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Am I missing something here, or is pseudo-intellectualism the flavour of the month?

Not to offend anyone or anything, but it's just nonsense :D
 

Oliver Nue

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Daystar Clarion said:
Am I missing something here, or is pseudo-intellectualism the flavour of the month?

Not to offend anyone or anything, but it's just nonsense :D
None taken, but I'd really enjoy examples and commentary.
 

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Oliver Nue said:
saoirse13 said:
OT Just because you handled it in a better way that others does not be its that easy for others.
Are we not all human beings with the same chemical and compound composition? Sure, my brain chemically works different than what one would consider "normal" but I wasn't born that way. Rather than wallow in despair and self pity for what was going on in my life, I took control and developed into a person lacking much emotion. This is what granted me the strength to survive in this world.

I was a normal person, I made myself abnormal through means anyone is perfectly capable of.
I conclude any person sound of mind is therefor fully capable of the strength I possess.
Emotionally, we are not the same. We're not some cookie cutter copy pastes that nature spat out in it's spare time. Humans think differently, act differently. We are each a cluster of experiences that are molded over years.

I snapped and fought back, and nearly KILLED two people. If I hadn't restrained myself, I'd be sitting in a jail cell. And even so, my situation didn't change. I was still bullied, except by stronger people because I proved that I could take it.

And I would tread very carefully if I were you. I thought like you once, and it didn't turn out very well for me. Being emotionless is not strength, it's running away.

Quit while you're ahead.
 

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Oliver Nue said:
Nantucket said:
Wow... I feel genuinely very sad for you.
A life with a lack of emotions? Emotions are what powers a human being (metaphorically speaking). if you didn't smile, laugh, get pissed off or cry then you're not really a person at all.
I never said I wanted to be human. Working to remove emotions from the equation was for much more than the reason of not feeling sad or angry when someone made fun of me, pushed me down stairs, etc. It was and is because I find emotions to be a completely distracting human quality, and life can be enjoyed without them. You're right in that they are still somewhat needed, which is why I made sure not to remove them completely. By only allowing myself to feel anger and the thirst for revenge, I kept my mind capable of true emotion once my frontal lobe began to develop, at point in life when I would be out in the world on my own and had plenty of time to gather the unbiased information I would need to function within it.

Emotions drive one to make decisions they would not otherwise make. Sad people want to stay sad, angry wants to stay angry, love will override any and all logical thought processes and ignore details. I want to function perfectly, I expect nothing less.

In recent months I've come to realize I too often expect others to behave more like me, an unforeseen side effect of cutting myself off for so long. I'm working on it.

@ Clarion- The world around you is molded in the way you wish it to be. Manipulate situations properly, and you'll never be on the negative end. People, emotionally bound as they are, are easily manipulated. Understand the subject blahblahblah.
My father once told me;

"Kid. When you're down a hill you can either sit on your arse or climb it again because you ain't got much else to do, have you?" mind you... this is a man who once said, "If you've got a clinger then skip dinner."

I don't believe sad people want to stay sad. Sadness is an emotion we all experience and overcome because it is one of the many obstacles of life. When I had chairs thrown at me at school I would feel so shit but then think to myself, "I'm going to have a good job and they're gonna be dole grabbing plebs." or "Only god can judge me so fuck them" but I don't want to get into a religious debate - that just happened to help me.

I would never want a bullied victim to follow your way because they'll never be happy.
 

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Oliver Nue said:
Private Custard said:
What may look like the simplest option at the start, can quite often have far-reaching consequences farther down the line.
Another something I'm working on.
My young mind was, at the time, incapable of running long reaching projections.
Still, apathy is something we are all fully capable of, and glorifying the death of a teenager too weak to think things through- Well.
It only takes minutes to hang yourself, or bleed out. A severe moment of desperate irrationality and it's all over.

I know three people that have killed themselves over the years. They all seemed fine. People tear themselves apart from the inside out. Quite often, it's impossible to see these things coming :/

You were lucky to have an outlet that stopped you taking it out on yourself.....but you really should have just gone to the police if you'd set your mind on doing 'something'.
 
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Oliver Nue said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Am I missing something here, or is pseudo-intellectualism the flavour of the month?

Not to offend anyone or anything, but it's just nonsense :D
None taken, but I'd really enjoy examples and commentary.
Let's just say that the voice in my head while reading your posts sounds like Nolan Batman making a speech. :D
 

Oliver Nue

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Nantucket said:
"Kid. When you're down a hill you can either sit on your arse or climb it again because you ain't got much else to do, have you?"
So he basically said you can either join the rat race or die, right?
Why not continue down the road at the bottom of that hill and see where it goes?

We'd get all over a circle if we incorporate that, "Not everyone is the same." stuff, but I'm actually quite happy with my life. My way of living isn't generally accepted, nor is it for everyone, but it's entirely possible to be happy with it.
 

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Oliver Nue said:
Nantucket said:
"Kid. When you're down a hill you can either sit on your arse or climb it again because you ain't got much else to do, have you?"
So he basically said you can either join the rat race or die, right?
Why not continue down the road at the bottom of that hill and see where it goes?

We'd get all over a circle if we incorporate that, "Not everyone is the same." stuff, but I'm actually quite happy with my life. My way of living isn't generally accepted, nor is it for everyone, but it's entirely possible to be happy with it.
Well I never said my dad was a philosopher and maybe there is no road? Maybe there's a crocodile pit there and Roger Moore isn't there to give tips on how to jump over them? Get up the hill, son!
 

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Oliver Nue said:
Nantucket said:
Wow... I feel genuinely very sad for you.
A life with a lack of emotions? Emotions are what powers a human being (metaphorically speaking). if you didn't smile, laugh, get pissed off or cry then you're not really a person at all.
I never said I wanted to be human. Working to remove emotions from the equation was for much more than the reason of not feeling sad or angry when someone made fun of me, pushed me down stairs, etc. It was and is because I find emotions to be a completely distracting human quality, and life can be enjoyed without them. You're right in that they are still somewhat needed, which is why I made sure not to remove them completely. By only allowing myself to feel anger and the thirst for revenge, I kept my mind capable of true emotion once my frontal lobe began to develop, at point in life when I would be out in the world on my own and had plenty of time to gather the unbiased information I would need to function within it.

Emotions drive one to make decisions they would not otherwise make. Sad people want to stay sad, angry wants to stay angry, love will override any and all logical thought processes and ignore details. I want to function perfectly, I expect nothing less.

In recent months I've come to realize I too often expect others to behave more like me, an unforeseen side effect of cutting myself off for so long. I'm working on it.

@ Clarion- The world around you is molded in the way you wish it to be. Manipulate situations properly, and you'll never be on the negative end. People, emotionally bound as they are, are easily manipulated. Understand the subject blahblahblah.
Dear God, the captcha has taken human form! And now has posting privileges! You've been studying our ways and now you have come to destroy us. This explains the lack of emotion, functioning perfectly, logical thought processes and all that nonsense.

Anyway...just because you can deal with something doesn't mean others can.
 

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Nantucket said:
Oliver Nue said:
Nantucket said:
"Kid. When you're down a hill you can either sit on your arse or climb it again because you ain't got much else to do, have you?"
So he basically said you can either join the rat race or die, right?
Why not continue down the road at the bottom of that hill and see where it goes?

We'd get all over a circle if we incorporate that, "Not everyone is the same." stuff, but I'm actually quite happy with my life. My way of living isn't generally accepted, nor is it for everyone, but it's entirely possible to be happy with it.
Well I never said my dad was a philosopher and maybe there is no road? Maybe there's a crocodile pit there and Roger Moore isn't there to give tips on how to jump over them? Get up the hill, son!
There's always something past the crock-pit.
 

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Oliver Nue said:
Nantucket said:
Oliver Nue said:
Nantucket said:
"Kid. When you're down a hill you can either sit on your arse or climb it again because you ain't got much else to do, have you?"
So he basically said you can either join the rat race or die, right?
Why not continue down the road at the bottom of that hill and see where it goes?

We'd get all over a circle if we incorporate that, "Not everyone is the same." stuff, but I'm actually quite happy with my life. My way of living isn't generally accepted, nor is it for everyone, but it's entirely possible to be happy with it.
Well I never said my dad was a philosopher and maybe there is no road? Maybe there's a crocodile pit there and Roger Moore isn't there to give tips on how to jump over them? Get up the hill, son!
There's always something past the crock-pit.
More crocodiles.
An endless supply of great big hungry crocodiles. They also have laser beams attached to their foreheads.

Just get up the hill.
 

Oliver Nue

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Nantucket said:
Oliver Nue said:
Nantucket said:
Oliver Nue said:
Nantucket said:
"Kid. When you're down a hill you can either sit on your arse or climb it again because you ain't got much else to do, have you?"
So he basically said you can either join the rat race or die, right?
Why not continue down the road at the bottom of that hill and see where it goes?

We'd get all over a circle if we incorporate that, "Not everyone is the same." stuff, but I'm actually quite happy with my life. My way of living isn't generally accepted, nor is it for everyone, but it's entirely possible to be happy with it.
Well I never said my dad was a philosopher and maybe there is no road? Maybe there's a crocodile pit there and Roger Moore isn't there to give tips on how to jump over them? Get up the hill, son!
There's always something past the crock-pit.
More crocodiles.
An endless supply of great big hungry crocodiles. They also have laser beams attached to their foreheads.

Just get up the hill.
I'll not yet condemn myself to death on an island surrounded by crocodiles, thanks. Been up that hill, it was boring up there.
 

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"But the fool on the hill,
Sees the sun going down,
And the eyes in his head,
See the world spinning 'round.

Ooh, ooh,
Round and round and round."
 

saoirse13

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Oliver Nue said:
saoirse13 said:
OT Just because you handled it in a better way that others does not be its that easy for others.
Are we not all human beings with the same chemical and compound composition? Sure, my brain chemically works different than what one would consider "normal" but I wasn't born that way. Rather than wallow in despair and self pity for what was going on in my life, I took control and developed into a person lacking much emotion. This is what granted me the strength to survive in this world.

I was a normal person, I made myself abnormal through means anyone is perfectly capable of.
I conclude any person sound of mind is therefor fully capable of the strength I possess.
Lack of emotion is not what makes a person strong. In fact it's the emotion itself that makes someone strong. Trust when i say I know Im a pretty strong person and have dealt with and went through alot of shit. I am more emotional and show more of my emotions now than i ever did thats what make you strong, I mean lets face it, if we go by your definition of strong then any sociopath is stronger than any mornal person simply because the lack that quality and and have no compasion or empathy.