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Zacharine

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So, with all these 'what universe would you/would you not wish to live in' threads, here something along the same lines, but with a twist.

The earth is as it is today, but you suddenly have to power change a single thing in any single country other than your home one. And the effect is permanent or temporary as you wish.

For example, you could remove corruption from the current leadership of USA or perhaps make all weapons in North Korea vanish in a puff of illogicality and make sure they can never get new ones.

But now comes the twist: Whatever change you do, your country will have an equal but assuredly negative event of similar nature, also of permanent/temporary nature. Make the weapons of North Korea vanish? You loose them as well. USA get's national debt forgiven? Your country will have to pay for it. The economy of Britain gets saved? Yours is ruined beyond all recognition. Russia suddenly can't dig out raw materials out of their soil? Neither can your country. Japanese car industry permanently crashes beyond all hope of salvation? You guessed it: say good bye to a branch of industry in your country.

And don't worry, there would always be some consequence. So no saying 'loose all nuclear weapons in country X' and then laughing because you live in a country with no nuclear weapons. No, you'd just have some other negative impact on your country.

Now the question:

With this power, would you change anything? Why? And if you would, what would it be and to which country. And what do you imagine the negative impact would be in your country?

Here's my start on things:

I'd permanently make sure Saudi Arabia looses their oil reserves. Perhaps the loss of worlds largest single oil supply in-potentia and also in actual production would force us all to finally develop and really build some economically viable alternative sources of energy. The counter impact I believe would be that no oil or immediate derivatives such a petroleum would enter my country, since we actually have no oil reserves.

Sure, this would royally screw the world economy even more and my country would face pretty much full-blown panic (followed by pretty much the total reorganization of transportaion industry) for the next decade or so, but all in all I believe that would be a positive change as a whole for western world.
 

j0frenzy

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The short answer would be to make no changes. Because I know it wouldn't solve any problem and my short-sighted changes would probably wind up doing much more harm a la the butterfly effect.
 

Scrythe

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Change something? And potentially risk no being able so see us all tear each other to shreds like the savages that we are?

Fuck that, I wouldn't change a damned thing.
 

Ranis

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well any big change would have too many consequences in my mind and i'm fine with our current crappy world
 

RelexCryo

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I'd get rid of Gun Bans, and let people carry guns. Although I would keep some gun control.

http://www.learnaboutguns.com/category/general-firearms-related-articles/

I imagine the equal and opposite effect is that crooks would also have guns. But you know what? According to the math, the net result is still less crime.
 

Cody211282

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The leaders of Iran, and North Korea die

So I'm in the USA, what is the bad thing that happens to us now?
 

Zacharine

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Cody211282 said:
The leaders of Iran, and North Korea die

So I'm in the USA, what is the bad thing that happens to up now?
You forget, who do you think will replace them?
 

Zacharine

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RelexCryo said:
I'd get rid of Gun Bans, and let people carry guns. Although I would keep some gun control.

http://www.learnaboutguns.com/category/general-firearms-related-articles/

I imagine the equal and opposite effect is that crooks would also have guns. But you know what? According to the math, the net result is still less crime.
In which country would you get rid of gun control?
 

Cody211282

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SakSak said:
Cody211282 said:
The leaders of Iran, and North Korea die

So I'm in the USA, what is the bad thing that happens to up now?
You forget, who do you think will replace them?
Someone probably just as bad, oh well, so I take it nothing bad happens to us?
 

blaze96

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Well no matter what the consequence may be, the outcome of this wish would be worth it.

The Wish:
The UK is able to diplomatically bring about world peace and understanding amongst all races, creeds, beliefs, and nations.

There is nothing you could possibly due to the United States that would make this wish not worth the cost. As ultimately, even if my entire nation were wiped off the face of the Earth, many more lives would be saved over the entire existence of humanity.

Edit:Though I must wonder what the consequence for my nation would be.
 

Zacharine

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blaze96 said:
Well no matter what the consequence may be, the outcome of this wish would be worth it.

The Wish:
The UK is able to diplomatically bring about world peace and understanding amongst all races, creeds, beliefs, and nations.

There is nothing you could possibly due to the United States that would make this wish not worth the cost. As ultimately, even if my entire nation were wiped off the face of the Earth, many more lives would be saved over the entire existence of humanity.

Edit:Though I must wonder what the consequence for my nation would be.
*jaw hangs open before closing with a snap*

Oh well played, good sir. Well played indeed.
 

RelexCryo

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SakSak said:
RelexCryo said:
I'd get rid of Gun Bans, and let people carry guns. Although I would keep some gun control.

http://www.learnaboutguns.com/category/general-firearms-related-articles/

I imagine the equal and opposite effect is that crooks would also have guns. But you know what? According to the math, the net result is still less crime.
In which country would you get rid of gun control?
My country, the United States.(I live in California, we are not allowed to carrry guns, and I have been mugged before.) And for the record: I am not choosing to support guns out of patriotic pride or anything. My country has had some pretty stupid traditions and I don't believe in supporting things because they are traditional. I believe in supporting the right to bear arms largely because the math supports it. Check the link I included for some examples.

Oh, and about the world peace thing: The fundamental flaw in your logic is that most cases of international aggression, such as the constant Viking raids of the dark ages or the Roman Empire's Expansion, have nothing to do with xenophobia. The Romans were actually the opposite of xenophobic- they welcomed all gods into their religion. The vast majority of international conflict is just about land and power.

Example: You make the Romans able to understand the Egyptians. The Egyptians understand the Romans. Unfortunately the only thing to understand about the Romans is that they want Loot, Land, and Slaves. So total understanding wouldn't prevent hostility from a group of greedy people who only care about profit...which is what most groups who start wars and invade other countries are.

Ultimately, such a thing would only work through the enslavement of the mind. Only by controlling what people want and how they think can you achieve such a thing, because as long as there is greed, there will be violation of human rights.

So the Downside could very well be the loss of free will. Otherwise, a noble endeavor.
 

SilentVirus

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I would replace everyone's personal sense of judgment concerning bad ideas. I think that way the economy would improve if not only a little.
 

Zacharine

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RelexCryo said:
First:

While I understand your wish, it wasn't exactly within the context of my OP. It was about changing anything in a country that is not your home country and that change ending up with a negative effect on your home country.

Second:

While I am sorry for you getting mugged, I personally am against lack of gun control. I have also been mugged and I've been in a few fights on the street so I know how it feels. But in no way do I see how having a gun for myself or for the criminal would have had any positive effect on the situation. No, I am fully in favour of strict gun control and no average citizen where I live is during their lives faced with a situation where guns would have positive effect. Paradoxically, my nation has the third most armed civilian populace in the world according to Small Arms Survey 2007 by Graduate Institute of International Studies in Geneva Switzerland.
 

Lord George

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I'd make it so I was the Grand Leader of the USA, screw my country, I'm moving out to America to be King.
 

similar.squirrel

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Well, I'm Hungarian so I wouldn't especially mind making the world a better place at the expense of that weird little country.
 

Guitar Gamer

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I remove all formats of fox news, I think we can recover from what ever the reprocutions are just to get rid of those people
 

Cody211282

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Guitar Gamer said:
I remove all formats of fox news, I think we can recover from what ever the reprocutions are just to get rid of those people
Can i raise you a getting rid of MSNBC or CNN with that?