Once again PC gaming has failed me :(

[Sunrider]

TIL: One error makes a system obsolete, and being a dick about it is cool.

OP, I've read several of your replies to people in this thread, and while some of them are unnecessary and rude towards you too, you should honestly be ashamed of yourself.

 

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

The product I paid for should just WORK as intended.

HA! Like hell it should. The amount of configurations PCs can have, the way things conflict, means that it shouldn't. To expect developers to be able to sort this shit out for you is laughable, especially when it's a port. Go buy a console if you aren't willing to do this shit, kiddo.

If you want more PC support then start a movement for it.

 

[Vhite]

I was going to mention how laughably deluded PC elitist are against anything negative about PC, but it seems they have already arrived.

See, there is a reason to it. We elitist jerks have some experience with PC gaming already and so, if some game doesn't work, we can make it. And this is natural for us. There were plenty of games that just didn't work when I was starting with gaming but I doesnt happen any more.

Sacred 2 doesn't doesnt work with patches and is too broken without them? Find one of dozen patches that works well enough and doesnt crash. Too crappy PC to run Oblivion? Get Oldblivion mod.

There is always a solution, you just have to be elitist jerk to be able to always find it.

 

[Spitfire]

Have you contacted developer support about this?

 

[Servbot 24]

Well then, it would just seem like it's the horrible port's fault and not the entirety of PC gaming itself, wouldn't it? Everyone pack up your computers.

And

this article [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_265/7935-Punching-the-Baby-Seal-of-PC-Gaming].

was not a great article in the first place.

 

[bafrali]

I know it has dissapointed me too. It was supposed to bring balance to the force, not destroy it.

Seriously ask for some help first then whine about it.

 

[Headdrivehardscrew]

Basically, you are making a case for playing games on consoles.

Standardized, heavily locked-down systems that are technically outdated the very moment they are released, and yet we were stuck with old world tech for, what, six years now?

The graphics and performance I can tickle out of the PC gaming rig is something that makes current consoles look really, really crap. Both the the PS3 and the XBOX360 have their bits and bobs that are 'over-powered', but the specs in total are of mid to low specced computer. The low amount of RAM imposes heavy limitations on how much data can be made available and chugged around. The low amount of video memory does the rest. Then there's the PowerPC thing. And the hardware lockdown. And the regional software lockdown. And... etc.

I do enjoy some console gaming every now and then, but the overall experience just doesn't compare to what's possible on a modern PC. Besides, most issues similar to the one you describe are userland problems, most of the time caused by something outside the norm. Non-standard drivers people install in order to 'get more performance', oftentimes damaging the hardware. Non-standard third party crap that impacts performance. Braindead antivirus solutions that interrupt and mess things up.

...and that's why we got Windows 8 now. Tiles, like in your bathroom. Simple. Efficient. Abhorrent.

 

[Daveman]

I presume defragging and verifying integrity of cache has been done. They're definitely worth doing before a fresh install.

5 out of 6 is still a good ratio.

6 out of 7 days a week I don't get beaten. That's a pretty good ratio, right?

Enough with the abused spouse dialogue. If you are having to go through a ridiculous process for fixing something because it doesn't work as it should that is justified complaining, not slander.

 

[Zipa]

Oh boy its one of those threads.

A suggestion OP, next time you have this kind of issue with well something like this , don't go to a forum and declare the entire platform/item/whatever bad or broken. You are just asking for it.

And reading into this a little bit the whole black screen issue seems to be largely related to Radeon graphics cards, a possible fix is to reinstall the game. Though you might want to try verifying the game cache from Steam first considering the amount of time it takes you to download stuff. (I feel your pain there I used to have that kind of internet connection until like November last year)

Oh and for the people arguing about PC vs console give it a rest, the subject has been over thousands of times now. Be the better person and cut that shit out, you are not going to convert anyone (to either side) with your passive aggressive bullshit.

 

[srm79]

Consoles:
-no worrying about bad ports, or the possibility of the console not being able to handle it, or troubleshooting the game, it 95% if not 100% works all the freaking time with very little to no problems.

You never tried to play a Bethesda game on a PS3 did you? I did.

You're right, I didn't. BECAUSE I'M NOT ONE OF THE MORONS THAT THOUGHT GETTING A BETHESDA MADE GAME FOR THE PS3 WAS A GOOD IDEA.

I have Skyrim for the PC and the 360. Sorry PS3 owners that you wasted your $60 for being an idiot and not check that developer logo on the box. They knew what they were getting themselves into. Their loss as far as I am concerned.

Reading is hard isn't it? I never said Skyrim. I said a Bethesda game. I got Fallout 3. Y'know. The first Bethesda game on the PS3, that wasn't a 3 year late port of Oblivion.

You seem like you've been trolling/trying to instigate for half this thread.

To be fair, prior to Skyrim I never had too many major issues with Bethesda. Fallout 3 and New Vegas, both with all the DLCs in the end and the worst issue I had was that in the later game stages a reboot was needed every couple of hours to clear out the memory. A minor niggle, but nothing deal breaking. Us "idiots" had no way of anticipating just how terrible the Skyrim business would be.

There were actually workarounds for the lag-vs-time played that I found reasonable, but the big kicker was Bethesda admitting that they couldn't figure out how to give PS3 owners the DLC without killing the game. Still, I had a fun couple of hundred hours with it overall so I certainly got my £30 worth.

That, however, is a case of a developer lazily trying to port their game to a system with a different architecture as opposed to a system that's not up to the job. A bit like OP's original problem with er, a shitty port.

Does that make OP an "idiot" or "MORON" for buying a game with known CTD bugs and known to be a bit of a crap port? Or is that only PS3 owners? I think we should be told.

 

[teebeeohh]

Point being, I feel for the OP, PC Gaming is either great one day or horrible the next day. While consoles are consistency pretty good.

unless you want to properly aim in an fps
or play strategy games
or mod your games

but the one argument that always baffles me is "will this run on my PC", there are a lot of sites that will check your hardware against the requirements for a game and while those results may not be 100% correct before a game is released the more people install it on different machines the better the information will be.

Most of my FPS games are on console so I don't care XD.

I hate strategy games, so once again, don't care.

I give a crap about mods...why? Most mods in general are pure and utter crap. I could honestly care less about user made content when most developer made content are better by a long shot (with of course the reason being higher budget or what not). The only type of mods I consider good are mods like that Restored content mod for KOTOR 2. THAT mod was fantastic. Otherwise...yeah I see almost no point in them.

Once again though, the point with consoles is though you don't need to bother with that stuff. You don't need to check for it when they work automatically.

maybe you should have pointed out that console gaming is constantly good for you because of the things you like in your games and that's fine but i just can't play console fps because it really bugs me when i notice how shot that clearly should have went past an enemy still hit him/her/it.

i kinda have to agree with you on most mods being either badly done or gimmicky(the amount of effort people spend on nude mods astonishes me) but most mods i use are the ones that fix the interface/controls/bugs for a game which gets increasingly necessary because a lot of ports suck these days. however, you shouldn't underestimate the work a few dedicated fans can do if you give them a few years, examples would be the things people did with open freespace 2 or wanderers edition/project nevada mods(for fallout 3/new vegas, respectively). and i completely agree that the restored content mod was the second coming of space jesus

and i actually really like getting all my things to run and don't mind the issues i sometimes have because i really value the upsides, like modding and near infinite backwards compatibility.
i guess it kinda is like cars. some people just them to run and take them from a to b, others prefer to tinker with them and rebuild old ones and stuff.

edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw
this is also relevant to your post

 

[Meatspinner]

Down side for consoles? Graphically capability...yeah like people REALLY give a crap about these days. Oh and controller options. That I understand. Even though some people like the OP just can't stand to use the keyboard/mouse instead of a controller but the PC has that option over it so thats true.

Point being, I feel for the OP, PC Gaming is either great one day or horrible the next day. While consoles are consistency pretty good.

i am sorry, jove. i cant let you get away with so little downside examples...

♫ I'm half crazy all for the love of you... ♪

Haha. You got me there. XD

However, I never had this happen to me even once. Unlike most people, I actually take good care of my systems and my games so red rings don't apply to me.

I was about to say the same exact thing, except I play on an old PC.
Funny how cognitive biases work

 

[Zipa]

Oh and for the people arguing about PC vs console give it a rest, the subject has been over thousands of times now. Be the better person and cut that shit out, you are not going to convert anyone (to either side) with your passive aggressive bullshit.

Naaaaaa

PC MASTER RACE FOREVER!

Do bare in mind that I only play on PC nowadays, but I am sick of all this junk about consoles vs PC. We are all gamers so stop beating on each other and enjoy your favourite games on your preferred platform and be happy.

 

[talker]

Haha, looks like your computer sucks. I'll just be playing Sleeping Dogs over on my computer while running Crysis 1 and 2 in the background.

well look who isn't a gloater.

back to the topic, you didn't miss anything. to quote zoidberg: 'it stinks.'


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[Snotnarok]

That's not true about consoles at all, there's bad ports from console to console even to this day. Even Skyrim suffers from being on console, my friend decided to show me the game on 360 and the load times between getting to the game, quick traveling were around 1 minute or so. Then there's the PS3 version which also has it's share of problems as well as no dlc currently.

Assassins Creed 1 was practically black and white and had a really choppy framerate on PS3 while the 360 version was smooth as can be and had more color.

Battlefield 3 on 360 basically required a texture pack install online to make the game look decent.

Batman Arkam City has framerate trouble on the WiiU and apparently has a lot of minor issues.

There's an entire site dedicated to head to head comparisons on console versions dedicated to every detail from screen tearing to average/max/min FPS, texture quality.

PC at least you can adjust something to make the game run better, sure it can be a hassle sometimes but in my opinion the positives outweigh the negatives, not just gaming but then again not everyone works a lot on the PC like I do.

I own both the 360 version and PC version. I have absolutely no problems with either of them. As for the PS3 version, I just blame the idiots that actually thought getting a Bethesda game for the PS3 was a good idea. Especially since the PS3 in general can be a huge mess for developers to develop for. -_-

Yet another PS3 example, although I have not heard of this. Maybe that's why the only PS3 games I have are PS3 exclusives like Uncharted and Infamous. XD

That I remember. Which was a shame, yet just because it required a texture pack to make it "look better", doesn't mean the game didn't work. Unlike some other bad ported PC games.

I could care less about an obsolete trash like the Wii U, so this news is of no concern of mine.

Ok...and? We get it. PC KILLS AND ABSOLUTELY DESTROYS consoles when it comes to overall graphical compatibility and when it actually works, performance too. What's the point of this?

Yes you're right. PC has a lot more options then a restrictive system like the 360 or PS3 consoles.

My point in this is how in general, consoles are more CONVENIENT then Gaming PCs. That's what their best for. That's why there is a big market for them. The reason why most people like them is because they don't need to know any technical information on how to build it or set it up like you have too when you build a Gaming PC. Then there's the fact that in general, most games on the consoles work better than PC games do most of the time. Please don't let me remind you of games like Rage, Saints Row 2, GTA IV, any Ubisoft game besides Far Cry 3, or what not. XD

The problem I saw with 360 skyrim had excessively long load times, quick travel & such had up to a minute, which is pretty bad if you're looking to play a game, my friend was apparently playing a DS game between load times. And I hear the PS3 version is even worse, which is kind of shocking.

Battlefield 3 for 360 wasn't just "looking better" it's like playing a really bad port: http://www.lensoftruth.com/battlefield-3-xbox-360-texture-pack-comparison-pics/ you may notice the ladder in the back is missing it's steps for instance. A problem you don't see with the PS3 or PC variant, which this is my point that consoles also get poor ports that don't always get fixed.

But the WiiU is a console and it's a valid argument, this is something people are buying and it is getting ports of games just like the PC in what you said, they're getting cheated by poor ports.

PS3 has ironically been getting amazing ports to the Vita, PS-All Stars is nearly identical and can play cross platform, that's something really amazing.

Well to be fair about those PC ports you mentioned some of them got updated within a month and work perfectly fine, I can say RAGE even on my 4-5 year old machine works perfectly, I hear GTA IV has been modded to work/look far better and let's be honest about Ubisoft games on PC they're not crap because of porting they're crap because they're idiots and put awful DRM on their games. But yes there are a fair share of dumb ports, but I'd wager no more/less than what gets shoveled cross to another console.

I'm not trying to get on a box and proclaim all hail PC gaming, consoles get ports from other consoles and are often not perfect is my point. I never said that PC gaming is better just maybe that at the end I prefer it personally because of the fact that I work on one enough to need one with good umph. Everything has it's issues is all I'm saying.