Online Fighting

[Lemon Of Life]

Hey all, I've been exploring lots of new genres and having a ton of fun (RTS games with Starcraft 2 and Civ V, racing games with GRiD and Burnout Paradise and MINECRAFT). I was thinking, I've never really played a 2D fighting game.

First of all, I'm looking for a solid multiplayer experience. I expect to get bored playing single player with this kind of game, and I'm pretty competitive, so I think it would really appeal to me.

I want a game where you can't win by button mashing

I also want one that has a considerable amount of depth and complexity, I'm really looking to get some mileage out of this.

It would also be cool if there are still alot of people playing this game online.

I also would like you guys to tell me if it is required to buy a fight stick/pad to get proficient (good enough to win online).

The best game I can think of right now is SSFIV, but I'd like your opinions on the matter.

Thanks!

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

There's a fighting game you can win by button mashing? The only of those I know of its Smash Bros...

You can get lucky, but 99% of the time, the player who doesn't mutton bash wins.

I'm assuming you mean on PC, right?

Well, I hear Blazblue finally came out for PC. Can anyone confirm that?

 

[Lemon Of Life]

There's a fighting game you can win by button mashing? The only of those I know of its Smash Bros...

You can get lucky, but 99% of the time, the player who doesn't mutton bash wins.

I'm assuming you mean on PC, right?

Well, I hear Blazblue finally came out for PC. Can anyone confirm that?

Thanks for the reply, and as I said, I have no prior experience of any figthing game except round my friends, where all we use to do was button mash, so I honestly have no idea what to expect.

I mean either the PC or Xbox 360, and I have never heard of Blazblue

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

I mean either the PC or Xbox 360, and I have never heard of Blazblue

Then get the 360 version of Blazblue: Continuum Shift. A great Tutorial mode that teaches you all about basics like "quarter circles" and simple combos. The knowledge you learn there will even transfer to some other fighting game.

And you can use Beginner Mode if you can't pull of the moves, and still have an element of strategy with it.

It real is a fantastic tutorial mode!

Not "Calamity Trigger". You want "Continuum Shift". CT didn't have the tutorial. The game retails for $40, too.

 

[Lemon Of Life]

I mean either the PC or Xbox 360, and I have never heard of Blazblue

Then get the 360 version of Blazblue: Continuum Shift. A great Tutorial mode that teaches you all about basics like "quarter circles" and simple combos. The knowledge you learn there will even transfer to some other fighting game.

And you can use Beginner Mode if you can't pull of the moves, and still have an element of strategy with it.

It real is a fantastic tutorial mode!

Not "Calamity Trigger". You want "Continuum Shift". CT didn't have the tutorial. The game retails for $40, too.

Is a pad or stick required to enjoy it? I hear bad things about the 360 controller with fighting games. And what makes it better than SSFIV (sorry about the barrage of questions, I just want to get the right game).

 

[Physics Engine]

I'd stay away from Soul Calibur 4 if you don't like button mashing. It's about the only game I can think of that you can win that way in.

BlazBlue is by the makers of Guilty Gear series and is pretty good, but the character roster is limited compared to a SSFIV or SFIIHDRemix. Hand drawn HD sprites @ 60fps are eyeball sex, very, very pretty game (BlazBlue, that is).

Tekken 6 is okay I guess, it's not my cup of tea.

If you're nostalgic for the 90's then the new Mortal Kombat reboot is in development and it looks pretty sweet so far.

I personally prefer the Street Fighter series myself, but then again I used to pump quarters into those things when you could actually find an arcade cabinet, so I'm kind of biased in that regard. SuperSFIV can be had for a decent price nowadays (It was $45 new for me) and SFIIHDRemix is downloadable from Live for (I think 1200 points) and if you like SFII then you'll like HDRemix though 90's animation is pretty chunky

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

Is a pad or stick required to enjoy it? I hear bad things about the 360 controller with fighting games. And what makes it better than SSFIV (sorry about the barrage of questions, I just want to get the right game).

The in-depth tutorial mode makes it better than SSFIV, for one. The sense of humor it has in it's story mode (each character has a rather funny 10-20 minute "joke ending", and the game has a show in the TIPS section of the story mode called "Teach Me, Ms. Litchi!"

You can't go wrong either way. But Blazblue's Tutorial mode is, again, simply fantastic for learning the basics, and teaches you more than enough to get by.


I played it with a controller, and did fine. Fight Pads/Sticks are only really used for SERIOUS BUSINESS competitive play.

 

[Jamiemitsu]

Yeah, Blazblue seems perfect. I just got it myself a few weeks ago, and I can assure you you wont be disappointed. The online is pretty fun, though you should probably get to grips with the game first, as its full of experts. Oh, and not one character is a clone of another; some are easy to use, others take weeks of practice, so basically, you can even spend loads of time in training mode, and still just have fun making up your own combos and such.

 

[Lemon Of Life]

Is a pad or stick required to enjoy it? I hear bad things about the 360 controller with fighting games. And what makes it better than SSFIV (sorry about the barrage of questions, I just want to get the right game).

The in-depth tutorial mode makes it better than SSFIV, for one. The sense of humor it has in it's story mode (each character has a rather funny 10-20 minute "joke ending", and the game has a show in the TIPS section of the story mode called "Teach Me, Ms. Litchi!"

You can't go wrong either way. But Blazblue's Tutorial mode is, again, simply fantastic for learning the basics, and teaches you more than enough to get by.


I played it with a controller, and did fine. Fight Pads/Sticks are only really used for SERIOUS BUSINESS competitive play.

Having looked at a few videos, it indeed seems perfect. I think I may pick this up in the next week or so, thanks.

 

[Durxom]

I mean either the PC or Xbox 360, and I have never heard of Blazblue

Then get the 360 version of Blazblue: Continuum Shift. A great Tutorial mode that teaches you all about basics like "quarter circles" and simple combos. The knowledge you learn there will even transfer to some other fighting game.

And you can use Beginner Mode if you can't pull of the moves, and still have an element of strategy with it.

It real is a fantastic tutorial mode!

Not "Calamity Trigger". You want "Continuum Shift". CT didn't have the tutorial. The game retails for $40, too.

Is a pad or stick required to enjoy it? I hear bad things about the 360 controller with fighting games. And what makes it better than SSFIV (sorry about the barrage of questions, I just want to get the right game).

Ya, Super Street Fighter 4 or Blazblue would probably be your best choice, and it doesn't really matter what controller you get, but if I were you, if your local game store has them, and you like your normal Xbox controller, get a SF4 fight pad, it sets out all the buttons for easy use for pretty much all fighting games.

Spoiler: SF4 360 Fightpad

Also, either one depends on how you prefer to play, SSF4 has more characters(though some are clones...), and is more defensive based, but there is a lot more gaming support, trials, and help for it, and more strategy..though this is just my opinion.

Blazblue is more high-paced and story-based, but has less characters, but also has a rocking soundtrack, but can get complicated like its older brother, Guilty Gear.

SSF4 Gameplay:
(things at the side are made to show inputs in replays, but u can just ignore them)

Blazblue Gameplay:

 

[Flying-Emu]

Blazblue is your best bet, aside from SFIV, which is obligatory.

Seriously... get SFIV; it's better for new players, because Blazblue is absolutely unforgiving.

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

Is a pad or stick required to enjoy it? I hear bad things about the 360 controller with fighting games. And what makes it better than SSFIV (sorry about the barrage of questions, I just want to get the right game).

The in-depth tutorial mode makes it better than SSFIV, for one. The sense of humor it has in it's story mode (each character has a rather funny 10-20 minute "joke ending", and the game has a show in the TIPS section of the story mode called "Teach Me, Ms. Litchi!"

You can't go wrong either way. But Blazblue's Tutorial mode is, again, simply fantastic for learning the basics, and teaches you more than enough to get by.


I played it with a controller, and did fine. Fight Pads/Sticks are only really used for SERIOUS BUSINESS competitive play.

Having looked at a few videos, it indeed seems perfect. I think I may pick this up in the next week or so, thanks.

Glad to help. I would still get Super Street Fighter IV later on, too. They're both fantastic games. Shame my SSF4 disc broke...Oh, and ignore the later levels of "Challenge" mode in both of them. They teach some basic combos at first, but then turn to crazy advanced stuff rather quickly.

 

[TerranReaper]

>Implying you can be pro at fighting games by button mashing

OT: But ya, SSFIV is a good choice, so is Blazblue, but I haven't played that to say for sure.

 

[-Seraph-]

Well I'll echo the whole SF4 and Blazblue comments, they're both the best fighters out there right now for consoles.

I am more bias towards Blazblue because I LOVED Guilty Gear and in my opinion, BB is more technical and fun than SF4. The combat just feels more fluid and fun, and it's great racking up combos to do huge damage while SF has always felt more of like a poking match.

Don't try to button mash, you may be rather new to the whole fighting game scene, but try your hardest not to button mash; it's a terrible habbit that will lose you too many battles. Really, learning a fighting game is not as hard as people think it is, it's a matter of practice and a willingness to learn the move sets. Yea it can feel like homework, but sometimes you gotta suffer and work for that fun, and that's what fighting games are about.

You don't really need a fight stick to play, and I wouldn't recommend going out and getting one unless you really get into fighting games and play multiple ones. The D-pad is good enough for fighters and I have never had trouble with them...except the 360 one of course. That thing is HORRID for fighting games, but those who don't play them that much may not notice it as much.

Hell you could rent em both and see which one you like more. Just remember, fighting games have a rather unforgiving entry barrier for new comers, so it's "tough up or get out" a lot of the time. So be patient, take some practice, do the tutorials if they have em, and you might end up enjoying it.