Opinions You Just Don't Understand

[zehydra]

Personally I don't understand how people view drug taking as morally bad.

I think that, so allow me to explain:
Because it's downright inresponsible behaviour, and drug users burden society massively through crime both directly and indirectly related, as well as healthcare expenses.

That's for instance why drug users tend to deny the inherent risks of drugs (for instance the pothead lobby denying marijuana causes schizofrenia), because otherwise it means they're risking becoming a massive burden, just to get high, and that's extremely selfish and therefore immoral.

When I'm working my arse off for little more than a minimum wage, it just strikes me as downright obscene when someone comes in to complains for hours that his social security benefits is already used up and he still needs to purchase more weed, and that he needs to remain clean in order to get free housing, while I pay a skyrocketing rent for a single room appartment, just before picking up a medication subscription for more pills a week than my entire family pops in a year.

Really, working in a drug user aid centre is truly enlightening about these things.

I don't think making a burden of yourself on society is inherently immoral. It may be a bad idea, but it isn't necessarily "wrong" Not all society is inherently good, or worthy of moral action. Save morality for individuals, not the masses.

 

[zehydra]

Oh, some people are going to take issue with this.

I don't see how anyone could think Skyward Sword is the best Zelda game ever made. I can understand people liking it better then I did, sure...but the BEST ONE? That hand-holding, linear, overly repetitive game somehow outdoes Wind Waker, Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Twilight Princess, Link to the Past, the Oracle games, and okay by this point I'm just naming every game in the franchise except Phantom Hourglass, but you get the point.

Just to be clear I still overall *liked* Skyward Sword, it's not as if I was loathing it or desperate to turn it off but I do think it's by far the weakest of the 3D Zelda's.

I totally agree. I think Skyward Sword was absolutely terrible, with the exception of the level design and weapons design. Everything else about the game sucked.

 

[axlryder]

Unconditional love does not and should not exist. People earn your love like they earn your trust.

I'd like to point out that technically, you're wrong there. Young children form unconditional bonds with others whether or not they show any particular kindness, they just have to be around a lot. This is also where the repulsion towards incest comes from.

For the sake of adding something more to the thread, I don't understand the sheer amount of wilful ignorance that goes into young earth creationism. I can kind of understand religion, although I'm an atheist, but I will never understand people that ignore all evidence in favour of a literal interpretation of the Bible.

I'd think that "being around a lot" is a condition in and of itself. The state of being a young child could also be seen as a formative condition for this love, making it conditional. Of course they might just mean "after the bond has formed, THEN it is unconditional"; However, if the bonds dissipates in some instances, I might argue that something which is inherently or potentially temporary could never really be viewed as "unconditional". I'd also be interested in seeing how these "unconditional" bonds are tested, defined and determined, and if they could really be equated to "love". After all, loving someone and "bonding" with them aren't necessarily the same thing at all. One could also just go the easy route of "one still has to be alive and still possess certain cognitive triggers for the love/bond to exist, making it inherently conditional", but I think that's outside the scope of the term's intended use. Got any sources on this? I'd be interested in reading them.

I think part of the problem is that the term is a bit open ended. Some types of unconditional love, as they're defined, truly are mythical and impossible (such as the pseudo-biblical usage). Others are probably more grounded in human limitations and pragmatic usage. The fact that "love" has about a bajillion different potential meanings doesn't help either. I want to say "he's probably not wrong, but you're probably not either. It's all just semantics"

 

[John Appleby]

I never got in anime the whole: "Dubbed anime is worse than aids or some rubbish" Its fine people are to hissy fitty over anything they think doesn't meet their standard. Pointless in all.

 

[TheNarrator]

For me, that would be...

the whole carbon emissions and climate change scam.

There's only so little we can do to do better, and instead of making mankind work in unison to fix the (severe) issues at hand, we come up with carbon emissions money redistribution schemes and wet dreams of new manbeast cattle. It's a shame.

I respect people that genuinely believe in it and plain don't know better, but I have severe issues with the folks selling us those dreams and fears and renewable energy horrors.

Don't get me wrong, I'm an inventions addict, I think it's our most important purpose in life to overcome issues and problems and get better at everything and I am pretty hyped about, say, supercapacitors. But the same folks selling us man-made climate change and second earth shit are the very same folks that were calling doomsday on the last ice age that didn't happen just until they changed their tune and created the global warming/climate change bandwagon. We got smart folks working on actual scientific progress, but they live shitty lives in the current political climate. Most people aren't even aware that the IPCC predictions were so far off they actually have to consider most of their core stuff to be refuted, but the CO2 moneytrain has already derailed and is still merrily chugging along tearing states, societies and, in the end, mankind a new one. It's a pity.

Climate change is not only measurable, but even without cold hard data you can just logically deduct that it's bound to happen considering the following facts:

- Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas. A greenhouse gas is a gas in the atmosphere that absorbs thermal energy but allows visible light to pass straight through. Thus you get a 'greenhouse' effect: the light energy from the sun gets in regardless of the levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, but the more greenhouse gas in the atmosphere, the more the earth gets insulated: they prevent infrared radiation from escaping and thus less energy leaks out into space. So with higher levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, the total energy (and thus heat) on the planet is higher than on an exact copy of the same planet with lower levels of greenhouse gas.
- Large amounts of carbon on our planet isn't in the atmosphere, it's stocked in oil and coal. By burning these fuels, we release this inactive carbon into the atmosphere, thus raising the greenhouse gas levels of our planet.

Neither of these are really being questioned by anyone, as far as I'm aware, and those two facts are enough to explain global warming, so I don't understand how global warming is still being questioned. I have never met anyone who didn't believe global warming and also understood those two points. Perhaps you don't disagree with the fact that global warming is happening but you don't believe that it has adverse effects? I could perhaps understand that, that's more complex material than this...

 

[Headdrivehardscrew]

Neither of these are really being questioned by anyone, as far as I'm aware, and those two facts are enough to explain global warming, so I don't understand how global warming is still being questioned. I have never met anyone who didn't believe global warming and also understood those two points. Perhaps you don't disagree with the fact that global warming is happening but you don't believe that it has adverse effects? I could perhaps understand that, that's more complex material than this...

Why? Because the whole thing is an ideological clusterfuck, not proper science.

Hey, let's talk after you've read IPCC's AR5. They basically admit that their line of thought just imploded. No biggie, though, I am sure they'll come up with something new.

 

[Dangit2019]

Bronies. Or the whole recent MLP fandom in general.

I guess I'm basically expecting everyone to suddenly go HAHA LOL IRONIC RANDOM in unison at some point.

Don't. While admittedly some people are in it ironically, the good majority have put way too much time into it for it to be a complex joke.

 

[TheNarrator]

Neither of these are really being questioned by anyone, as far as I'm aware, and those two facts are enough to explain global warming, so I don't understand how global warming is still being questioned. I have never met anyone who didn't believe global warming and also understood those two points. Perhaps you don't disagree with the fact that global warming is happening but you don't believe that it has adverse effects? I could perhaps understand that, that's more complex material than this...

Why? Because the whole thing is an ideological clusterfuck, not proper science.

Hey, let's talk after you've read IPCC's AR5. They basically admit that their line of thought just imploded. No biggie, though, I am sure they'll come up with something new.

I currently don't have the time to read that, so could you please clarify what specific part of my post you think is false, and why you think that? I can't really respond to your post in any meaningful way, it's too vague.

 

[Vegosiux]

I will never understand the opinions that smoking is fine from people that understand the health risks, or people that are OK with being obese. Both groups are knowingly cutting their life short by a substantial amount, but are apparently fine with it. What gives?

I suppose some people simply don't think "living as long as possible" is a great goal for life. Then again, we all have little vices.

 

[AgentNein]

...That sushi is anything short of DELICIOUS.

Ha, I was just coming on here to say that last one. I can for what it's worth understand most differing opinions from my own. Even the ones that come from a stupid and ignorant-ass place. But NOT absolutely loving sushi? What the hell man? I'm this certain type of asshole that when I find a new friend who hasn't tried sushi, I need to take them out for sushi. And if they've tried it but didn't like it, it couldn't have been GOOD sushi so I still need to take them out for sushi. If after all this they still don't love sushi I slowly and subtly sabotage our relationship and disown them as friends. That last part's half a joke.

 

[Malty Milk Whistle]

How people can justify Cannabis as "Healthy" when smoked. In fact, the whole 420 culture in general irks me something terrible.
Also that some Americans/ other fairly right wing countries could dislike a scheme such as the NHS, it just seems a logical thing for a developed country to have.
Though my personal memories may have biased this somewhat.

Oh yeah, and that anime is good, subbed or dubbed. Characters are kinda boring and predictable, plots and powers seem to have no limit in length or magnitude, and even my love of all villains has been tarnished by most of those chucklenuts.

Apart from Seto Freaking Kaiba.
Also that the abridged series will almost always bring more entertainment than the original. It always will .

 

[Ernil Menegil]

I always fail to understand why people find it in them to believe that those who are overweight are a burden on healthcare systems, as if they deserve being left in the dust, when the alleviation of pain and suffering, physical and mental, of a human being is the very objective of a universal healthcare system, and as if they do not pay the taxes that are used for the system's funding.

Fat shaming is ignoble on too many levels for me to even begin describing. I am entirely convinced it is a form of prejudice that does absolutely nothing but psychological damage to people who either suffer from it already and are obese as a result, or to people whose personal lives and choices should not be held in contempt. This phobia on fat people, as if they are the next big scourge of society after homosexuality, does not exactly defy comprehension; I understand it quite well enough, it is, more often than not, a projection of personal insecurity and resulted from deep-seeted social indoctrination. It does, however, defy tolerance. Mightily so.

 

[Quiet Stranger]

I'm going try to word this as best as I can so don't hate me too much if I come off as a bigot or something. It's kind of religiousy (my opinion) and I apologize.

Today in class we were talking about blood transfusions and how some religions don't believe in it. There was that story in Australia about a family whose child REALLY needed a blood transfusion or they would die and the courts stepped in to deal with it.

Now my opinion is, (before I start, if you have something you believe in then more power to you) if your belief system or whatever you believe in keeps you from reaching your full potential as a human being (Read Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs) or affects you so much that it hurts you in the long run should you really follow it?

There's a sign outside a local church (heh) that says "Human life is a gift, protect it" that is so true especially for this. If you have a child that is in desperate need of something or they will die without it and your belief system tell you they can't have it, should you really even believe in it? I'm sure it is hard on the parents in a religion as Jehovah's Witnesses where they can't have blood transfusions but if letting their child die and seeing them die really hurts them so much, shouldn't they just say fuck the belief? It's a human life, it is SO important! Yes they might go to "hell" if they have the blood transfusion but even without it they'll probably still go there.

SO I guess my opinion is, if a belief affects you so much to the point where it can be VERY negative believing in it, why would you even bother?

 

[themind]

Evolution denial.

There are entire libraries dedicated to the evolution of life on the planet, and the systematic denial of it is an opinion that staggers my sensibility. It is in the same vein as denying the sky is blue, grass is green, et cetera. I don't want to imply I am against on religious grounds, although I do feel creationism is another opinion impossible to reconcile with. The most baseless argument used to defend such an undefendable position is that "evolution is just a theory". Well, gravity is also just a theory, and before the advent of satellites and space exploration the "earth was round" was just a theory.

Evolution is real, and the idea that it isn't is completely absurd. How, when, where, and why are all open to debate, but multi-cellular, complex organisms did not inhabit this planet when it was first forming. It didn't even have an oxygen atmosphere for the first several hundred million years. How life began is, again, open to debate, but it began as single-celled organisms, most likely a proto-form of bacteria that lived in a methane rich environment, and from that the building blocks of life began.

Anyone who denies evolution I look at the same way as someone who would propose the earth is flat or the moon is made of cheese. It is preposterous to anyone with even a thimble full of common sense or appreciation for life, biology, and science.

 

[Judgement101]

(Such and such game) is better than (such and such game)
IE: Halo is better than CoD or Skyrim is better than Dragon's Dogma

 

[yunabomb]

Random opinion that no one cares about coming through:

Spoiler

I don't understand how people can like Aly Raisman's gymnastics.

Maybe people don't notice her terrible form at first, but it's so obvious when you see the slow motion replays.

Four year fans (sigh).

 

[GamingAwesome1]

Bronies. Or the whole recent MLP fandom in general.

I guess I'm basically expecting everyone to suddenly go HAHA LOL IRONIC RANDOM in unison at some point.

It's an okay show with some decent writing, world-building and apparently catchy songs although I personally can't stand any of them, what's there to get?