Well that's the thing, a BIT. Nobody's arguing that it has a strictly positive effect, but it isn't that big a deal. A sexual presentation isn't going to ruin an interesting character for me. I don't let animation bugs bother me, I don't let questionable lip syncing bother me, and I don't let ass shots, which are a lot less weird than the other stuff I mentioned, sabotage my enjoyment of the game.Lilani said:I think when people make the "Good character is too sexualized" argument, it's because there's often little context for it. Like, why does Samara dress like that? She has children so she's not celibate, but at the same time she is clearly more dedicated to her job as a justicar than to her relationships (thus giving her the willpower to track down and kill her dangerous children). With Jack it at least makes a bit of sense--she's been a science experiment all her life, of course she's going to be used to being seen basically naked, and along with her hair it can be argued that the way she dresses is a form of rebellion and liberation. And with Miranda, while she doesn't dress much worse than Femshep, the camera [http://www.themarysue.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/MirandaGreatButt1.jpeg] likes to make it known what the game wants you to be looking at.sumanoskae said:IMO, if the way a character looks destroys your ability to take them seriously, assuming that it doesn't directly contradict their character, that's a problem YOU have, not the game.
Especially when we're talking about something as superficial as the fact that they're attractive.
I didn't play Mass Effect 2 and think "Oh, Samera is a tragic and intriguing figure, but I just can't feel sympathetic for a character with jugs like that"
If you ask me, THAT'S superficial.
Even if a character is directly sexualized (Take Miranda, again from ME) it doesn't mean there's nothing underneath. The problem we face with the portrayal of women in the arts is not that they're simply "Too sexy", the problem is that, too often, that's ALL they are.
Characters with average designs aren't any better than ones with attractive designs.
The idea that a characters appearance can dictate their complexity is no less superficial than the idea that their appearance is all that matters.
And that screenshot isn't even from when you're romancing her. It's just a regular cutscene that's from her story arc. Stuff like that has no place in situations like that. When a game is deliberately sabotaging its characters for the sake of gratuitous ass and boob shots, it's hard to not argue that the characters aren't damaged in the crossfire as well. Yes, it doesn't affect the writing, however it can drastically alter the situations they are in as a whole. I mean, just imagine if Samuel L. Jackson did that whole "English ************, do you speak it?!" scene from Pulp Fiction wearing nothing but a speedo and sunglasses. The speech and the writing may be the same, but can you honestly argue that you perceive his character a bit differently because of that appearance? Or at the very least, that it would confuse you just a bit?
To me, it's a nitpick.