Otaku can now get their own virtual 2D waifu!

[Johnny Novgorod]

This is all flavors of sad.

 

[pookie101]

ive seen this movie. the computer gets more and more jealous before finally killing everyone who is a threat to her before finally trying to kill the guy because hes not in love anymore.

thats creepy as fuck messaging him through out the day

 

[RaikuFA]

I already have a wife, she's a hologram.

 

[Satinavian]

On an unrelated note, I do find it weird that almost all virtual assistants are presented as female. I wonder if they'll do a digital manbot too.

Because some really old studie have revealed that both men and women react better to female assistents.

It's not only the sex angle. Many people find the ideas of AIs threatening. Female AIs are seen as less threatening. People seem also less careful about revealing personal information to a female assistent than to a male assistent.

And as always everyone in the industry uses the same market research and doesn't want to risk the second best option only for being different.

Women aren't even expected to do the courting. They don't have to be as impressive, since men aren't that picky. It's no surprise men on average have more sexual partners than women. The average woman can be choosier, without needing to compete as fiercely as beta men do. A man will eventually approach her anyway.

If we are talking only heterosexual activity, the average logically has to be the same. That is simple math. The median might differ though.

Studying courting is some interesting thing. There is indeed the idea that the gender with the active part in courting is always less choosy. But i am not convinced there is enough data on that influence of gender roles yet.

I have so many questions. What makes a man "lesser"? Is it something that can't be solved? What about women who don't get approached? Do they not exist? NO women know perpetual isolation?

Sometimes i ask myself if it is harder today for both genders to find a partner than it was before. Now that in western societies parents are not involved and social events where young men and women are presented to each other like social dances events are not done as often anymore and all the traditional rules of courting are not valid anymore. We have a lot of singles with big problems finding partners.
But then again, we have now dating websites and stuff. Maybe it is not that harder to find someone and we only have more singles because it is easier for women to finance their own household now ?

What is pretty clear is that lonely women and lonely men are also roughly the same number. I don't think the search is significantly easier for women than for men or vice versa.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

Because it's much, much easier for average women to find men than it is for average men to find women. All a woman needs to do is look decent and smile once in a while. The man has to compete with numerous prettier, smarter, funnier, more successful men. Women also tend to be more talkative, so socializing comes easy.

And women don't need to compete with prettier, smarter, funnier, more successful women? Sounds fake but okay.
I mean, I can't speak about Japan, because I know pretty much nothing about the reasons for so many dudes to be socially isolated, but in general, I don't get the idea that men have to compete and women don't.

Women aren't even expected to do the courting. They don't have to be as impressive, since men aren't that picky. It's no surprise men on average have more sexual partners than women. The average woman can be choosier, without needing to compete as fiercely as men do. A man will eventually approach her anyway.

Men on average have more sexual partners... therefore... it's harder for men to find women?

And as for "a man will approach her anyway", what if it's a man she doesn't like? People do have preferences and personalities. It's not just about looking for "a man" or "a woman" (for most people anyway, I hope).

EDIT: Also the idea that women don't do anything to try and find a partner is pretty laughable. There's a reason like 90% of women's magazines are dedicated to "HOW TO FIND AND KEEP A DUDE!", and it's not because we sit around doing our sewing until mother introduces us to a gentleman.

Men on average both have more partners and are having a higher difficulty finding partners because all the partners are had by a smaller subset of them in Japan. specifically, those rich enough to afford it. Women on the other hand have to just be a housekeeper and cute. As hard as those things are, getting a university education and working and stuff is a lot harder.

Being approached at all, even if it is by someone you dislike, is still better than not at all. We are talking about people who have, like, never been aplroached here, ever.


The magazines are about how to make men want to approach you and keep them once they do, they aren't about teaching you to be a carnivore. (yes this is what they call women who hit on men lol) Basically women don't do anything to find a partner but they do things towards themselves being worth finding but if a man doesn't actually go on to seek them it won't work.

 

[McElroy]

What is pretty clear is that lonely women and lonely men are also roughly the same number.

How do you figure this? Nothing to pick on your other musings, but this topic in general is a lot of rumours, anecdotes, and "seems to me". I wouldn't want to leave these things hanging like that.

Being approached at all, even if it is by someone you dislike, is still better than not at all. We are talking about people who have, like, never been approached here, ever.

So that has happened or regularly happens to you or what? Anyway, I really would point at women and tell them to be more active in these situations. Like, in general, because I'm not going to berate my Tinder matches (nowadays I've started to get quite many somehow...) for it - after all, we don't even know each other. It feels like I have to constantly wave at her so she won't forget the whole thing.

Huh, suckered myself back into the thread anyway.

 

[Satinavian]

What is pretty clear is that lonely women and lonely men are also roughly the same number.

How do you figure this? Nothing to pick on your other musings, but this topic in general is a lot of rumours, anecdotes, and "seems to me". I wouldn't want to leave these things hanging like that.

Because the number of man and women is nearly the same. The bumber of heterosexual men and women is also nearly the same, otherwise the number homosexuals would be known to be vastly different. In the societies we are talking about, polygamy is forbidden or at least extremely rare and thus doesn't change the numbers much. So most people in a relationship with a member of the opposite sex have one partner. Which means the number of people without a relationship is going to be also very similar. Yes, there are people with additional secret lovers, but both sexes do that and it is not that common or lasting to significantly change the number of unbound people in favor of one sex.

Now, there could be a vast difference in genders in the question if people without any active relationship are happy that way. But i have not seen anything supporting this idea.

 

[SweetShark]

I really want to see what will happen if you star masturbate in front of your Waifu watching your previous waifus.
Not sure there is a counter-Ai for this of course.

 

[McElroy]

What is pretty clear is that lonely women and lonely men are also roughly the same number.

How do you figure this? Nothing to pick on your other musings, but this topic in general is a lot of rumours, anecdotes, and "seems to me". I wouldn't want to leave these things hanging like that.

Because the number of man and women is nearly the same. The bumber of heterosexual men and women is also nearly the same, otherwise the number homosexuals would be known to be vastly different. In the societies we are talking about, polygamy is forbidden or at least extremely rare and thus doesn't change the numbers much. So most people in a relationship with a member of the opposite sex have one partner. Which means the number of people without a relationship is going to be also very similar. Yes, there are people with additional secret lovers, but both sexes do that and it is not that common or lasting to significantly change the number of unbound people in favor of one sex.

Now, there could be a vast difference in genders in the question if people without any active relationship are happy that way. But i have not seen anything supporting this idea.

Dammit, I read "lonely" even though you obviously meant "single". My bad, I guess.

Personally I do think men are getting more raw deals handed to them in contemporary dating/relationship life, but it's a long-winded discussion with a lot of finger-pointing and a lack of solutions (except "ugh, why won't they just stop!" which I despise). Like, where does one even begin? With long rants and rare Pepes.

 

[SweetShark]

I really want to see what will happen if you star masturbate in front of your Waifu watching your previous waifus.
Not sure there is a counter-Ai for this of course.

"Now detecting rapid physical movement. Jealousy module activated. Why don't you take me out anymore?"

I would preferred something like "BAKA BAKA BAKA BAKA BAKA BAAAAAAAKA!!!!"
Simpler, more realistic [for waifus I mean] and to the point.

 

[sageoftruth]

I am concerned.

Oh it's Japan. Haha. Those wacky Japanese.

Yeah. I don't blame you. This stuff sounds downright insidious, especially considering the fact that it's being produced in the one country with the biggest declining population problem in the civilized world. In that commercial, she (I can call a hologram a she right?) was practically begging him to leave his life behind and spend more time alone with her. If your friends start using them, make sure to get them out of the house on occasion, and secretly switch off their phones.

 

[sageoftruth]

All discomfort aside, I wouldn't mind having an AI that would remember to set my alarms, inform me of any changes in my train schedule, and tell me about the weather without me needing to remember to check them myself. Just don't make it a waifu with dependency issues. I don't want to feel like I'm being neglectful just because I decided to spend time with real people.

 

[stroopwafel]

The commercial made me chuckle a bit but at the same time there is a sadness that is subtle and indirect that I found really endearing. Part of me is like, have we really reached that point in evolution where human affection and intimacy have made way for a talking coffee pot? But I also don't really think bad about someone who enjoys the company of a talking coffee pot over the headaches of dating or the stress of relationships. So if this is what makes some people happy you know?

 

[CaitSeith]

All discomfort aside, I wouldn't mind having an AI that would remember to set my alarms, inform me of any changes in my train schedule, and tell me about the weather without me needing to remember to check them myself. Just don't make it a waifu with dependency issues. I don't want to feel like I'm being neglectful just because I decided to spend time with real people.

"I'm arriving late tonight"

"You never spend time with me anymore "

OT: OMGWTF! That advertisement was borderline creepy. I have to admit, I wouldn't mind having an holographic assistant with simulated personality for my daily home routine. But the moment I start to look forward for its affection and emotional support; I'd consider searching for professional help (a psychiatrist is far more qualified than a simulated waifu).

 

[Eclipse Dragon]

Gravity Falls made an episode about a virtual waifu... it didn't go very well for the characters involved.

Jokes aside, damn that first commercial is depressing as hell. While Japan makes a lot of strange products that can easily be dismissed as "Oh it's Japan haha" this one makes me more concerned for the work, dating and social culture that leads to this.

 

[sageoftruth]

All discomfort aside, I wouldn't mind having an AI that would remember to set my alarms, inform me of any changes in my train schedule, and tell me about the weather with out me needing to remember to check them myself. Just don't make it a waifu with dependency issues. I don't want to feel like I'm being neglectful just because I decided to spend time with real people.

Wouldn't that just be Siri? I mean don't get me wrong I would love a digital Girl Friday and hopefully Siri will one day advance enough to fill that role.

Japan just went and made it weird.

Perhaps. Siri's a feature I haven't really considered taking advantage of yet on my phone. Maybe I'm already just few voice commands away from having my own digital secretary.