Oscar Nominees: Harry Potter and Drive snubbed

[MSfire012]

So the Oscar nominations are reveled and they kind of suck. Here is the full list:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/drive_2011/news/1924361/awards_tour_2012_academy_awards_nominations/

First lets start with the best picture award, Harry Potter got snubbed, I know its a "genre movie", I know that it isn't a serious realistic drama, but Lord of the Rings is a "genre movie" too and you guys know how many Oscars that movie won? And Lord of the Rings isn't much better then Harry potter.
Sorry I don't get why drive was snubbed, I mean it?s a really well made, well acted, serious art house-action movie, why the hell it isn't on the list? Oh wait...art house-ACTION...ahhh of course.
Look at the nominations: The Artist? Hugo? The help? Extremely Loud & Incredibly close? I mean most of the movies there are pretty good (Except the Help and Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close) but The Artist is just Oscar bait and Hugo isn't all that great.
Can someone explain me why people that acted in a mute movie are in the best actor and best supporting actress? And speaking of supporting actor Alan Rickman got snubbed.
Tin Tin isn't of best animated feature; Elite Squad and The Skin I Live in aren't on best foreign movie. And Harry Potter isn't on Best original score.

 

[RJ 17]

Look, I don't know if you've noticed by now - and judging from your OP I'm guessing you haven't - but Hollywood is full of s**t these days. The crap they spew out is absolutely horrible. I won't go so far as to say that Hollywood has an agenda, but they clearly do not go by popularity which is what an award show really is.

I mean come on, Slum Dog Millionaire - a movie that NO ONE had even heard about - won Best Picture the year it came out? Please

They don't care what the public thinks. Like all critics, they just want you to think what they think is correct. But this is coming from a person who hasn't seen a major motion picture in theaters since The Dark Knight. Hollywood is all but dead to me, so I might be a bit bitter and biased on this subject.

 

[Esotera]

If we're talking the last Harry Potter film of the series, I didn't think it was very good. But yeah, those things are political as hell, wouldn't pay that much attention to them.

 

[aegix drakan_v1legacy]

Extremely Loud & Incredibly close

Wait...waitwaitwait...That got nominated for best picture?

I haven't seen the movie, but my younger brother read the book in class...and said it was terrible.

Then I took a look at the book...and I could not get back the third page. The writing style was atrocious (IMO).

And yet, it got nominated for an oscar?! 0_o What the heck?

 

[polymath]

OK, quite a few things to discuss.
Number 1, Harry Potter cannot be nominated for best score because there is no where near enough new material in this years score for it to be considered significantly different from when it was entered after the first film. This is the same reason The Dark Knight didn't get nominated for best score and why most sequels don't get nominated for best score, you're still using the main theme and music from the previous films.

Two, I'm sorry but no matter what way you look at it Lord of the Rings are much better films than Harry Potter. They are better acted, directed, technically superior. You can talk up individual performances in it all you want, the films would never be as successful on their own merits like the Lord of the Rings would have been. Plus the last Harry Potter film does not function as a standalone film so while, yes they could have acknowledged the whole franchise with a nomination, the individual film is pretty much just a third act if you haven't been watching to that point.
And on top of that, each Lord of the Rings film got a Best Picture nomination, it wasn't just a case of snubbing Harry Potter as a genre film, it wasn't at the standard a genre film needs to be able to compete with the admittedly weaker Oscar Bait.

Three, Drive falls under the same sort of category though really it was never going to get a Best Picture nomination, it was divisive enough in critical opinion, the only snub regarding it was Albert Brooks and that can all be pinned on Incredibly Loud and Extremely Close.

Four, Complaining about silent movie acting being nominated is not a valid argument. It is a much more difficult achievement for an actor to convey emotions and the story without dialogue. (Plus most of Ryan Gosling's performance in Drive was more not about the dialogue, his character could have been mute and been as effective.)

Five, If you're going to talk about snubs, you should really acknowledge Shame, which though having a critically acclaimed performance from Michael Fassbender got snubbed because of its content.

 

[Casual Shinji]

The only good Harry Potter movie was the third, everything that came afterward was assembly line mediocrity. Thank God, it got snubbed.

I haven't seen Drive, but seeing as it's an action movie what did you expect?

 

[Casual Shinji]

I haven't seen Drive, but seeing as it's an action movie what did you expect?

Its not really an action movie.

As I've said, I haven't seen it yet, but from what I've heard it's really the performances and the direction which lift it above the typical action genre.

And the Oscar committee never tends to pick up on such subtleties.

 

[Captain Booyah]

My fanboy sense is tingling. Harry Potter? I'm looking at the main categories for the Oscars, and what's been nominated, and there is not one that Harry Potter deserves to be in. It absolutely is not the same quality as most of the other films that have been chosen for Best Picture, and all that's really left after that is Best Score and Best Actor. Most of the soundtrack is recycled from previous movies in the series, and the acting is nowhere near the standard. Does Daniel Radcliffe really deserve to be up there with the likes of Gary Oldman and George Clooney and Jean Dujardin? Seriously, I don't know whether you've ever tried to act out a story without speaking, but it's damn difficult. Think of how hard a basic game of charades can be, and then multiply that by about a hundred. The Artist guy's got more acting talent than most of the main cast of Harry Potter put together. (Excluding people like Alan Rickman, of course.)

And speaking of The Artist, you can't single that out as Oscar bait, because nearly all the movies nominated for Best Picture this year are Oscar bait. Look at The Help (overcoming racism), Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close (kid's dad is killed in the 9/11 attack), and Midnight in Paris (guy travels back in time to 20th century Paris to meet famous writers and artists). Not to mention The Tree of Life and War Horse.

That said, I've never seen Drive, but the Oscars are a pretty political thing. They snub at least something every year. They're not worth being taken too seriously.