One good thing about Ubisoft DRM

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guitarsniper

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I actually really like their model (at least for Assassin's Creed games, which are the only ones i have experience with) of achievements get you points, and you can get rewards with those points. Steam isn't set up to do that, and i think it's a really good model for achievements. just putting that out there.
 

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The best thing about Ubisoft drm is that it reminds everyone how horrible drm is. Hopefully that will hasten the demise of drm by raising awareness.
 

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That isn't part of the DRM. DRM has nothing to do with achievements and reward points. DRM is strictly about countering piracy, and ubisofts model requires a constant connection to the internet when played on PC. If they took out their DRM, that wouldn't mean that their achievement or reward system would vanish, because they are not one in the same.
 

Vault101

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really?

thats hardly justification...and screw acheivments..I want to play the game..the DRM is an obsticle to that
 

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Ubisoft DRM has saved me so much money because I avoid games I may otherwise have purchased.
 

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Like the "always online" condition is a problem for any of you people. I for one dont' even notice the DRM. Oh wait, I have to press one more button to be able to play the game. Boo hoo.
 

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David Savage said:
I actually really like their model (at least for Assassin's Creed games, which are the only ones i have experience with) of achievements get you points, and you can get rewards with those points. Steam isn't set up to do that, and i think it's a really good model for achievements. just putting that out there.
You don't even need to purchase the game to sign up and use Uplay, do you? That's not DRM.
 

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Wait, you can actually spend your achievement points on stuff? Wow, it's just like getting a plush at the local arcade!

Why hasn't this caught on yet? -_-
 

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ResonanceSD said:
Like the "always online" condition is a problem for any of you people. I for one dont' even notice the DRM. Oh wait, I have to press one more button to be able to play the game. Boo hoo.
It would have been a problem for me a month ago when I moved house. No internet for two weeks. I'm moving again in another five months. No internet for two weeks once again. Then of course, the fact that Australia's connection to the rest of the world is sometimes unreliable, so I would be randomly dropped out of my game whenever a passing whale burped near an undersea cable. No, I chose to avoid all those hassles by refusing to purchase another Ubisoft game ever again. In addition, even if I had the most reliable net connection in the world and I never ever had any kind of service interruption or congestion, I would still refuse to buy on principle. Ubisoft have said "We don't trust you. We think you're a thief." So they can get fucked, I'm not giving them a single cent.
 

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But you don't need the DRM system for that.

It's like saying, "One good thing about the screaming kids on XBL is that I get a friends list."
 

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The best thing about Ubisoft's DRM is that it makes my purchase decisions that much easier. Fuck, I don't even have to wait for reviews any more. It's wonderful.

Activision Blizzard on the box? No go.
Ubisoft on the box? No go.
EA Games on the game? Buy it second hand, just to fuck with 'em.

Their logos are like little red warning lights. So helpful when I'm looking at a shelf full of "MILITARY SHOOTER: MODERN CONFLICT 12" games.
 

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lithium.jelly said:
ResonanceSD said:
Like the "always online" condition is a problem for any of you people. I for one dont' even notice the DRM. Oh wait, I have to press one more button to be able to play the game. Boo hoo.
It would have been a problem for me a month ago when I moved house. No internet for two weeks. I'm moving again in another five months. No internet for two weeks once again. Then of course, the fact that Australia's connection to the rest of the world is sometimes unreliable, so I would be randomly dropped out of my game whenever a passing whale burped near an undersea cable. No, I chose to avoid all those hassles by refusing to purchase another Ubisoft game ever again. In addition, even if I had the most reliable net connection in the world and I never ever had any kind of service interruption or congestion, I would still refuse to buy on principle. Ubisoft have said "We don't trust you. We think you're a thief." So they can get fucked, I'm not giving them a single cent.

I live in Sydney.

I'm doing fine.

Give me one good reason why a company should trust you.
 

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ResonanceSD said:
I live in Sydney.

I'm doing fine.

Give me one good reason why a company should trust you.
Good for you. I live in Perth. Our net access is shit. Not everyone lives somewhere as well-connected as you do.

One good reason why a company should trust me? They want my money. If they not only distrust me, but actively call me a thief like Ubisoft have done, they don't get my money. Simple as that.
 

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lithium.jelly said:
ResonanceSD said:
I live in Sydney.

I'm doing fine.

Give me one good reason why a company should trust you.
Good for you. I live in Perth. Our net access is shit. Not everyone lives somewhere as well-connected as you do.

One good reason why a company should trust me? They want my money. If they not only distrust me, but actively call me a thief like Ubisoft have done, they don't get my money. Simple as that.

Do you also take the view that an airport is calling you a terrorist by making you go through a security check? If so, do you not fly anywhere?
 

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ResonanceSD said:
Do you also take the view that an airport is calling you a terrorist by making you go through a security check? If so, do you not fly anywhere?
Actually I do think the airports are taking "security" way too far and it's quite frankly rather ridiculous. However, attempting to prevent deaths via plane hijacking, however intrusive and ineffectual it actually is, is a rather different thing to deliberately crippling a product and insulting your potential customers merely because you want to make sure you don't lose a tiny percentage of your theoretically possible maximum profits.
 

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lithium.jelly said:
ResonanceSD said:
Do you also take the view that an airport is calling you a terrorist by making you go through a security check? If so, do you not fly anywhere?
Actually I do think the airports are taking "security" way too far and it's quite frankly rather ridiculous. However, attempting to prevent deaths via plane hijacking, however intrusive and ineffectual it actually is, is a rather different thing to deliberately crippling a product and insulting your potential customers merely because you want to make sure you don't lose a tiny percentage of your theoretically possible maximum profits.
Sure, because 4 hour security checks, full body scanners, bomb chemical tests, isn't crippling the product of air travel at all.
 

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Dude, the two really aren't comparable. One at least has an important goal behind it, whereas the other's just about greed. Both, however, have a similar level of effectiveness, i.e. none.
 

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ResonanceSD said:
I live in Sydney.

I'm doing fine.

Give me one good reason why a company should trust you.
They can trust me as well as they treat me.

If they give me a product that is inferior to a cracked version that stops working on single player when my internet crashes (which happens a lot) they can't trust me much. If I were to play Ubisoft games for PC, it would be pirated copies because the pirated cracked version is the superior version.

If they give me a product that is even equal to the pirated version, I would pay for it.

They are going to have to trust me enough to treat me well because that is the only way they will get my money. Also, trust me or not, paranoid DRM or not, if I am so inclined as to pirate something of theirs, I will have the ability to do so within several weeks of its release. The pirates are not going to lose because they are unable to crack the product. If the pirates ever lose, it will be because developers create a relationship with their user base that makes users want to support that company.
 

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I stopped buying Ubisoft because of the DRM even though so many of their games look great.
The DRM probably wouldn't bother me too much but I won't support it.