Pair rape and Murder a girl. Then confess in WoW.

[Ando85]

Also, someone is going to want to blame WoW for this. That is incredibly ignorant. What if they had talked about it over the phone, would they blame Alexander Graham Bell?

 

[Vault101]

this really makes me sick....

 

[tzimize]

It really isnt. The world isnt black and white. A murder is not the same in every circumstance. If I was defending my loved ones from some rabid killer I would not hesitate in taking his life. This act would not cost me any bad conscience. And I do not think anyone doing something like this should be punished in the least. In a war, its kill or be killed. While I abhor war, I would go into it with the mindset that its me or them. I would expect to be killed and would defend myself accordingly.

The act of these two boys comes nowhere even close to anything I've mentioned. There is no justification for this. I do not wish the death penalty as a punishment for them, there is no worthy punishment. I do not wish it because I hate them, and I do not find it morally satisfying. I just think that we live in a society. And even if its values are not the same all over the world, there are a lot of similarities. These two have done something that is simply not defensible. It cannot be paid for with money or years spent behind bars. They have changed the world for the worse in the most horrible way. The only response I can think of is that acts like that are simply not welcome in ANY kind of circumstance or setting. They do not belong in society. They are a bad weed and should be plucked out. Simple as that. For some deeds there can be no redemption.

Death penalty isn't punishment.
It's revenge.

What you're saying is very true, but also very idealistic.
Where do you imagine drawing the line?
Let's say, murderers and rapists get the death penalty. And child molesters, those guys deserve it too.

Oh, but what about mistakes? I mean, it's not like innocent people aren't imprisoned. But that can be turned around. Death, as it turns out, can't.

Death penalty isn't not used to protect the rapists, murderers and child molesters.
It is not used to protect the innocent. You and me.

OT: Hopefully they'll get the maximum sentence. I'm guessing Canada is similar to Finland in that matter, so it won't be too much, say 20 years tops (12 years would be the maximum in Finland though).

Revenge is not an act, it is a state of mind. If we issue the death penalty it does not have to be revenge.

I imagine drawing the line more or less where you say: Murderers, rapists and child molesters.

I see your argument used all the time: What if he didnt do it? Well, you know what? In some cases there is no doubt. I'm not a bloodthirsty barbarian that wants to kill everyone because YAY DEATH PENALTY. If there is doubt, life in prison seems more decent. Or even freedom, depending on the doubt. But sometimes...there is no doubt. Like the terrorist in Norway. In these cases I see no reason to not remove them from this world.

And Finland? 12 years max? Really? That seems a mockery of justice to me. How can people respect the laws if this is how they treat the world? I do not understand it.

 

[Nouw]

They don't deserve death, but a very long time in prison so they can be rehabilitated. I find this news rather sad but after 2 years here, you get used to it.

 

[Jedoro]

This is why I advocate the death penalty: some people just deserve to be taken out back and shot.

 

[Holy_Hotdog]

this.....
I cant comment....
theres nothing left to say.

 

[ZephyrFireStrom]

This is why the death penalty should be enforced everywhere for every crime. The human race has gotten far too ignorant from all the freedom it has had. Exactly the reason why everything has taken a turn for the worst, too much freedom.

 

[Vault101]

This is why the death penalty should be enforced everywhere for every crime. The human race has gotten far too ignorant from all the freedom it has had. Exactly the reason why everything has taken a turn for the worst, too much freedom.

somone woke up on the wrong side of the bed today..didnt we?

 

[ZephyrFireStrom]

This is why the death penalty should be enforced everywhere for every crime. The human race has gotten far too ignorant from all the freedom it has had. Exactly the reason why everything has taken a turn for the worst, too much freedom.

...0.o
Please tell me that's sarcasm and you just got done watching Brazil or something.

What is there to be sarcastic about? What I said is truth. This isn't the first time something like this has happened over a game oh no, plenty of other things like this has happened over different kind of games and plenty more times that aren't related to games. All because of the freedom they had, the freedom to do what they did. Humans these days have too much freedom and can't control themselves. Like alcohol addiction, obesity, domestic violence, molestation. Freedom has rotted the human mind, some people more affected than others causing them to do unreasonable acts.

 

[ZephyrFireStrom]

And as usual I try to explain the painfully obvious truth and I am met with a wall of ignorance. Gotta stop trying to talk sense into people.

 

[Vault101]

And as usual I try to explain the painfully obvious truth and I am met with a wall of ignorance. Gotta stop trying to talk sense into people.

oh dear..this one seems rather deluded that his veiws are "truth" and you back up your argument by dismissing the other as "they jsut dont understand me! my veiws are pure FACT but they cant see that!" (you know who else does that? crazy religious nuts)

its obvious your a troll and Im not going to bother arguing further

 

[Sparrowsabre7]

These guys are just... there's no words. Any kind of rape or murder is horrible, especially the sadistic kind, but the fact they knew her and plotted beforehand just makes it so much worse... it just sickens me to my very core.

They deserve life.

 

[syclone]

Absolutley awful what these kids did, I agree with the mother of the girl. The boys should be put on death row.

WTF 15 years and then a Parole hearing, NO, they should be a life sentence.

Glad to hear they have bad memories of what they did.