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Ekonk said:
Hubilub said:
Ekonk said:
Hubilub said:
RabidusUnus said:
He won't hang him.

A real paradox:
There is a man, and he walks up to you and says, "Everything I say is a lie."
Is he telling the truth?
No, he is lying.

If he was telling the truth then nothing would make sense. However, if he is lying about this, that means that he occasionally tells the truth. We don't know, but since him telling the truth does not make sense, then the only logical explanation is that he is lying right now, but not always.
A real paradox is if I'd say 'All Dutchmen always lie.' (I'm Dutch.)

WHATYA THINK OF THAT HUH
I think that you will be forever shunned by all Dutchmen for trying to make a generalization out of all of them.
You manage to make a surprising amount of sense out of all this.
It surprised me as well. Not every day you get to make sense on the internet!
 

mip0

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Pielikey said:
He doesn't. The only reason the hangman hangs people is if they lie to him.

EDIT: Unless that man was lying...
I think so too.

But what's the meaning of this thread? Do you want us to try and solve the paradox or do you want us to post other paradoxes?
 

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His head explodes because of the paradox, causing a shockwave that kills the man too. Tough luck

OptimusPrime33 said:
Wow, your new avatar confuses me. I almost thought I'd postet that
 

CloakedOne

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We're assuming the hang man has the magical lie-detector ability in order to justly hang someone who is lying to him. Because this is so, the man probably does not have this ability and hangs everyone assuring himself that everyone is a liar and should be hanged anyway.
 
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Either way he hangs him. If he is telling the truth, he hangs him because thats what he asked. If he is lying, he still hangs him. You never explained what would happen if he was telling the truth.
 

Beardon65

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Ummm.... No? Yes?

FYI that's not a parodox THIS however is a parodox: A man is held hostage and is told he will die if he doesn't tell him a story and he'll kill him once he's finished. So the man said: One day a man is held hostage and is told he will die if he doesn't tell him a story and he'll kill him once he's finished. So the man said: One day a man is held hostage and is told he will die if he doesn't tell him a story and he'll kill him once he's finished. So the man said: One day a man is held hostage and is told he will die if he doesn't tell him a story and he'll kill him once he's finished. So the man said: One day a man is held hostage and is told he will die if he doesn't tell him a story and he'll kill him once he's finished... it will never stop.
 

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RabidusUnus said:
He won't hang him.

A real paradox:
There is a man, and he walks up to you and says, "Everything I say is a lie."
Is he telling the truth?
Yes, because he is lying about lying.
 

Danman1

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GloatingSwine said:
Danman1 said:
I think the OP meant that the hangman ONLY hangs people who lie about where they are going. So suppose he refuses to hang people who have not lied. That means that the man will still end up being a liar because he cannot be hanged. But now that he can be hanged he is telling the truth. So he must be set free and not hanged, which makes him a liar.
Even in that case, you would have to show that the man coming to be hanged knew that the hangman only hanged people who lied about why they had come to him. If he did not know that he was still not lying, that was truthfully the reason he had come to the hill.

Well I imagine the hangman with OCD who hangs liars on the hill would be pretty notorious
 

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I know the correct answer.

The hang man hung himself because he was a liar, so when he says "I hang you for lying", he means "I will always hang you".
 

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Trivun said:
He hangs the guy. It's pretty simple, this is by no means a paradox.

Scenario: The guy is lying and doesn't want to be hanged. Then he should be hanged by the hangman's own rules.

Scenario: The guy is telling the truth and wants to be hanged. Then the hangman has no qualms about hanging him anyway. It then becomes a moral problem instead.
I think the OP meant that the hangman ONLY hangs people who lie about where they are going. So suppose he refuses to hang people who have not lied. That means that the man will still end up being a liar because he cannot be hanged. But now that he can be hanged he is telling the truth. So he must be set free and not hanged, which makes him a liar.
Ah, you were doing so well up until the end there. It doesn't make him a lier, if he came with the intention of being hanged and was simply unable to make that happen due to circumstances, that doesn't make his previous proclamation a lie.

yoyo13rom said:
RabidusUnus said:
He won't hang him.

A real paradox:
There is a man, and he walks up to you and says, "Everything I say is a lie."
Is he telling the truth?
No he isn't. But he's just lying now.
If he were telling the truth, then what he's saying now is nullifying his actions.
But if he doesn't lie all the time, he can lie sometimes. So now he is lying. :p

OT: The hangman hangs only those who lie, so:
1. the dude isn't lying but the hangman can't fulfill his wish.
2. the dude didn't came to be hanged, but by saying he did, he lied. So the hangman will kill him.

In my opinion, there are no real possible paradoxes, just good logic games, or problems that are wrong, or missing something.
What about time paradoxes? I can think a solution to some of them, but not to all of them.
 

Ralphfromdk

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i've got the simplest brain killer ever :p

The line below is telling the truth

The line above is lying

you don't need anymore than that :D
 

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Beardon65 said:
Ummm.... No? Yes?

FYI that's not a parodox THIS however is a parodox: A man is held hostage and is told he will die if he doesn't tell him a story and he'll kill him once he's finished. So the man said: One day a man is held hostage and is told he will die if he doesn't tell him a story and he'll kill him once he's finished. So the man said: One day a man is held hostage and is told he will die if he doesn't tell him a story and he'll kill him once he's finished. So the man said: One day a man is held hostage and is told he will die if he doesn't tell him a story and he'll kill him once he's finished. So the man said: One day a man is held hostage and is told he will die if he doesn't tell him a story and he'll kill him once he's finished... it will never stop.
That's not a paradox, that's just recursion. And it's still possible for the story to end, the guy is just being a dick and telling a silly tale.
 

Danman1

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Hexenwolf said:
Danman1 said:
Trivun said:
He hangs the guy. It's pretty simple, this is by no means a paradox.

Scenario: The guy is lying and doesn't want to be hanged. Then he should be hanged by the hangman's own rules.

Scenario: The guy is telling the truth and wants to be hanged. Then the hangman has no qualms about hanging him anyway. It then becomes a moral problem instead.
I think the OP meant that the hangman ONLY hangs people who lie about where they are going. So suppose he refuses to hang people who have not lied. That means that the man will still end up being a liar because he cannot be hanged. But now that he can be hanged he is telling the truth. So he must be set free and not hanged, which makes him a liar.
Ah, you were doing so well up until the end there. It doesn't make him a lier, if he came with the intention of being hanged and was simply unable to make that happen due to circumstances, that doesn't make his previous proclamation a lie.
But the Hangman still thinks the man must be lying. So as a whole it's not a paradox, but to the hangman it creates one. So the man must have known the problem he created, and set the hangman in a loop of hanging and not hanging. Thus saving liars from being murdered. So really it's more of an uplifting story than a paradox
 

Cherry Cola

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You guys want to know what a real paradox is!?

Go on youtube and search "MGS time paradox"

THAT'S A REAL [sub]time[/sub] PARADOX!

What? It has the word paradox in it, it counts!