panorama on video game addiction

[SenseOfTumour]

It's the Panorama drinking game! Take a drink everytime they mention Call of Duty, World of Warcraft or South Korea's love of games.

Calumon: I don't like this game. Why don't we play Jumprope?

I gotta agree with your little Digimon friend, we'd all be stocious within the first 5 minutes of the show.....

OT: It'll bring about the same outcry that the Alan Titchmarsh thing did. Everyone aged 40+ will agree with everything, the Gaming community will be outraged, we'll arrange to march on City Hall, then realise our consoles are closer (and inside)

Also, if they highlight South Korea's love of games, I'd like to highlight North Korea's love of...other stuff.

Given the choice I'll take south and games.

What we need is something that's at least PARTLY balanced, after all , as much as I love Charlie Brooker, Gameswipe probably isn't going to cover the genuine downsides of gaming.

Though from my viewpoint, most downsides of gaming can be assigned to almost anything anyone does for pleasure, people do it because it's enjoyable, they want to do it more because it's enjoyable, they might neglect other things because... etc, etc.

Of course, a TV show, when TV is in decline anyway, isn't going to draw the parallels between TV and gaming as a hobby.

 

[Octorok]

Can see them having dramatic shit flying all over the place, visiting dirty ally ways were they payed a homeless man to go on about how it was his video game addiction that got him there and now he gives BJs out back for quarters to get his fix at arcades.

The news reporter will have a sad tone in her/his voice telling us that there are some how millions others like him.

Thats just my guess, in less its about pot they slam nearly everything.

Yeah, Panorama covered all the real issues a while ago. Nowadays they take some relatively minor issue, and have the same melodrama and close-ups. Once they did a reveal program about health standards in the sandwich industry, and I swear to God, they had a dramatic close-up... OF A SANDWICH!!!!!one!

Honestly, nobody believes Panorama any more.

 

[The Cheezy One]

Why are paramore doing this? Although she is cute, so I don't mind

LATER: Well I must say, I am disappointed

 

[Sneaklemming]

Whats this - old media targeted at a middle-aged/senior audience portraying new media as {insert negative adjective here}?

*grabs popcorn*

Should make for some good fiction.

EDIT: Guess which game is getting the spotlight (no prise for winners)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/panorama/2010/12/computer_games_-_a_hard_habit.html

"The programme speaks to some young people who've dropped out of school and university to play games for anything up to 21 hours a day. They describe their obsessive gaming as an addiction."
Great, that totally sums up the average gamer, they didnt pick the worst possible people at all...
My mother wants me to watch this, fuck that shit, from that section I can tell how bad this will be, dont need to watch the show to know it will be "herp derp gamers are evil, cause violence and addictive, think of the children".

Tell her this: It is a program which is focusing on the negative aspects of gaming. It's going to show your hobby in a bad light. Fact.

 

[Sneaklemming]

I just wanted to one-up panorama on their "reveal [of] the hidden psychological devices in games that are designed to keep us coming back for more".


Extra Credits covered it here last week: The Skinner Box [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/2487-The-Skinner-Box]

 

[Shinrae]

I really hope my parents don't watch that. If they see something on TV they instantly start comparing me to it. For example: Supernanny. A kid on it does something wrong, that I also did, MORE THAN A DECADE AGO, and my parents instantly turn around to me while I'm sitting drinking from a Juice Box.

Hopefully Panorama will be sensible enough to actually talk to Gamers instead of just massive dickheads waving their PhD adorned Dicks around.

This!, Im 20 now and will still get some sort of trouble because some show goes on about 'hurr games are bad', Happens every few months it seems. And each time they just cut off my net leaveing me with very little to do (I live in the middle of nowhere v.v)

I still remember getting my copy of GTA:SA taken away because Richard and Judy said it was bad. (Because you guys all remember just how much of that game was purely about killing hookers and having graphic sex in cars etc)

Damnit, now Im annoyed and worried for the saftey of my internets.

 

[Enemy Of The State]

Watching it now. Looks like the usual one-sided biased misinformed anti-gaming stuff.

 

[Kamelmann]

Wow..

They chose some of the worst cases (wow player [who they tried to talk to WHILE he played.. and were surprised he was irritated] and a guy who got chucked out of uni)..

Some balance provided by officials..

Not as bad as I expected..

But still mild scaremongering.. imo..

 

[TheEvilCheese]

Wow..

They chose some of the worst cases (wow player [who they tried to talk to WHILE he played.. and were surprised he was irritated] and a guy who got chucked out of uni)..

Some balance provided by officials..

Not as bad as I expected..

But still mild scaremongering.. imo..

Yeah, but to be fair this is panorama, it is the BBC's flagship tabloid-documentary.

It didn't go on about violence, which is a nice change.

But don't get me wrong, they didn't pick the most balanced examples.

 

[PureChaos]

not as bad as i thought but they only looked at MMORPGs. what about the console gamers? it seemed a little biased but not as biased as i was expecting, at least they went into (some of) the positive aspects. plus they didn't end saying it was bad and should be purged from all households.

 

[Mortier]

I think they talked about 1 non-online game there.

PONG

And they showed a few other ones, but they weren't part of the main story.

So I guess all gaming is about being online a lot?


Just wow; and all they did was NOT pointing out the stupidly obvious stuff.
Addictions occur literally everywhere and all they did say was this:

Addictions are bad, hmmkay. These people are 'addicted' to games, hmmkay.
Go cry me a river.

 

[Rekrul]

A emotionally unstable, depressed, low IQ woman let her baby die because she was playing computer games. Well she was smart to blame it on games at least.

 

[AmrasCalmacil]

They're not going to be fair, they actually interviewed me, there was a reason I didn't sign their forms.

The bias and the fact I couldn't remember my own phone number, at least.

 

[Sneaklemming]

I am disappoint. Their argument revolved around anecdotal evidence and "the skinner box" in game design.

Which is odd since many of the games featured in the show dont use the skinner box mechanic like starcraft...

But really this was no more than a "beginners guide to hyperbole in video game"

 

[pulse2]

Btw people, speaking of Panorama, have any of you seen Second Skin?

 

[Cpt Corallis]

As I posted in the other threads on the topic In all I thought that this wasn't too bad, only a few things that rankled with me, such as trying to apply South Korean Culture to the UK. There are clear differences in emphasis between the two countries and i feel this could have been made more clear. Also I had hoped more would be made of the lengths family members should be going to help deal with the problems.
In addition, the online resources that were mentioned at the end were fairly useful, if sparse.

On a lighter note , I was sitting laughing at the warhammer posters on one of the british gamers walls as i kept looking to the left and seeing the same posters.

 

[Sneaklemming]

Penn and Teller: Bullshit had an excellent episode on video game violence linked to actual violence and they showed how it was, ehem, bullshit. Also they make Jack Thompson look like an asshole. It is really good you should check it out.

Any idea what the ww2 fps they showed a couple of times on there is called. It's either an obsecure mod, or a game that never released. I don't recognise it.

 

[Delusibeta]

Here's Rock Paper Shotgun's take on the program [http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/12/06/editorial-panorama-addicted-to-games/]. Damn good article, right there.

@Sneaklemming: I don't know, but I'll laugh if it was Red Orchestra, or worse, Call of Duty 1.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Penn and Teller: Bullshit had an excellent episode on video game violence linked to actual violence and they showed how it was, ehem, bullshit. Also they make Jack Thompson look like an asshole. It is really good you should check it out.

I think the one part that should be shown to Michael Atkinson, The Governator and all the other fucks is that last 5 minutes.

Especially that last shot.