Pachter Says Team Bondi "Wasn't Entitled to Overtime Pay"

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Richard Allen

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The amount of entitlement in this thread is appalling.

You signed the contract to no overtime. If you feel the working conditions don't make it worth it find a new job. Simple as that. I can see boohooing about these developers (almost all of them make 40k+ minimum) who are so poor and can't fight for themselves.

The video game development industry is very competitive because people like making video games and they are willing to be paid less to be apart of something they think is cool. Rarely do people actually do research and if they did they would find out that making games is not the same as playing them. So if it's not an industry you want to be a part of then move on, there is plenty of programming work out there.

Seriously, you are not entitled to work on video games and if you want to you better be willing to work for cheaper then the standard programmer. It's not like these skills are not transferable and people can't find other work. These are highly skilled people, with plenty of options.

Elsewhere in the world, a billion people work 110 hour weeks just to eat. Entitlement at it's best.
 

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Fiskmasen said:
Warachia said:
Dipshit words
Corekting gramar in a qoutue relly doe'snt help you're kase, It just proves your a fucking dipshit.
I read that it doesn't' matter the order of letters in a word, they just need to start and end correctly to read ;)
 

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Says the wanker who never had unpayed overtime I presume.
This is the exact attitude that will make your employees leave and/or produce utter shite, if their work is not appreciated then why the fuck should they make anything good.

And if they aren't entitled to complain then nor is the boss when he gets a hatchet berried in his skull.
 

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Mr.K. said:
Says the wanker who never had unpayed overtime I presume.
This is the exact attitude that will make your employees leave and/or produce utter shite, if their work is not appreciated then why the fuck should they make anything good.

And if they aren't entitled to complain then nor is the boss when he gets a hatchet berried in his skull.
Not sure if you were responding to me but if so, I work as a software engineer, who no; does not get overtime. Now I'm not working 110 hour weeks, but if I was you better bet I'd have a new job. Probably would make more money afterwards too. And I agree any developer who works there people like this will produce shit products 95% of the time, whats your point? They can run their business anyway they'd like and if the product is shit then they will pay for it.

And yes you can complain all you want but people in here are acting like these are the most abused people in the world. I've got news for people, the computer you were typing from was made in a factory with much worse working conditions, so everyones heartfelt anger doesn't really mean much in the grand scheme of things and is a front showing how much they "care" while supporting the same exact kind of work. At least you can argue that people who work in places like foxconn actually are fighting to survive and are not making an average wage in the richest country in the world where being poor means you have cable and a nice tv to watch it on.

Like I said I would never work for a place like that and the employees shouldn't either. Move on, work for a better company. If you can program and high performance 3-d engine I promise you there is better paying work out there, albiet, boring.
 

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Richard Allen said:
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Well I didn't quote you, that must mean so I was referring to the brilliant man the thread is about... and yes that was sarcasm, that man is actually incredibly dumb, I would go so far as to say he could rival the great Bush himself.

I wont go into the "everyone should suffer" implications because it's likely to get me suspended.
 

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Fiskmasen said:
Warachia said:
Argument he didn't bother to read.
Corekting gramar in a qoutue relly doe'snt help you're kase, It just proves your a fucking dipshit.
All I can say is I'm glad you stuck to your argument and brought out intelligent points rather than resort to name calling and losing any integrity your argument may have had.
 

paketep

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Well, I say that Pachter isn't entitled to any pay at all.

Kick him and shut him up already!.
 

kael013

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Fiskmasen said:
kael013 said:
Oh, I don't know... Valve has been pretty fucking successful and their business model is "oh, btw we're working on this new game. It'll come out...sometime". This allows them to negate crunchtime and the problems that'll be overlooked during that time by making them rule the deadline and not have the deadline rule them.
Take some time to consider that statement before I continue.

Done? Alright, here we go: VALVe are SELF-PUBLISHED. You know what that means, I hope? It means that all the money put into their projects is coming from their own company. That means the only people looking for results are the company itself, and not a third party.
Your point is absolutely fucking useless in this context.
Back from my little hiatus from the site, so let's get straight to business. Actually, my point was pretty fucking useFUL because my point was that this industry needs a bit flexibility with this shit, preferably using VALVe as an example for "the right way".

Sorry that went over your head.
 

Fiskmasen

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kael013 said:
Back from my little hiatus from the site, so let's get straight to business. Actually, my point was pretty fucking useFUL because my point was that this industry needs a bit flexibility with this shit, preferably using VALVe as an example for "the right way".

Sorry that went over your head.
Are you really this stupid? VALVe being able to do shit the way they want to do them isn't a case of flexibility, it's a case of "We have so much fucking money we do not need third-party support".