Pachter: Valve Will Offer Trade-ins on Steam
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I don't see the point? I don't see the point in trading my ?50 game in for 5 Steam bux. I don't see the point in Steam letting me trade in a digital copy (and I doubt they can resell my serial keys) and I definitely don't see the point in Michael Pachter because that man is a fucking moron when he talks about PC games. He just doesn't get it.
Sure as a scandinavian I might have a little more money to blow on hobbies (like videogames) and as such I don't need trade-ins to get new games, but I seriously doubt Valve will do this. They would lose money on this and with their reputation with both gamers and studios/distributors, they don't need too do this.
What the fuck does he do anyway? Like others have said I also want a job where I sit in my chair and talk crap into a webcam. I'd even wear a tie. I might feel unclean working for gametrailers but I'm sure it would pass.
Sure as a scandinavian I might have a little more money to blow on hobbies (like videogames) and as such I don't need trade-ins to get new games, but I seriously doubt Valve will do this. They would lose money on this and with their reputation with both gamers and studios/distributors, they don't need too do this.
What the fuck does he do anyway? Like others have said I also want a job where I sit in my chair and talk crap into a webcam. I'd even wear a tie. I might feel unclean working for gametrailers but I'm sure it would pass.
I really don't think this is going to happen.
Games on steam aren't physical things. It isn't at all profitable for Valve to buy them off people, because they can't exactly sell them again.
Ok, that isn't strictly true, because they could reuse the key, but it's probably always going to be cheaper for Valve to get new keys off publishers or developers, and move these on, than it is to buy back keys from gamers.
Unless the actual amount Valve buys the keys back for is very small (say, less than £1, for games that retail at around £30), it just plain wouldn't be feasible.
Games on steam aren't physical things. It isn't at all profitable for Valve to buy them off people, because they can't exactly sell them again.
Ok, that isn't strictly true, because they could reuse the key, but it's probably always going to be cheaper for Valve to get new keys off publishers or developers, and move these on, than it is to buy back keys from gamers.
Unless the actual amount Valve buys the keys back for is very small (say, less than £1, for games that retail at around £30), it just plain wouldn't be feasible.
I can't see this happening. Trading in used games works for Gamestop because they are actually getting a physical copy of the game to sell, that they didn't have before. That's not the case with digital games. Valve has as many copies of every Steam game that they want, an infinite number. Nobody would be gaining anything by doing this.
Now, if what they are talking about is just the ability to trade a game to some other player, who doesn't own it, with Valve taking a small fee for the service, that makes some kind of sense. If that's what Pachter means, I can see it, even if he explains his thoughts about as clearly as mud.
Now, if what they are talking about is just the ability to trade a game to some other player, who doesn't own it, with Valve taking a small fee for the service, that makes some kind of sense. If that's what Pachter means, I can see it, even if he explains his thoughts about as clearly as mud.
Yeah that's probably true. They will probably make the fee like 5-15% of what the game actually costs on the market.Irridium said:
You obviously haven't bought a DOSbox game on Steam.LightOfDarkness said:
And here's the word from Valve, according to GameInformer [http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/10/14/pachter-valve-to-offer-game-trade-ins-on-steam.aspx]
So, that appears to be that, then. It appears the actual quote was Mr Patcher saying there will be trade ins on Steam which has been formally debunked.
Exort, I love how you try talking down to me and i appreciate your attempt but you still fail to remember that it is steam who lose/gain any amount from trade in's not the publisher. The publisher has already made a profit from steam every time a game is sold, the publisher aren't a part of the process of trade ins as stated in the above example.
*By the way, I realize that because i said the word Sold in the example for the bed you might have taken it as a literal for a digital licence... sigh*
But you've taken a basic hypothetical about some generic commerce and taken it as a direct comment about how steam will attempt to initiate a process like this. If you were actually paying attention i was trying to explain to Zer that it would be ridiculous to pay a fee again because the developer has already been paid, developers are not a part of the trade process, Digital or Hard copy. Like Copycatalyst's thoughts on trade's done between the consumers via a small fee from steam as a 3rd party. It would be steam's choice on an agreement with the developers whether they will gain anything from the trades done via steam. I do doubt they will, I consider steam to be similar to the guy from EB doing a trade and selling the game the next day.
*By the way, I realize that because i said the word Sold in the example for the bed you might have taken it as a literal for a digital licence... sigh*
But you've taken a basic hypothetical about some generic commerce and taken it as a direct comment about how steam will attempt to initiate a process like this. If you were actually paying attention i was trying to explain to Zer that it would be ridiculous to pay a fee again because the developer has already been paid, developers are not a part of the trade process, Digital or Hard copy. Like Copycatalyst's thoughts on trade's done between the consumers via a small fee from steam as a 3rd party. It would be steam's choice on an agreement with the developers whether they will gain anything from the trades done via steam. I do doubt they will, I consider steam to be similar to the guy from EB doing a trade and selling the game the next day.