Opinions on games dropping Windows XP support.

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Korten12

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omega 616 said:
Korten12 said:
omega 616 said:
I am still running XP but within the next week or so I am getting 7, I hope it's alot like XP. Unfortunately, I know it's going to be nothing like it.

Why do companies assume new = improved, leave everything were it is and nobody will have to learn a whole new system.

(Looking at you facebook, STOP IT! Or I swear to god I will get pissed off and do nothing about it!)
accutaly you will be surprised, I found the transition from XP to 7 a smooth one, it was not that different from XP.
Don't tease me, it's been a very bad week ... if your not teasing, thank you! It will make my week a little better.

I really hope the start menu is nothing like the standard XP one, much prefer classic layout.
No I am quite serious, after I got my new comp with 7, I got back into my normal cycle after a day or so.
 

RUINER ACTUAL

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Good. It's called progress, and that's what technology is about. We can't pretend it's 2003 forever. MOVE ON.
 

Lord_Panzer

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XP hasn't been replaced yet. I still run it. To hell with anyone who wants to drop support.
 

Imperioratorex Caprae

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XP is past its shelf-life. Please people, stop with the necrophelia and let go of XP. If your computer isn't good enough to run Windows 7, then you probably can't run newer games well enough to play them anyway.
There's also a change in the architecture that most programs have yet to really fully utilize and once games start doing that (eg: running in 64-bit only) then you're going to have to upgrade anyway. XP 64bit sucks btw. (and yes I'm aware that there is more to Windows 7 than just 64-bit capability).
It might just be me, but I've done way more reinstalls of XP over the last 3 years than anything else, Vista included and all of them are stupid little faults that Vista and 7 take care of on their own without the need to reinstall.
*shrug* I guess people will cling to their corpses long after they've rotted to bone anyway...
Your loss.
 

ShadowsofHope

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Lord_Panzer said:
XP hasn't been replaced yet. I still run it. To hell with anyone who wants to drop support.
Basically this, for me.

amaranth_dru said:
If you're computer isn't good enough to run Windows 7, then you probably can't run newer games well enough to play them anyway.
Yeah, because, you know.. money and budget clearly doesn't factor into the decision process at all. /eyeroll
 

Pinstar

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I'm still pissed about Windows 98 support being yanked. That was a good system on my ancient laptop!
 

PhunkyPhazon

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I'd rather this didn't happen, or at least not too soon. I plan on upgrading from XP sometime, but it will probably be later then sooner.
 

jamesworkshop

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ShadowsofHope said:
Lord_Panzer said:
XP hasn't been replaced yet. I still run it. To hell with anyone who wants to drop support.
Basically this, for me.

amaranth_dru said:
If you're computer isn't good enough to run Windows 7, then you probably can't run newer games well enough to play them anyway.
Yeah, because, you know.. money and budget clearly doesn't factor into the decision process at all. /eyeroll
XP is only one year younger than the playstation 2
 

IkeGreil29

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Times roll on, software advances. Keeping everything tied back to XP compatible could hamper the future - as many have said, you don't get much backward compatibility with consoles and yet people seem to think that a 9 year old bit of software should still be supported by everyone and everything.

Obviously, that's easy for me to say, having been using 7 for a long while now and loving it - if I was still on XP I would naturally be annoyed that my platform was no longer being supported, but fundamentally I've got a decision to make, just as I did when my comp was no longer being able to run modern games - upgrade or deal with it.

Progress happens, and whether its the graphics card, CPU, more RAM, a completely new machine or a new operating system, part of the basic facts of running a gaming PC is the need to eventually upgrade.

IkeGreil29 said:
Not everyone lives in a first-world country and has the capabilities to update their computer every four years. I know I must seem like a whiny *****, but it's true; I personally am going to have to wait two years before my parents are willing to buy me a new computer. So I'd definitely be pissed about losing XP support.
You're not loosing support, you're just not getting access to some of the newer software. Nothing is getting taken away, but times are moving on. 'Sides, you don't need a particularly special machine to run Win7 (or a lot of money, if you're a student), though you might need a graphics card that can handle Dx10 if your machine missed out on that wave of hardware.
True. What I meant was that I have a really old, really crappy computer. My computer can't even run Civ V leader scenes unless they're in minimum (just static images). Which blows.

I understand your point though. They are by no means meant to lag behind because we are. It just blows that we can't have the same opportunities as everyone else. ^_^
 

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ShadowsofHope said:
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Yeah, because, you know.. money and budget clearly doesn't factor into the decision process at all. /eyeroll
Why hate on it if you can't run the games anyway? Thats how tech works. And plenty of budget parts can still run newer games, my computer itself only cost me about $350 American and I run new games in high quality. Bargain shopping people.
 

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I waited eagerly for three years for Just Cause 2, only for it to slap me across the face by denying XP support. Sure it's bound to happen eventually but for it to happen this soon into 7's lifespan is really low. I've been forced to upgrade for that game, and I'm not happy about it.

At least Win 7 plays older games better than XP did though, at least. Though now I can't play Crimson Skies, one of my all time favourite PC games.
 

dickseverywhere

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wouldn't happen if MS weren't massive cockends and hadn't refused to let DX11 on XP.
so i'll go for my default position of blame it on MS and hate them for it.
 

Jester00

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i'll switch in the next days to win7 because of just cause 2. i'm so sad about it, i love win xp. i grew up with xp.
 

Plazmatic

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Korten12 said:
I made this topic as a sort of companion topic to my (opinions on Windows 7 topic in off-topic disscussion, but this more focuses on this one specific thing.)

So what's your opinions on games dropping Windows XP support.

Well not many games have yet though it seems like in the coming years, less and less games will support XP, such as Battlefield 3, Just Cause 2, and shattered horizon (probably more but I don't know) and so what do you guys think? Is it a bad more or good move?

Imho, its a good thing? Why? Becuase if games keep supporting XP, sure it will have a longer life-span but it is holding back development and so games need to include DX9 support, BF3 will only support DX10/11 most likely then it will be a game that really pushes the limits due to it not being pulled back by the limits of a 10 or so year old OS and DX.
its a dumbass move, I mean, LOOK AT THE VALVE STATS FOR PEOPLE WHO USE XP!!!! I think its over half the people.
 

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XP is pretty damn old now and keeping support would be holding back development so it's really a good thing. But it shouldn't be dropped extensively for another few years so gamers can still catch up and buy Windows 7 (when its a bit cheaper)

Directx9 should still be supported for a few years yet too. A mid-range computer might support Directx10 but it can't fucking handle games smoothly on it. My computer has a 9800GT which still plays everything very well (mostly highest settings in 1920x1080 with no AA for all new games in DX9) and it supports DirectX10, but enabling it causes massive framerate drops on most games which makes me have to put all the settings down onto medium for the sake of playing a game smoothly. Which is stupid when the difference between DX9 and DX10 is very minimal. And a lot of PC gamers still have PC's very similar to mine since not everyone feels the need or sees the point in buying the very latest hardware all the time.

Also, consoles don't use DX10 do they so there's no excuse for console ports like Just Cause 2 dropping support for DX9.
 

ShadowsofHope

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amaranth_dru said:
ShadowsofHope said:
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Yeah, because, you know.. money and budget clearly doesn't factor into the decision process at all. /eyeroll
Why hate on it if you can't run the games anyway? Thats how tech works. And plenty of budget parts can still run newer games, my computer itself only cost me about $350 American and I run new games in high quality. Bargain shopping people.
I don't hate it. I just can't quite afford it yet, with a few other high priced items being bought recently. *Shrug*

My laptop has it, my PC doesn't.
 

Assassin Xaero

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Umm, I don't care much? I use Windows 7 so I don't mind. Probably for the better, and it will eventually happen no matter how many stubborn "I won't leave XP" people are out there...
 

SimuLord

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Supporting XP means games have to operate on the assumption that the player can't use more than 3GB of RAM. With games getting bigger, eventually they're gonna have to move to being full 64-bit applications just because the system requirements have begun to outgrow what the old OS can do.

Yeah, it's a shame to lose out on those old legacy apps (although nothing's stopping someone from writing an XP version of a program like DOSBox as computers get more powerful), but c'mon. XP is a limiting factor on game design progress right now.
 

Nunny

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Microsoft already dropped support for the XP OS, it would be logical to games to do the same.