"Our wrath will be furious..."

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kinch

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Mmmm... I kinda disagree. I always thought of wrath as an angry reaction to some other event - you could think of it as revenge, but revenge is too straightforward in my way of thinking. The phrase "You shall feel my wrath" best describes this I think - wrath is a noun, even if it is an emotion - and as for the "furious"... it's being used as an adjective here right? Your wrath could be quiet, or deceitful, or violent, or furious... just like a storm can be furious or violent.

tl;dr: wrath doesn't indicate furious anger, just anger (of sorts). Furious is being used as an adjective :)
 

Singing Gremlin

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Qayin said:
Vengeance is already indicative of fury, as provoked punishment is indicative of violence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautology_(rhetoric)

The phrase "Our wrath will be furious" is not incorrect or unpoetic - wrath usually includes fury, but it is redundant and therefore a tautology - you would not say "We will lust with desire" as lust already suggests desire, for example.

So, it sounds kinda cool, but it fails at rhetoric.
Well, this is true, but I still think it kinda makes sense. Maybe it's just my take on the word, but wrath in a more verby sense (or would it be a noun in this case?) could be quite impersonal - like really, really destructive revenge from a chap with a cup of earl grey who just politely asked if they'd fire the jolly great guns please. That's a bad example I know, but I still feel the furious bit is kinda necessary as it confirms that yes, this wrath will be delivered from some who is very, very angry.

Besides, it just sounds better. If it was just "Our wrath'll teach you!" It'd kinda lose something.
 

Johnn Johnston

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I'd prefer it if it said:
We will be very angry with you... and we will write you a letter, telling you how angry we are.
 

John Galt

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Better yet:

The manner in which we act upon our pent up feelings of aggression will be most unpleasant the recipient, ie. you.

Johnn Johnston said:
I'd prefer it if it said:
We will be very angry with you... and we will write you a letter, telling you how angry we are.
Better yet:

The manner in which we act upon our pent up feelings of aggression that we feel were caused by your previous actions will be most unpleasant the recipient, ie. you.
 

Johnn Johnston

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John Galt said:
Better yet:

The manner in which we act upon our pent up feelings of aggression will be most unpleasant the recipient, ie. you.

Johnn Johnston said:
I'd prefer it if it said:
We will be very angry with you... and we will write you a letter, telling you how angry we are.
Better yet:

The manner in which we act upon our pent up feelings of aggression that we feel were caused by your previous actions will be most unpleasant the recipient, ie. you.
Better still: We will be slightly displeased, and we will have to, I mean just have to, retaliate. We normally wouldn't do this, but you have just tipped us over the edge. I...I...I'm so very very angry I cannot speak!
 

Geoffrey42

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Darth Mobius said:
How can something inanimate, and in fact, an idea such as Wrath and Fury, make a meeting to commune with the dead? Doesn't make sense to me...
Doesn't make seance to me neither...

@John Galt: I can't help but feel that you are missing a "to" or a "for" both of your variations.
 

Copter400

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It makes perfect sense, like in that MGS4 trailer where Snake is told he has to challenge his fate and accept his destiny.

Damn, sarcasm doesn't carry over well in text.
 

This Person

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Copter400 said:
It makes perfect sense, like in that MGS4 trailer where Snake is told he has to challenge his fate and accept his destiny.

Damn, sarcasm doesn't carry over well in text.
Don't worry, you're wrong either way, since "wrath" and "furious" aren't synonyms like "destiny" and "fate" are.