Organ Donor i have a issue with it?

[Superior Mind]

Identified donor or not your next of kin get the final call. Having 'donor' on an ID card is just a way that the deceased can inform their next of kin of their wishes.

Remember: For you to be a candidate as a donor you have to die in hospital - generally of a brain injury as it doesn't damage other organs. That's why doctors like motorcyclists.

Donor waiting lists are ridiculously strict by the way. Things like livers and heart valves and lungs and whatnot often go to people who have abused their own, that's just the way of the world. Things are taken on a case-by-case basis though and if somone fails to prove themselves as worthy they get skipped over. Vital organs that can be donated are in incredibly short supply and in general doctors are very careful to make damn sure they're not wasted.

 

[Angry Camel]

I really do sympathise with your point. Some Australian woman (the deatails are hazy) who was on heroin got some new organs, and she went straight back to heroin again. If your going to throw away another chance at life like that, well, I'd be very hard pressed to donate to her.

The only way I see you getting around this is to find specific people to donate to.

One point to consider, though, is that maybe the person who destroyed their body has had a problem that wasn't their fault. he heroin woman may have gotten addicted young. A smoker may have been raised in a community of smokers. These are things you've got to consider.

 

[cerealnmuffin]

If I was an organ donor, would they use my body for science testing or have med students practice on it? (I can imagine them snickering since I'm TG). I remember reading a book about what happens to put whose bodies become test subjects and the last thing I want to do is be rotting on some body farm or testing land mines. When I got my license renewed, I removed the organ donor portion so... would my organs go to someone who needs a transplant only if I put it back on there? Or is my body basically up for grabs if I did?

 

[fletch_talon]

Last I checked, smokers and drinkers get sent to the bottom (if not removed completely) from transplant lists until they can prove they won't fuck them up again.

 

[Griffolion]

I don't mean to sound self-righteous or anything, but if my donating organs after death can save someone else's life, then I don't mind. Regardless of the person and if their disease is self-inflicted or not. Organ donation after death saves lives ('deserving' or 'undeserving') at no cost to yourself because, you know, you're dead.

Besides I trust that in a situation where a dying child or a 60 year old chain smoker and drinker are in need of one of my organs, whoever decides gets the organ makes the right decision.

 

[Kathinka]

here in the czech republic EVERYONE is an organ donor. you have to fill out a non-donor-card to carry arround if you do NOT want your organs to be donated xD a good system i think, since a lot of people are not donating only because of the paperwork.

suck on that, organ-hogs!

 

[tahrey]

Well let's think ...

They can only give your spare parts to someone who's a suitable genetic match. So, if the only person on the lung transplant waiting list that matches your profile on the day you croak is an ex smoker who only learned the dangers of their habit too late, your potential donation is wasted.

And, they're still a person. Still someone's child, parent, partner, etc. Maybe they made some mistakes regarding their health, but worthy of a death sentence? Nah. Come on.

Or just tick the box to opt out altogether.

 

[Sandytimeman]

Note: i have nothing against it i think Organ Donor's are great people i just have a issue with it.

Now i had to get Photo ID so i can go out on my 18th and i saw 'do you want to be a Organ Donar?' [its the gist of it]

and i wondered will i be able to make restrictions to who my organs go too. But you can't according to my roommate and i can't really find anything to say, except some stupid thing in which a guy didn't want his organs to go to a Black person. but none the less.

I WOULD give my organs to certain people, BUT I don't want my Lungs to got to a smoker who smoked all his life and is now ill. they can take my organs sure but i don't want it to go to someone who killed there organs with liquor drugs or Smoking. What's to stop them ruining my organs?

So what do you think about Organ Donoring?
Do you agree with me?
Shud there be restrictions on Organ Donoring like make it only family/friends can have organs?

There are restrictions, you can't smoke or drink at all from what I understood.

 

[sexbutler]

A doctor told me a story once of a young teenage couple. The girl had a congenital heart defect of some kind and suddenly fell ill, because her heart had started to fail. The boy asked if he could donate his heart and had the compatibility test done, he was a match. Less than a day later he collapsed and died, having apparently willed himself to death. She got his heart. Darkly romantic ending, etc. Ive often wondered if its possible to bequeath organs like that in your will and testament?

 

[octafish]

SNIP
People who require organ transplants due to self-inflicted habits (smoking, drinking etc) are not put on the transplant list until they have proved that they have kicked their original habit, so that's nothing you need to worry about.
SNIP.

Except Georgie Best, but then again George Best always did things his own way.

 

[TheIronRuler]

A thought crossed my mind...
You're dead, why would you care about who gets your organs as long as he lives?
The tragic thing about this situation is that if you do allow someone to transplant your organs into his body, his body rejects them and the person dies afterwards becaue of your organs!

 

[Trolldor]

You're dead. What the fuck do you need 'em for?

 

[monkey jesus]

They can have whatever they like provided they have my face tattooed on their chests.

 

[blind_dead_mcjones]

i don't have an issue if someone else wants to donate their organs, what i don't like is when some of those people start developing this self righteous, greater than thou attitude and they start being condescending and in some cases even spiteful towards those that don't want to donate their organs

even worse is when calls for switching to mandatory organ doantion are made by some of these people.

 

[Grouchy Imp_v1legacy]

SNIP
People who require organ transplants due to self-inflicted habits (smoking, drinking etc) are not put on the transplant list until they have proved that they have kicked their original habit, so that's nothing you need to worry about.
SNIP.

Except Georgie Best, but then again George Best always did things his own way.

Yes and no (I think). Part of the huge furore surrounding Best at the time was that he'd complied with the minimum de-tox period to get his new liver, but then went straight back on the sauce once he'd got it. Or at least that's what I seem to remember, I could be wrong on that.

 

[SamuelT]

People that harm their own organs usually are usually at the bottom of the list, mate. A chainsmoker won't get another set of lungs unless there's NOBODY on the list who deserves it more. And this line of thinking is precisely why I think no choice donation is a good thing. No one would choose a recovering drug addict over a small child, even though the addict could very well die within a week while the child could hold out for over a year or sumthing.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

SNIP
People who require organ transplants due to self-inflicted habits (smoking, drinking etc) are not put on the transplant list until they have proved that they have kicked their original habit, so that's nothing you need to worry about.
SNIP.

Except Georgie Best, but then again George Best always did things his own way.

To be fair, George Best was not only rich and famous (as if I'd hint that it could affect anything), he scored goals at football for England, therefore he's more important than anyone else in the world, right?

Screw all those people who spent their lives aiding the sick, the poor and the homeless, George dun score some goles! Let's push him to the front of the list, not fair to make him wait just because he didn't seem to understand that whisky for breakfast isn't one of your five portions of fruit n veg a day.

Note I'm not saying he shouldn't have got a transplant, I'm saying he shouldn't have got a rushed one on the NHS, not while there was other non drinkers on the waiting list.

I'm a little torn after reading his wiki page, as he seemed to be an utterly reprehensible man, but, I've always tried to stand by the idea that whatever someone does, it shouldn't affect their job, unless it's directly linked, so I'm not going to say he shouldn't have been rich n famous, but he sure didn't deserve the transplant over a non drinker, especially proving it afterwards by continuing to abuse it.

However, I'm happy for any of my bits to go to anyone, I leave it in the doctor's hands to choose what goes where, my only stupid and squeamish decision is I want to keep my eyes. I know it doesn't matter after death, but still, it's my decision in the end. I guess I view it as, they could hollow me out completely and I wouldn't look different, but if the coffin lid falls off, I don't want my family to see me with glass eyes as I lay there.

I'm sure they seal the eyelids shut on the deceased anyway at the undertakers, but I'm just rambling now so I'll stop.

 

[Cali0602]

Do we leave working computer parts in a dead machine when we have another machine that could use and upgrade and a life-extension? Of course not. So why not ensure that all the usable parts of a dead human are put to good use? Are we seriously questioning this? Really?

 

[Vrach]

I'm not sure if you realise how organ donation works. It's not a "hey, we have a guy with a bad lung, let's give him one of this guy's, he's a donor". It's a "ok, this person (you) is pronounced dead, let's harvest all the salvageable organs and give them to the people who need them most ASAP".

First off, organs don't last forever. You can't just put them in a jar and dispense them when your family needs them. They go to the first person available (look up organ transplant lists), there's a very small time window where they're usable.

Second, I'm not sure about smokers (imagine it's the same), but alcoholics don't get your liver. There's an exclusion list and alcoholism and similar stuff are definitely there, organs are given to the people which are perceived as those who will make good use of them. Not sure on the specifics, but when you're on the transplant list itself for a liver, you can't so much as have a drink, at least in the US.

 

[Caligulove]

Well there's only so much that you can donate- plus depends on the health of your own organs, the circumstances of your death that affect your organs and your health before the event of your death. But then there's also the Organ Donor list. If you're really concerned about what's going to happen to your organs if you were to die- then do some research on it.

Controversial subject and you can argue that no one really wins or sometimes some injustice from loopholes or whatever it might be. But obviously, habitual smokers, patients with lung disease or other patients with renal failure and dialysis would be placed fairly low on the donor list for a lung or kidney, respectively- especially if their condition was caused by excessive smoking or alcohol consumption.