One thing I'm worried about, when it comes to the new "DmC"...

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KaosuHamoni

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And its not Dante's Redesign. I don't care about that. It shows him when he was a teenager, before he unlocked the full potential of his powers. As long as its explained, I'm fine with it.

The thing is, I am an avid fanboy of Devil May Cry, and I'm worried that Ninja Theory won't keep to the gameplay style that makes DMC so great in my eyes. I have played both Heavenly Sword and Enslaved, and I beat the former effortlessly, but they are in no way comparable to DMC. They feel and play completely differently, and don't get me wrong, I loved them, but I don't want "DmC" to be a remade skin of Heavenly Sword, with a different story and more badass characters. I want it to feel, play and look like the Devil May Cry games I know and oh-so-love, and, Ninja Theory, If you kill this series for me, I will hate you. Period.
 

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Agreed.

The gameplay in DMC3 is the pinnacle of action gaming in my opinion, I didn't even get the same vibe n DMC4.

They've already changed the characters, hopefully they won't change the gameplay as well...
 

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I was under the impression that Heavenly Sword's gameplay was different to that of Enslaved's, so why do you think they can only implement one very specific style of fighting system?
 

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Woodsey said:
I was under the impression that Heavenly Sword's gameplay was different to that of Enslaved's, so why do you think they can only implement one very specific style of fighting system?
They are different but they are both VERY simplistic with a very low learning curve. I highly doubt DMC's combat is going to be any good. It's going to be the same easy, almost automatic shit that NT's other two games feature.
Ninja Theory on Bayonetta said:
?Personally, I don?t. I love the game. I think it?s awesome. It?s taken everything ? it?s just gone to a total extreme. But in terms of, ?Do I think it?s cool?? No, not at all. I think it?s caricatured and over-the-top and very ?Japanesey,? and for that absurd style it does that really well, but that?s not what I want.?
 

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TOGSolid said:
Woodsey said:
I was under the impression that Heavenly Sword's gameplay was different to that of Enslaved's, so why do you think they can only implement one very specific style of fighting system?
They are different but they are both VERY simplistic with a very low learning curve. I highly doubt DMC's combat is going to be any good. It's going to be the same easy, almost automatic shit that NT's other two games feature.
Or, you know, you give it a chance at least until you see some proper gameplay footage and not base your opinion of a game on two other games that probably aren't aimed at the same target audience.
 

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DMC, the action game that does all the cool stuff before you play it.

Yeah I'm not the worlds biggest fan, I've always put myself in the GOW camp, but in terms of changing the series.

'As the operator of a coin powered cannon might say to a retreating army, "you should never fear change"' - Yahtzee
 

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Woodsey said:
TOGSolid said:
Woodsey said:
I was under the impression that Heavenly Sword's gameplay was different to that of Enslaved's, so why do you think they can only implement one very specific style of fighting system?
They are different but they are both VERY simplistic with a very low learning curve. I highly doubt DMC's combat is going to be any good. It's going to be the same easy, almost automatic shit that NT's other two games feature.
Or, you know, you give it a chance at least until you see some proper gameplay footage and not base your opinion of a game on two other games that probably aren't aimed at the same target audience.
I ought to start a betting pool on DMC ending up being just more Ninja Theory garbage. I'd love to make some good cash off of everyone who keeps saying "oh just give it a chance."
 

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TOGSolid said:
Woodsey said:
TOGSolid said:
Woodsey said:
I was under the impression that Heavenly Sword's gameplay was different to that of Enslaved's, so why do you think they can only implement one very specific style of fighting system?
They are different but they are both VERY simplistic with a very low learning curve. I highly doubt DMC's combat is going to be any good. It's going to be the same easy, almost automatic shit that NT's other two games feature.
Or, you know, you give it a chance at least until you see some proper gameplay footage and not base your opinion of a game on two other games that probably aren't aimed at the same target audience.
I ought to start a betting pool on DMC ending up being just more Ninja Theory garbage. I'd love to make some good cash off of everyone who keeps saying "oh just give it a chance."
That's actually a good idea. God forbid someone judges a company's future endeavors by its most recent (in this case, only) accomplishments. It's so logical, it's thoroughly unreasonable.

I hate the redesign with a fiery passion, but I'm just as concerned about the gameplay. Devil May Cry has been about picking apart your enemies in over-the-top, excessively flambuoyant ways, and if Team Ninja's commentary on Bayonetta is any example, they don't plan on doing over-the-top. This, combined with their track record and the GRIMDARK look of the trailer, gives me the feeling that combat is going to be very rage-oriented, i.e. like God of War.
 

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-Zen- said:
TOGSolid said:
Woodsey said:
TOGSolid said:
Woodsey said:
I was under the impression that Heavenly Sword's gameplay was different to that of Enslaved's, so why do you think they can only implement one very specific style of fighting system?
They are different but they are both VERY simplistic with a very low learning curve. I highly doubt DMC's combat is going to be any good. It's going to be the same easy, almost automatic shit that NT's other two games feature.
Or, you know, you give it a chance at least until you see some proper gameplay footage and not base your opinion of a game on two other games that probably aren't aimed at the same target audience.
I ought to start a betting pool on DMC ending up being just more Ninja Theory garbage. I'd love to make some good cash off of everyone who keeps saying "oh just give it a chance."
That's actually a good idea. God forbid someone judges a company's future endeavors by its most recent (in this case, only) accomplishments. It's so logical, it's thoroughly unreasonable.

I hate the redesign with a fiery passion, but I'm just as concerned about the gameplay. Devil May Cry has been about picking apart your enemies in over-the-top, excessively flambuoyant ways, and if Team Ninja's commentary on Bayonetta is any example, they don't plan on doing over-the-top. This, combined with their track record and the GRIMDARK look of the trailer, gives me the feeling that combat is going to be very rage-oriented, i.e. like God of War.
You mean Ninja Theory. If this was Team Ninja at least we would be assured that the combat would be good in all likelihood and on the same level as previous DMC games if not better.
 

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shadow skill said:
You mean Ninja Theory. If this was Team Ninja at least we would be assured that the combat would be good in all likelihood and on the same level as previous DMC games if not better.
Oh god yes... that's really who Capcom should have given DMC to for the redesign. *drools a little*
 

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shadow skill said:
-Zen- said:
TOGSolid said:
Woodsey said:
TOGSolid said:
Woodsey said:
I was under the impression that Heavenly Sword's gameplay was different to that of Enslaved's, so why do you think they can only implement one very specific style of fighting system?
They are different but they are both VERY simplistic with a very low learning curve. I highly doubt DMC's combat is going to be any good. It's going to be the same easy, almost automatic shit that NT's other two games feature.
Or, you know, you give it a chance at least until you see some proper gameplay footage and not base your opinion of a game on two other games that probably aren't aimed at the same target audience.
I ought to start a betting pool on DMC ending up being just more Ninja Theory garbage. I'd love to make some good cash off of everyone who keeps saying "oh just give it a chance."
That's actually a good idea. God forbid someone judges a company's future endeavors by its most recent (in this case, only) accomplishments. It's so logical, it's thoroughly unreasonable.

I hate the redesign with a fiery passion, but I'm just as concerned about the gameplay. Devil May Cry has been about picking apart your enemies in over-the-top, excessively flambuoyant ways, and if Team Ninja's commentary on Bayonetta is any example, they don't plan on doing over-the-top. This, combined with their track record and the GRIMDARK look of the trailer, gives me the feeling that combat is going to be very rage-oriented, i.e. like God of War.
You mean Ninja Theory. If this was Team Ninja at least we would be assured that the combat would be good in all likelihood and on the same level as previous DMC games if not better.
*facepalm*

Good catch. I suppose it was high time I made that mistake. At least I didn't confuse their back-catalogues up as well as their names.

As for the idea of Team Ninja making a Devil May Cry, I'm not so sure. Even though Itagaki isn't with the company anymore, the man behind Ninja Gaiden, a man who expressed an exquisite dislike of Devil May Cry, Team Ninja doesn't quite seem right for the job. Far more suited than Ninja Theory, certainly, but not quite the optimal choice.

It's just that the combat of both games is so dramatically different. Devil May Cry is about excess and flash, and Ninja Gaiden is about cold, hard efficiency. Dante plays with his opponents, and it shows in the gameplay. Ryu just fucking murders them.

Now, I have no doubt Team Ninja could make a great game out of the Devil May Cry mythos. I just don't think they could make a great Devil May Cry game. Then again, I could be wrong. Unlike Ninja Theory, Team Ninja has shown incredible ability to make a great action game.
 

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What theres a new DMC? Na you guys must just be reading rumors there no new game in the series announced. Am still waiting for DMC5 capcom. lol silly people thinking theres a new dmc and made by ninja theory!? Only if capcom was drunk and high would they ever do that.
 

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TOGSolid said:
Woodsey said:
TOGSolid said:
Woodsey said:
I was under the impression that Heavenly Sword's gameplay was different to that of Enslaved's, so why do you think they can only implement one very specific style of fighting system?
They are different but they are both VERY simplistic with a very low learning curve. I highly doubt DMC's combat is going to be any good. It's going to be the same easy, almost automatic shit that NT's other two games feature.
Or, you know, you give it a chance at least until you see some proper gameplay footage and not base your opinion of a game on two other games that probably aren't aimed at the same target audience.
I ought to start a betting pool on DMC ending up being just more Ninja Theory garbage. I'd love to make some good cash off of everyone who keeps saying "oh just give it a chance."
What are you, 5? You've seen nothing of the game but a trailer. You may very well be right, so you may as well hold back a bit until we actually see some proper stuff.

No one gives a shit about the old "I told you so" past the age of about 12.

Enslaved was basically a spiritual successor to The Sands of Time though, which makes it full of win (even though it wasn't as good).
 

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Concern that this game will be garbage is justified. In fact it's looking to be the most valid prediction. Bad aesthetics, downgraded engine, a developer known for making a couple of shitty games and from the looks of the trailer they will even incorporate some bad GoW mechanics. Expect to see a whip weapon, light/heavy attacks and quick timer events polluting the game.

The DMC games have all been good except for one really bad one and Ninja Theory has yet to make a single good game.

Mini-ninjas: 've never played but by all accounts it's bad.

Heavenly Sword: Braindead combat system with boring design in all areas and horrible gimmicky mini-games.

Enslaved: autopilot platforming and even worse combat.

At this point I think I would just want to see NT wiped from the face of the earth.
 

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I don't know, for once DMC might have a decent story instead of utter putrid garbage which happens to be the name of the guy who wrote the other 4 games, that and Bayonetta. I mean say what you want about Ninja Theory, they know how the write a story. But I'll admit the gameplay just won't be the same...=/

But then again I'm also a GoW guy.