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Croaker42

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Sterilize everyone at birth. If later in life you decide you want to try and reproduce you will pay for an exam/background check if you don't pass either you don't reproduce.
 

UberNoodle

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In the 1st World, poeple have children when they DESIRE them, but in other places, its more because they NEED them. The highest birthrates anywhere are found after cataclysm or war significantly reduce the population. It is a natural instinct. There is also some evidence to suggest that the environment can affect the genders of these 'refill' babies.

Oppositely, some animals change gender, or even purposefully die, when their population overtakes their area's carrying capacity. Human's don't, but we do tend to have fewer children by instinctual choice.

How often do you hear poeple say that they are too busy to have kids, or perhaps they enjoy the single life too much to have them. Quite a few say that they would never want to 'bring children into a terrible world like this'. These are all attitudes of the First World. We can afford to live and die childless. In the 2nd World, but the 1st World especially, children are a matter of survival, and on top of that, child mortality can be incredibly high.

In the past, single plagues, eruptions and even meteors, would reduce human populations in significant ways. Nowadays, in the 1st World, what could possibly kill off millions of our number, except our own violent (or stupid) tendancies? Generally, those deaths are suffered by the 2nd and 3rd Worlds anyway.

So, declining birthrates will probably be a trend for developed countries, while developing countries will slowly catch up in terms of living conditions, but take a while to give up the 'baby making machine'. As always, most of the unprotected rumpy pumpy will be happening in parts of the world very few of us here would dare to tread.
 

terrible cheeb

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i surgest we do this hitchikers guide to the galaxy style and get rid of anyone who does tertairy jobs( anything oher than designing, building obtaining materials for building.) we put them on a massive ship and tell them we are colonising another world, then fire them into the sun, or just out into space somewhere.
 

Eggsnham

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Stop fucking without condoms?

I predict that this problem will solve itself before we need to worry about. Probably in a violent and disastrous way.
 

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My own thoughts are that this particular picture gives me cause for hope. It does mean that through advancement and progress, the lives of people in general have improved. I am optimistic about the outcome though. I do believe that humans will find a way to cope with a rising population, GMO's are already advancing nicely, and with new discovers in genetic engineering we might find a way to make more food abundant crops. Though all of this would be speculation, but I do feel that there is hope in such a future (it might, however, mean a one child policy as would be the case in China), and that living to see it will be interesting indeed ^~^!
 

Danny Ocean

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Souplex said:
We are an endangered species because there are too many of us, and we keep making more.[HEADING=1]Stop making more![/HEADING] Some simple math. If on average every human being consumes X, than X times our population is our consumption. Everything would be cheaper due to more resources and the supply/demand ratio taking a major dip on the demand end if we were to reduce our population. You can apply the above math to any aspect of humanity.
Doesn't work. You're left with a bunch of old people with a relatively small amount of young people supporting them. See Japan, Europe, and now more and more so, China.
 

Claymorez

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likely the technological nations will kill off the poor and high populated nations for resources. China has 1/4th of the world's population. I can see it even being self extermination in such places without stretching reality.
 

Omega V

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hhmm we seem to all be overlooking the only real way to solve all population related problems:
MASS CANNIBALISM! so many problems are solved in a stroke, overpopulation, world hunger, the proliferation of the weak....
 

Slaanax

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The more educated you are usually the less children you have how many people right now in your neighbor/social circle/blah blah blah have more than 2 or 3 children. Most people I know that are 30 maybe have 1 kid. I can't think of anyone I personally know that has more than 3 kids. My Parents are 1 of 5 and 1 of 9 and that wasn't uncommon pre-1980s, you can basically see a downward trend in birth rates.
 

Enigmers

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I think a reasonable 3-child limit or something would help a lot, especially in third-world countries in which it's common for starving parents to go ahead and make six or seven starving kids and then whine to us about their inability to make rational decisions.
soundoflights said:
We need to focus on transferred consciousness, the amount of humans isn't the problem it's the amount of energy a human needs to survive. If we can develop further technologically then human reproduction and death will become nonexistent. Instead of focusing on how to maintain our organic forms or how to ration our depleting natural resources we need to focus on understanding our minds so we can duplicate and transfer their information into a mechanical form. If we can get to that point human self evolution will jump ahead by leaps and bounds.
This is by far one of the most interesting ideas I've read in this thread.
 

direkiller

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thahat said:
direkiller said:
thahat said:
direkiller said:
soundoflights said:
We need to focus on transferred consciousness, the amount of humans isn't the problem it's the amount of energy a human needs to survive. If we can develop further technologically then human reproduction and death will become nonexistent. Instead of focusing on how to maintain our organic forms or how to ration our depleting natural resources we need to focus on understanding our minds so we can duplicate and transfer their information into a mechanical form. If we can get to that point human self evolution will jump ahead by leaps and bounds.
someone likes Ghost in the shell

anyway farming technology is increasing alot we are not close to the breaking point of the world in terms of food. If we dont find a practical substitute for oil in about 30 years and for coal in about 200 years we may have some problems however
fusion power should be here in about 10. but that will make an all out war- whoever owns the reactor, can decide who gets it, at what price. so everyone will want to own it...
I dont think you understand the difference between scientific discovery(fusion that has a net positive energy gain) and practical commercial distribution of that discovery(a working power plant).

for instance yea hydrogen cars work but the distribution system(nozzle for pumping,trucks for transporting,tanks for storing,ecd.) will take several billion dollars and years to put in place. After that you still need the hydrogen car equivalent to the model T and a solution to current pumping systems taking hours to pump hydrogen gas.
oh i do understand. i was talking about the working, functioning power plant. to make immense amounts of power out of just simple water. takes about an entire contincents worth of power generation to get started, but as soon as it does im talking prety much self sufficient. well exept for the need for a spot of water.
The law of conservation of energy and Laws of thermodynamics would like to have a word with you.

If your talking about http://www.powergenworldwide.com/index/display/articledisplay.articles.powergenworldwide.nuclear.reactors.2010.02.uk-plans_500_mw_nuclear.QP129867.dcmp=rss.page=1.html its going to need a bit more fuel then you think it dose.
 

SenseOfTumour

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Someone made a lot of sense earlier, about the birth control thing.

shame making people fear unprotected set won't work, it can already kill you stone dead from having sex ONCE, yet doesn't even make people pause before sticking it in.

However, the 1 baby per couple worldwide, for 20 years, then repeated in 20 year periods as needed sounds sensible, if only we could get people to sign up.

I can't help but think in the third world, where (and here I'm going to put humanity aside for cold logic) people are reproducing when they can't even feed themselves in some areas, an offer of a certain amount of money to come in and have a vasectomy might be the answer, it's not a cold culling, it's not a blanket ban on stopping poor people from multiplying, but it's helping them out of poverty in two ways, by giving money, and preventing them from making more people who need feeding. This could be rolled out to the UK, US, and other countries by replacing 'small sum of money' with 'tax breaks', after all, didn't some study show that having a kid is worse for the environment than buying a Humvee and taking a big holiday every year, flying both ways?

Secondly, yes, 1 baby per family, if you want more, adopt or foster, there's millions of kids already out there who need a loving home, quit pretending your womb is some magical Narnia, or that your dick is some magic genius generator, people count more than individual organs.
 

thahat

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direkiller said:
thahat said:
direkiller said:
thahat said:
direkiller said:
soundoflights said:
We need to focus on transferred consciousness, the amount of humans isn't the problem it's the amount of energy a human needs to survive. If we can develop further technologically then human reproduction and death will become nonexistent. Instead of focusing on how to maintain our organic forms or how to ration our depleting natural resources we need to focus on understanding our minds so we can duplicate and transfer their information into a mechanical form. If we can get to that point human self evolution will jump ahead by leaps and bounds.
someone likes Ghost in the shell

anyway farming technology is increasing alot we are not close to the breaking point of the world in terms of food. If we dont find a practical substitute for oil in about 30 years and for coal in about 200 years we may have some problems however
fusion power should be here in about 10. but that will make an all out war- whoever owns the reactor, can decide who gets it, at what price. so everyone will want to own it...
I dont think you understand the difference between scientific discovery(fusion that has a net positive energy gain) and practical commercial distribution of that discovery(a working power plant).

for instance yea hydrogen cars work but the distribution system(nozzle for pumping,trucks for transporting,tanks for storing,ecd.) will take several billion dollars and years to put in place. After that you still need the hydrogen car equivalent to the model T and a solution to current pumping systems taking hours to pump hydrogen gas.
oh i do understand. i was talking about the working, functioning power plant. to make immense amounts of power out of just simple water. takes about an entire contincents worth of power generation to get started, but as soon as it does im talking prety much self sufficient. well exept for the need for a spot of water.
The law of conservation of energy and Laws of thermodynamics would like to have a word with you.

If your talking about http://www.powergenworldwide.com/index/display/articledisplay.articles.powergenworldwide.nuclear.reactors.2010.02.uk-plans_500_mw_nuclear.QP129867.dcmp=rss.page=1.html its going to need a bit more fuel then you think it dose.
noh the law of conservation of energy has no quarrel with me. id like you to step outside, and look UP. well, during the daytime at least.
say hello to the worlds biggest fusion reactor. the sun.
the trick is to not just shift an element from one for to another, but to convert its entire corporeal form into energy, the americans are ahead alread. by using some kind of rediculously cooled hydrogen attoms and way to much laserpower.
 

antipunt

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Dear God....

yeah, this reminds me of the opinion of one of the philosophy students I converse with on another blog. He basically suggested that science is, in certain ways, a double edged sword. Overpopulation is one of these problems.
 

samstewiefisher

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Name99 said:
samstewiefisher said:
Haha Why would people be happy without art or entertainment? Nd why would most of the population be male? And the tech to do this simply doesnt exist.
Answers: They are working toward a goal. Art and entertainment are irrelevant to that goal, and unnecessary. Plus, the population would realise that the points of art and entertainment are simply a distraction for lesser minds.

The majority of the population would be male because all females are fucking retarded and incapable of logic.

This would obviously happen once the tech existed, plus if you create a society of geniuses all schooled to
the highest level of scientific thinking in all fields, the possibility of said tech becomes much more plausible.
Disstraction for lesser minds? You mean like wagner or da vinci?? I have now assumed your taking the piss.
 

likalaruku

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We have too many families who are having 4 or more kids. "Duh gee, my religion says I can't wear a condom, but I just can't stop f***ing. We have 8 kids & are living in near-poverty."