I was bullied. I didn't kill myself. I fought back and owned my mistakes.
What's so hard about that?
Oho, getting all Occam's Razor up in here.
What's so hard about that?
Oho, getting all Occam's Razor up in here.
On the subject of bullying.
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Really dude? Really?
Well, lets take into account that some people are so weak as to not put a dent into bullies. The most fighting back would do for them is get their ass beat AND get suspended from school by principals that don't give a fuck who started a fight because as long as you are in a fight at all, you are automatically "wrong"
And that's not even getting into the mental part of it. Some people don't see a point in fighting back. As long as they keep their head down they assume the'll get hurt less than if they throw a punch.
And even after all this, some people just can not handle depression. They see suicide as reasonable. This is in no way their fault.
Your statement of "I did this. Why cant everyone else?" is entirely fucked on all bases.
Well, lets take into account that some people are so weak as to not put a dent into bullies. The most fighting back would do for them is get their ass beat AND get suspended from school by principals that don't give a fuck who started a fight because as long as you are in a fight at all, you are automatically "wrong"
And that's not even getting into the mental part of it. Some people don't see a point in fighting back. As long as they keep their head down they assume the'll get hurt less than if they throw a punch.
And even after all this, some people just can not handle depression. They see suicide as reasonable. This is in no way their fault.
Your statement of "I did this. Why cant everyone else?" is entirely fucked on all bases.
I was bullied too. I didn't kill myself either. Instead I nearly beat a couple of my bullies to death. And I was STILL bullied after that.
Not everyone has the same mindset. Not everyone has the same strength of body or will. What you find easy, another finds hard. The world does not consist of clones of you, even if you'd like it to.
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Not everyone has the same mindset. Not everyone has the same strength of body or will. What you find easy, another finds hard. The world does not consist of clones of you, even if you'd like it to.
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I thought it would take much longer for someone to get this thread. Suppose I'm too accustomed to morons. Great job.SomeLameStuff said:
@ Second post-
Let me google that for you. [http://lmgtfy.com/?q=occams+razor&l=1]
I don't understand why you're referencing Occam's Razor...Oliver Nue said:
Don't you mean Poe's law?
You made the assumption I didn't know what the word in the white text meant. I call shinanaigans on that one.Oliver Nue said:
I didn't know that had a name, but I'm using both honestly. Instead of going into detail about how I shattered the kneecaps of a guy that gaybashed me (Breaking my jaw in several places) by hiding around the corner on my way to the car, then pressing charges because I knew he was too homophobic to admit a "******" is the reason he can no longer walk. Now he can't walk, he's in prison getting butt raped, and I have a shiny new jaw. There are more examples, but that's the best in my book right now. There's nothing difficult about owning up to your mistakes, admitting who you are, and (if needed) fighting back against your oppressors.Daystar Clarion said:
I could go on and on about the stupidity of making a life altering (or ending) decision while your frontal lobe isn't even there, let alone functioning properly, but instead I choose to abuse Occam's Razor and Poe's Law (Thanks for that one, I love you.) to go about my message. A person shouldn't be pitied for not being able to own her mistakes, not requesting to go into home schooling, posting more videos that she should have known would draw in more people, and this girl wasn't even on IAOU. There were plenty of girls in my schools that sent nudes to boyfriends, broke up, had those passed around the school. Not a one killed herself, maybe a few cried for a week but that was it. It's not difficult to withdraw from society, unplug your computer, turn off your cellphone, and keep your legal name off the internet.
In essence, I can't stand bleeding hearts.
@ above-
Let me google that for you. [http://lmgtfy.com/?q=grasping+at+straws&l=1]
Totally agree with you. People handle things in completely different ways. Jeez i was bullied for 8 years straight. I only once fought back and that was in the 7th year of the crap i went through. the result of me fighting back was, yeah sure I broke one of the girls noses, but i ended up mitching school for 7 months failing all my gcse's in the process all because instead of getting better because i stood up for myself it got 20 times worse. Suicial thoughts became common place. No i never attempted it,but i still thought about it. and the only reason i am where i am today is because the girls that bullied me left school at 16 and i decided that my future was more important than a couple of fucktards that take pleasure in other peoples misery.Shadowstar38 said:
OT Just because you handled it in a better way that others does not be its that easy for others.
This thread is going to get pretty heated in a short space of time.
Not everyone is as 'strong' as you.
Sometimes people cannot see past the years of school? Sometimes they just need an ear but they wouldn't know where to start if they had one?
I personally have never seen the psychological torment online bullying can have on people but then again, when I was in school nobody really had MSN and Facebook didn't exist so I imagine things have changed.
HELP, HELP.Nantucket said:
WE ALL HAVE CYBERNETIC IMPLANTS WE CAN'T DISCONNECT FROM THE NET.
WE CAN'T BLOCK PEOPLE ONLINE, LET ALONE AVOID IT ALL TOGETHER.
WHAT SHALL WE DO?!
...You're not serious, are you?
Clarion- Question not the workings of a madman. (AKA it was a vague reference, I'm grasping at straws with it.)
Yes I am.Oliver Nue said:
I have the same opinion as you. Why not block? Why add the person in the first place? We never had Facebook at school so chances of meeting school friends online was slim but believe it not - KIDS DO KILL THEMSELVES BECAUSE OF ONLINE BULLYING.
I remember one lad in this country was constantly called queer online and hung himself behind the garden shed.
Are we not all human beings with the same chemical and compound composition? Sure, my brain chemically works different than what one would consider "normal" but I wasn't born that way. Rather than wallow in despair and self pity for what was going on in my life, I took control and developed into a person lacking much emotion. This is what granted me the strength to survive in this world.saoirse13 said:
I was a normal person, I made myself abnormal through means anyone is perfectly capable of.
I conclude any person sound of mind is therefor fully capable of the strength I possess.
Wow... I feel genuinely very sad for you.
A life with a lack of emotions? Emotions are what powers a human being (metaphorically speaking).
If you didn't smile, laugh, get pissed off or cry then you're not really a person at all. More of a machine.
A life with a lack of emotions? Emotions are what powers a human being (metaphorically speaking).
If you didn't smile, laugh, get pissed off or cry then you're not really a person at all. More of a machine.
Something about fighting back against your bullies being the simplest and easiest option?Daystar Clarion said:
I very much doubt that's the simplest solution.SomeLameStuff said:
I just have this nagging feeling that beating the crap out of someone would have negative repercussions
I never said I wanted to be human. Working to remove emotions from the equation was for much more than the reason of not feeling sad or angry when someone made fun of me, pushed me down stairs, etc. It was and is because I find emotions to be a completely distracting human quality, and life can be enjoyed without them. You're right in that they are still somewhat needed, which is why I made sure not to remove them completely. By only allowing myself to feel anger and the thirst for revenge, I kept my mind capable of true emotion once my frontal lobe began to develop, at point in life when I would be out in the world on my own and had plenty of time to gather the unbiased information I would need to function within it.Nantucket said:
Emotions drive one to make decisions they would not otherwise make. Sad people want to stay sad, angry wants to stay angry, love will override any and all logical thought processes and ignore details. I want to function perfectly, I expect nothing less.
In recent months I've come to realize I too often expect others to behave more like me, an unforeseen side effect of cutting myself off for so long. I'm working on it.
@ Clarion- The world around you is molded in the way you wish it to be. Manipulate situations properly, and you'll never be on the negative end. People, emotionally bound as they are, are easily manipulated. Understand the subject blahblahblah.
It also seems to be the option that turned the OP into a monumental dick.SomeLameStuff said:
So really, bullying has indeed had a harsh impact on his life. He thinks he beat it, but changed quite significantly for the worse, to get by. He seems to be pretty angry now.
What may look like the simplest option at the start, can quite often have far-reaching consequences farther down the line.
EDIT: Anyway, that's me done for the night. Mad Friday has been pretty fucking weird. I'm gonna go smoke and then sleep. Hopefully, whatever's in the water supply will have run out by tomorrow!
Another something I'm working on.Private Custard said:
My young mind was, at the time, incapable of running long reaching projections.
Still, apathy is something we are all fully capable of, and glorifying the death of a teenager too weak to think things through- Well.