One of 'em "Devil's Bargain" hypotheticals...

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Callate

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A genie would like to have a word with you.

He would like to make you an offer. Accept, and tomorrow you're going to be tapped by the car of a little-known billionare. Eager to avoid insurance difficulties or press, he will give you $10 million U.S. in exchange for your waiver (about 7.5 million euros, 6.5 million pounds sterling, and very roughly an equivalent amount of Canadian or Australian dollars). No, you're not negotiating more, or blackmailing the billionare, or hiring an "ambulance chaser" to get more in court; this is a ding on your bumper or a bruise on your shin that will be hardly noticable tomorrow. But he will put his accountants on keeping the payment tax-free and strictly on the up-and-up.

For reference, if you live another 60 years and neither invest nor squander than money, but cut it into equal yearly payments, that's a bit more than $165,000 a year, and no accounting for you continuing to work or investing judiciously.

Sounds good. What's the catch?

In 120 years, there will be a massive nuclear weapons exchange. Best case scenario, between 1/3 and 1/2 the human population will die, and most of the land those people were occupying will be inhospitable to life for at least three generations; worst case scenario, Nuclear Winter, Game Over.

As things presently stand, something you're going to do will prevent this from occurring. The moment you accept that money, you've diverted from the path that would prevent the nuclear change; no going back.

Now to be clear, this is most likely a "butterfly flapping its wings in Tokyo" event. You're not going to be appointed ambassador to China, or win the Nobel Prize for inventing cheap, clean, infinitely renewable energy. More like, something you say on an online forum causes a hacker in the Netherlands to wait a day before taking a World of Warcraft server offline, causing a student in South Korea to study and thus pass a test, leading to a career in politics. You aren't going to be remembered as the savior of the world.

In 120 years, you won't be alive. Quite likely, neither will your children, or your grandchildren.

Would you accept the genie's offer?

Alternative A: Instead of 120 years from now, the nuclear exchange occurs one day before you would have normally died. The genie plays straight; there's no "I would have pushed you in front of a bus tomorrow"; whether you would have had a heart attack in thirty years or slipped in the shower next week, it happens the day before. But you're still going to get to see, and probably be killed by, the results of your decision, albeit only a short time before your "natural" death. Same decision?

Alternative B: If you accept the money, there's only a 50% chance this nuclear apocalypse will occur. Care to gamble?

Alternative C: If you refuse the money, there's only a 50% chance your abstaining from it will prevent the fiery doom. Is it still worth it?
 

The Minstrel Knight

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Hmm, hmm. You make this tempting. On one hand, I don't believe civillization is going to last longer than 120 years,so if that were TRUE, taking the money would be no skin off my back. But I don't know that we wont last that long. It's a big gamble, one that I'm not terribly comfortable taking. Keep yer damn money!
 

CODE-D

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I dont care about these questions so I'll take it, I dont care....fuck the world I have money.
At least Ill die rich....maybe.
 

JaceArveduin

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I'd be more like "Okay Mr. Devil, I'll give you my soul, we cut it down to 7.5 mil, and everyone lives happily ever after, k?"

Cause he can't be that bad of a guy, after all ;) Though I did notice you changed it to genie later on. In that case I'd ask him why I don't have three wishes instead. Then I'd tell him in a gesture of good faith that my first would be for him to be released after my third he's released. Then I'd wish for some fun stuff :D
 

SomeLameStuff

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I would, I mean, why not? There isn't much of a drawback on this one from where I'm standing. I either die naturally, or die a day before my natural death.
 

Craorach

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I'd not accept the money.. not because I particularly care about the world in 120 years, but because I don't want that much money.
 

Grospoliner

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I would report to the nearest psychiatric hospital as I am obviously having a psychotic break which is inducing hallucinations of semi-transparent disembodied floating torsos. I would also piss myself.
 

Callate

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JaceArveduin said:
I'd be more like "Okay Mr. Devil, I'll give you my soul, we cut it down to 7.5 mil, and everyone lives happily ever after, k?"

Cause he can't be that bad of a guy, after all ;) Though I did notice you changed it to genie later on. In that case I'd ask him why I don't have three wishes instead. Then I'd tell him in a gesture of good faith that my first would be for him to be released after my third he's released. Then I'd wish for some fun stuff :D
Well, though it's still a "devil's bargain" in nature, I decided early on it should be a genie instead. The existence of the Devil inherently suggests the existence of an afterlife, which changes the equation significantly. I prefer to leave such variables to the answerer's beliefs.
 

Arcanist

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In both the primary scenario and in variant A and B, I'd turn it down in a heartbeat. My own self-interest does not outweigh the well-being of billions of lives. Even if there's only a 50% chance of this happening, it's not worth the risk.

In variant C, however, the rational choice is to take the money. If there's a 50% chance either way, why not take the option that also benefits me?
 

.No.

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I would take the money, and warn people about impending doom.
Or build a vault, so chosen people and myself can survive.
And why is alternative B the exact same thing as alternative A, except you get no money?
 

Callate

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.No. said:
I would take the money, and warn people about impending doom.
Or build a vault, so chosen people and myself can survive.
And why is alternative B the exact same thing as alternative A, except you get no money?
In alternative B, if you accept the money, there's a 50% chance the nuclear exchange will occur. In alternative A, if you accept the money, there's a 100% chance the exchange will occur.
 

.No.

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Callate said:
.No. said:
I would take the money, and warn people about impending doom.
Or build a vault, so chosen people and myself can survive.
And why is alternative B the exact same thing as alternative A, except you get no money?
In alternative B, if you accept the money, there's a 50% chance the nuclear exchange will occur. In alternative A, if you accept the money, there's a 100% chance the exchange will occur.
Oh right. I meant B and C.
 

Laser Priest

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I get money and the pleasure of knowing that I set forth events leading to the destruction of the world?

Surely there must be a downside! This seems too good to be true!
 

Escapefromwhatever

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In every scenario, I deny the money. I've got enough to be comfortable and, quite frankly, more money wouldn't necessarily make me happy, just sure that I will never be strapped for it. I'm affectionate for this place- I don't want to kill it. Besides, maybe modern medical technology will help me live long enough that actually being involved in the nuclear war could be a possibility. I mean, technology advanced verrrrrry quickly over the 20th century, who's to say it won't do the same in the 21st?
 

SilentCom

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I will save the world... through cleansing nuclear flame! Err I mean that would be bad.

Actually I wouldn't take the money knowing it would be at the cost of billions of lives and utter destruction of pretty much everything. Taking the money is like being the Hitler of Greed.