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BentNeatly

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You know, I'm sorry but i've gotta admit. I really dislike WoW.

I used to play and i used to try to care and no matter how many of my real friends played it, i couldnt enjoy it. I got to Lvl 40, rogue. And i just stopped playing. I completely lost interest. I realized i just have no emotion towards this game. And all my friends surpassed me in level.

Am i the only one who thinks its overrated, and would love for some other small company to release some competition, or to see WoW lose. Am i the only one who , strangely, wants WoW to get hijacked by a massive hacker cyber gang?

Yes, i said it. Attempt to dissuade me.
 

Souplex

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If you are looking for a better mmo, try cryptic studios. They are a mostly freelance mmo development studio that has just started making their first independant game.
http://www.champions-online.com/
You may know them from City of Heroes/VIllains.
 

Shinkada

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No, you aren't the only one. But hey, I'm not the one paying for a second 9 to 5, so live and let live.

Though the whole game being hacked WOULD be hilarious.
 

mintsauce

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You're not the only one who thinks that, but plenty of people, myself included, are going to disagree.

In my experience, WoW is (was?) one of the most immersive, compulsive and fulfilling games of all time. I don't really play it anymore, but at the time it was unbeatable. Epic scale, a real sense of exploration and adventure, co-operating with real life friends, and a near-constant feeling of achievement as you levelled up and improved your gear.

Of course there's a point where you'll probably stop playing; you hit 60, or 70 when the expansion came out, you have nowhere new to explore, lose interest in improving your gear, and give up. But that only tends to come after hundreds of hours of enjoyment.

Other small companies have released some competition, but the trouble is, you cannot compete with it. It's not for everyone, but ten million subscribers is a hard figure to argue against.
 

poleboy

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How about playing a game YOU like instead of playing whatever your friends tell you to play, then go to a forum and start the same topic for the billionth time? So you don't like WoW. That's great. Then don't play it.
 

Kontar

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Souplex post=9.70536.694585 said:
If you are looking for a better mmo, try cryptic studios. They are a mostly freelance mmo development studio that has just started making their first indipendant game.
http://www.champions-online.com/
Actually, Cryptic made City of Heroes/Villains (one of the best MMO's ever in my opinion, although the lack of end-game killed it).

Or do you mean "independent" because it isn't being published by NCsoft anymore? (or is it? I donno).
 

lenneth

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if you want an online RPG although not MMO try Kingdom Of Loathing (www.kingdomofloathing.com) if you havent already
 

Altorin

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I don't suggest you go back and play a game you don't want to play

and I've quit as well

but the game is built for the highest level of character

playing at level 40 sucks

it gets better for most people at 70
 

SmugFrog

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I really liked WoW. Prior to the expansion, I hit level 60, and was still enjoying playing. One of my biggest complaints was always that for the really good stuff you had to get in large raid groups. I was in a guild that did raids all the time, but with a family, I just didn't have time to devote to the game.

My wife started playing too, so eventually we got a 2nd account. I let continue playing on my main while I started new characters on the 2nd account. She had to stop playing due to pregnancy complications and it was really uncomfortable for her to sit at the computer. About this time, Oblivion came out also - so I started getting into that game. After a month of not touching WoW, my wife wanted to terminate one of the accounts instead of paying for 2 of them. This really bugged me. I had all this time on my main account (with alts), and all the time put into the 2nd account. I couldn't choose - but I definitely wanted to keep my main. Eventually, I just gave it up altogether. I miss it sometimes, but I just don't have the time to put into it.

I tried to go back to Anarchy Online - the free version - but I just didn't have the time to spend with that either. With a 2 year old, a 1 year old, and another kid on the way... I don't think I'll have time for MMORPGs anytime soon. On the plus side, by the time they're all grown up, there should be one hell of an online RPG game out there.

One of my dreams for an online RPG is a world sort of like Oblivion/Morrowind where there are actions that affect the rest of the world. I want a game that isn't just a grind - where you can explore, do what you want, and become an awesome character in your own way. I have a lot of ideas, but I don't know if they'll ever be implemented...

/rant

Sorry about the wall of text. Just had to get all that off my chest. :)
 

Khazoth

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Meh, I'm a fan of World of Warcraft, its better then most any other MMO out there, except for MMO's released by Cryptic. Well... Just City of Heroes/Villains really, Exteel, Lineage, and Guild Wars all blow chunks.

It's easy to get into, its got an addictive lore, and there is plenty to do.
 

SmugFrog

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Nooo! I'm scared to get involved in it because I'll get addicted and won't want to give up my account. One of my WoW friends is trying to get me to check it out.

Maybe if I get bored with Spore...
 

gibboss28

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*sigh*

To those saying it: wow isnt addictive. shut up.

BentNeatly post=9.70536.694579 said:
You know, I'm sorry but i've gotta admit. I really dislike WoW.

I used to play and i used to try to care and no matter how many of my real friends played it, i couldnt enjoy it. I got to Lvl 40, rogue. And i just stopped playing. I completely lost interest. I realized i just have no emotion towards this game. And all my friends surpassed me in level.

Am i the only one who thinks its overrated, and would love for some other small company to release some competition, or to see WoW lose. Am i the only one who , strangely, wants WoW to get hijacked by a massive hacker cyber gang?

Yes, i said it. Attempt to dissuade me.
You dont like WoW... good for you? Your not the only one who thinks its overrated and wants something bad to happen to it. Granted i'm not one of these people but whatever.

And why were you wanting people to dissuade you of your opinion of a game you didnt like? If you dont like it you dont like it thats your call.
 

DeadlyYellow

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SmugFrog post=9.70536.695013 said:
Maybe if I get bored with Spore...
Assuming EA actually lets you play it :/

Altorin post=9.70536.694831 said:
playing at level 40 sucks

it gets better for most people at 70
One of the worst points to make about MMO games. If they're not enjoying the game, they're not going to play to endgame when it 'gets better.'

Meh, doubt there's going to be a competent rival to the WoW throne.
 

SmugFrog

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DeadlyYellow post=9.70536.695037 said:
Assuming EA actually lets you play it :/
What's that supposed to mean? Other than the fact that I'm going to be REALLY pissed off if I get out to sea and can't activate it over the internet first...
 

BentNeatly

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urprobablyright post=9.70536.694629 said:
no disrespect to you but the reason you quit the game is because you started feeling set-aside from your friends and wanted to get some confirmation that they still cared about you. You lost all interest in the game because you initial motivation for being in the game was to be social with your friends who were levels ahead of you.
you wrote this post to diss out WoW because once again you're looking for confirmation.
I'll give it to you:
WoW is addictive, it's not any better than any other games out there, just addictive.
I played wow for three years and only quit when i found EVE - i can safely say my attraction to Wow was that i was unhappy with my RL personality and wanted to create an avatar with which i could excel. the reason eve kicked my wow habit was because your avatar in eve is more customizable and therefore more satisfying to level.
we all like games for different reasons.

Luckily i'm not addicted to EVE yet because it's slower, and u don't have to be at the keyboard 24/7. It's really a much better game...
Hate to be so blunt but you are wrong. When my friends started playing wow, i was level 30, and slowly but surely they creeped up on me because i was bored of leveling. Our 70 friend told us that when we hit 70 we would start "playing" the game, talking about PVP and how much better it would be. And the more i thought about that, the less interested i became. I was working and playing a character, and doing the same motion everyday, and just so i oculd fight some other people who played as much as i did? I literally stopped seeing the appeal, its that simple.
 

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I cant see the point in any MMORPG, they are all effectivly the same quest repeated ad infinitum.

But if you like it then play it, I just cant see the point in paying a subscription for a massive grind-a-thon
 

Takatchi

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I enjoyed WoW while I played it. It's basically taken the various cookie cutters from popular MMORPGs and standardized them, kind of like how way back in the day England was using a billion systems of measurement that changed every year before somebody sat down and said "OK, we're doing it THIS way." WoW is a formula, like most modern MMORPGs, and it was one of the first to make it marketable to a playerbase wider than "people who are already interested in MMORPGs."

WoW, pre-Burning Crusade, was a fun time for me. It was a hard grind, to be sure, but there was this mystery of so much to do. Of course, that was probably due to me being a dumb newbie. Still, there was a lot I never knew about, including how to get attuned to some of the high-level dungeons, events that happened only in those uber-elite level 60 areas, or even the holiday quests! It was this fantasy that one day I would be level 60 and know all of this stuff.

Burning Crusade came out and made all of that basically moot. It put all the interesting stuff in Outland, and then later went back to "streamline" the "getting to Outland" part of the game. Essentially, there were 58 levels that were just milking you for your time before you could get to all the stuff they put in for you to "enjoy." This really didn't sit right with me, a casual player who just wanted to have fun with the game, when all of their content was thrust into the 61-70 bracket. Karazhan became the new Dungeon of the Day. Apparently some very serious raiding guilds took this a little personally, since raiding had always been something that required a more-than-casual dedication to the game. On the surface it looks like anyone can get the same gear the hardcore raiders or PVPers can, but the reality is that the grind is even worse; casual players will generally be doing the Honor Farming or Karazhan PuGs themselves, not in a group of friends and skilled companions. Playing WoW is only a step above playing WoW alone, but it is the fact WoW can be solo'd all the way up until you want to do some complicated level 70 stuff that makes it appealing to a lot of antisocial roleplayers like the people I used to play with. :p

With Wrath of the Lich King on the horizon, I can definitely say I won't be going back to WoW until every class in the game has a "Start at level 55" button. I'm tired of 1-58, because after getting two level 70 characters and a plethora of mid-40s after grinding through the same repetitious crap to get to Outland where the fun half of the game is, I want to get on with the rest of the content already. I don't want to have to re-level another character just so I can look around Northrend, go "Oh, cool," and then never play again because I'm not "serious enough" for 10-man Arthas raids.