Because I studied the stuff to post-graduate level, and now teach it in my spare time, for me, listening to classical music is a bit like that part at the end of the first Matrix where Neo has his revelation - except that in this case the revelation isn't really all that awesome and I can't do cool karate moves and stuff. Once you can 'see into' classical music it just underlines how stringent the forms and rules are for that style, and you can almost write the stuff in your head before it actually happens even if you've never heard it before, just like someone familiar with the forms of pop music can do with Taylor Swift, above. The better examples are nice music certainly but it's not intrinsically superior to anything else just because it's kind of old and they sing in Italian.
Sure. "Der Holle Racht kocht en meinen Herzen" from Magic Flute (which I'm surprised you didn't have in the original post; the coloratura bits from Der Holle Rache and the "Figaro! Figaro! Fiiiiigaaaaarooooooo!" bit from Largo al Factorum are the only bits of opera most people can come up with), "Donde lieta usci al tuo grido" from La Boheme, the Flower Song Don Jose sings from Carmen, etc.SimuLord said:
I'm playing in the pit for one of the student operas and it's miserably hard to talk people into going. They don't believe me when I tell them it's funny -- they think because it's opera it must be boring, and that's a goddamn tragedy.