Overrated Classic Movies

[Dalisclock]

I feel like making the movie version of B-Cell's thread because I am curious.

As to what I see as classic movies, I say focus on movies before the 2000s because lets just say I know all of you guys are gonna say superhero movies like the Dark Knight are overrated so before 2000s it is.

For example: I think Blade Runner is overrated, and pretentious. And I watched all the versions of it.

I was gonna say Blade Runner as well. I appreciate it's well made and it looks good, but I've seen it like 3 or 4 times and it's never once grabbed me like it's apparently supposed to. It's even weirder because I like Film Noir and I keep feeling that's what Blade Runner wants to be but it just doesn't feel right.

Yeah, the Tears in the Rain speech is great but that feels like the high point of the entire film.

 

[TrulyBritish]

But at least Batman 1989 FELT like a Batman movie than the Nolan Trilogy because having recently watched the Dark Knight, they feel unrecognizable as a proper DC Comics movie so fuck it, screw my rule in the OP.

The Dark Knight is now the most overrated movie ever. And its all entirely on this near god-like veneration of Heath Ledger's Joker.

Its like these people has never seen Acting before and yet the praise of Ledger's Joker performance feels like it overshadows all others.

What ever happened to Malcolm MacDowall? What happened to Marlon Brando, Al Pacino, Robert De Niro, What happened to Tom Hanks?

I am generally very leery of saying Batman is good because it FEELS like Batman because, for better of for worse, Batman 1989 shaped the public perception of Batman by being the big mainstream iteration and by being followed by Batman:The Animated Series. It was notably different from, say, the Adam West Batman and is chockfull of imagery and sounds more evocative of Burton and Elfman that I would say a Batman that came before(although this is coming from someone born in 1994, so I can hardly be an authority of on pre1989 Batman).
The Dark Knight, to my mind, simply is the best Batman movie I've seen, with the firmest grasp on maintaining likeable characters, a compelling villain matched with an evocative soundtrack and stellar cinematography, and I can't help but feel chalking all praise of the film as just being about Ledger is a bit of a disservice to everything else it does right, and to the talents of the rest of the crew.

 

[maninahat]

I think jaws was overrated. Would have been better without the shark.

In fairness, the shark is the least interesting thing about the movie, which is really a 3 man class conflict set on a tiny boat.

"Singing in the Rain"

People only care about that one dancing number, and the movie was even built around it. The rest of the film is a typical cringe fest of a musical.

Moses Supposes is the best number. Fight me.

 

[TilMorrow]

I think jaws was overrated. Would have been better without the shark.

Jaws because there's a shark in it.

Definitely Jaws. What's with that shark anyway? It should've been about dentists or something idk

I admit I laughed.

On-Topic: Mission Impossible, I just never got what people saw in it that made them love it. It just seemed like a worse spy flick than James Bond and tried to cover it up with action scenes.

 

[Neurotic Void Melody]

Never thought of films as overrated much, they've established quite an extensive foundation of critical analysis throughout the decades that is often easier to relate to the criticisms even if you may not agree with them.

At best, I'd say there are loyal fandoms I cannot understand where the unconditional love comes from. An unoriginal observation, but something such as the original [redacted] makes far less sense than the likes of the original [redacted] series. It's a dumb [redacted] for the kids that is curiously held up as a masterpiece in writing forever by the more unquestioning fans (who were mostly kids at the time of release, coincidentally).
Not a bad thing to enjoy by any parsec, but how has it seeded itself so deeply in these adult people that much to create such an emotional attachment? It's vastly more intense and illogical than any other following. I sense there is something else cultural going on that is way beyond nostalgia or the films alone worth studying if it hasn't already been studied. But not in the name of marketing research, for crying out loud. [small](If it hasn't been done already)[/small]

Trying to think of anything else close to that worth bringing up, but other fandoms are generally effortless to handwave off into the night these days

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

But at least Batman 1989 FELT like a Batman movie than the Nolan Trilogy because having recently watched the Dark Knight, they feel unrecognizable as a proper DC Comics movie so fuck it, screw my rule in the OP.

The Dark Knight is now the most overrated movie ever. And its all entirely on this near god-like veneration of Heath Ledger's Joker.

Its like these people has never seen Acting before and yet the praise of Ledger's Joker performance feels like it overshadows all others.

What ever happened to Malcolm MacDowall? What happened to Marlon Brando, Al Pacino, Robert De Niro, What happened to Tom Hanks?

I am generally very leery of saying Batman is good because it FEELS like Batman because, for better of for worse, Batman 1989 shaped the public perception of Batman by being the big mainstream iteration and by being followed by Batman:The Animated Series. It was notably different from, say, the Adam West Batman and is chockfull of imagery and sounds more evocative of Burton and Elfman that I would say a Batman that came before(although this is coming from someone born in 1994, so I can hardly be an authority of on pre1989 Batman).
The Dark Knight, to my mind, simply is the best Batman movie I've seen, with the firmest grasp on maintaining likeable characters, a compelling villain matched with an evocative soundtrack and stellar cinematography, and I can't help but feel chalking all praise of the film as just being about Ledger is a bit of a disservice to everything else it does right, and to the talents of the rest of the crew.

If anything I find the other 2 Nolan Batman movies underrated. No one talks about them with as much veneration as the Dark Knight.

I just feel the problem with these movies is that they take away the Fantasy of Superhero comics. Ra's Al Ghul in Batman Begins is far and away nothing like how he was in the actual comics for one, the Comic one is practically unto a Sorcerer with magic.

At least with Man of Steel we see Superman flying and having heat vision, we see Krypton and how alien it is, same with the other DCEU movies.

I am just saying that Nolan Batman is a universe where we would not see the likes of Poison Ivy and Mr. Freeze portrayed like in the comic books at all, I mean we saw it with Bane.

 

[necromanzer52]

"Singing in the Rain"

People only care about that one dancing number, and the movie was even built around it. The rest of the film is a typical cringe fest of a musical.

Moses Supposes is the best number. Fight me.

Nope. Make 'em laugh. Come at me.


This guy's easily the best character. I'm also fond of Good Morning. Damn it, I love that movie.

OT: Most of the movies mentioned in this thread, I either love, or I could see how others might enjoy them. But one classic I've never been able to get behind is The Godfather. I watch that movie and I just can't bring myself to care in any way about any of the characters or the things that happen. It's just scene after scene of stuff & things. And the sequels are more of the same. I don?t get why Godfather 3 is considered inferior. It's just like the first two.

Goodfellas, on the other hand, is a bloody masterpiece.

 

[Natemans]

I think jaws was overrated. Would have been better without the shark.

In fairness, the shark is the least interesting thing about the movie, which is really a 3 man class conflict set on a tiny boat.

"Singing in the Rain"

People only care about that one dancing number, and the movie was even built around it. The rest of the film is a typical cringe fest of a musical.

Moses Supposes is the best number. Fight me.

Make 'Em Laugh is my favorite.

 

[throwmetothewolves]

Hmm, I may nominate Jaws.

I much preferred the last third of the movie compared to the first 2 acts, as I found most of it way too gruesome and very bland at times. Great for its time I guess, but very surprised it's considered a masterpiece. Maybe The Meg will be better?

 

[TrulyBritish]

If anything I find the other 2 Nolan Batman movies underrated. No one talks about them with as much veneration as the Dark Knight.

I just feel the problem with these movies is that they take away the Fantasy of Superhero comics. Ra's Al Ghul in Batman Begins is far and away nothing like how he was in the actual comics for one, the Comic one is practically unto a Sorcerer with magic.

At least with Man of Steel we see Superman flying and having heat vision, we see Krypton and how alien it is, same with the other DCEU movies.

I am just saying that Nolan Batman is a universe where we would not see the likes of Poison Ivy and Mr. Freeze portrayed like in the comic books at all, I mean we saw it with Bane.

Yeah, I can appreciate Nolan trying to do something different, and I do like his version of Ra's but I would have preferred a more comic based adaption, give us a proper mystic Ra's and a genuinely creepy Scarecrow.
Bane I didn't mind too much, I just hated the stupid mask thing he wore which practically muffled his dialogue.

 

[Smithnikov_v1legacy]

Ah, a "No Movie Is Good And You're Tastes Are All Shit" thread.

Natural Born Killers. For a movie that supposedly was a critique on the public and media's insane infatuation with serial killers, they sure went out of their way to make Mickey and Mallory the coolest, hippiest, funniest, and most bad ass people on screen.

As an old film reviewer I used to love in the Web 1.0 days said, "it's like making a movie criticizing the Disco era, and showing how awesome disco clubs and music is.

 

[throwmetothewolves]

Mulholland Drive was super overrated to me. I know it's very layered and there's a lot to understand, but it's still...not that good. Far too weird for me and just not a fun viewing experience. Then again, I dislike all Lynch films, so I suppose it's to be expected. I don't know... just think sometimes a 'weird' movie automatically becomes a 'great' movie because no one really gets it.

 

[CrazyGirl17]

The 80's Transformers movie. Not saying it's bad - it's arguably better than the Bay movies - but despite the upsides (like the awesome music and voice work) I still have major issues with the story... especially the killing off of characters, especially Optimus Prime.

Spoiler: This guy explains the movie's problems better than I can

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=939s&v=CudAXUtBmOI

Also, I don't get the appeal of James Cameron's Avatar, finding it cliche and preachy.

I don't get the appeal of The Rocky Horror Picture Show either - though I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy "The Time Warp". And Tim Curry is always fun.

 

[BrawlMan]

Akira- Animation and Art style aside, the movie's story is rushed. I like it, but it constantly getting best of or top 10 anime movies is overselling it.

Titanic - 2 hours of romance movie no body asked for.

Avatar (2009) - A glorified tech demo with a horrible written, ripped off story line. Princess Mononoke did everything better back in 1997 (1999 in the US).

The Little Mermaid - I sold my soul for a vagina. The story in a nutshell. Why so many girls wanted to become like Ariel is beyond me. It's a good thing, there were so many better developed princesses or female protagonist in Western animated movies afterward. If anything, Ariel as a character has aged worse than Cinderella or Arura.

Fight Club - I like it, but it's hard to do a repeat watch after the 2nd or 3rd time.