Partying with loud music at late night: your thoughts?

[Jerast]

The posts in this thread make me sad.

"BAN THEM"
"HARRASS THEM BY CALLING THE POLICE"
"WHAT A BUNCH OF DOUCHEBAGS"

From the small amount of information the OP has deigned to provide us with, it's not like he's living next to a rock band that practices every single night from 8pm-5am with no regard to their neighbours, it's apparently some kind of festival that has a permit?

Let people enjoy things you fucking children. I'm glad I had my fun teenage years before the fun police was in full swing even among the younger generations.

 

[bjj hero]

The knowledge...

This is basically one of the only reasonable answers in this thread. If they have a permit, you could get in trouble for constantly calling the police to complain about a legal party. Also, goddamn, it's just three days. Buy earplugs, sleep at a friend's place, visit family. Or just toughen up for three days.

Most of you need to loosen the hell up.

Ive got a fist bump with your name on it...

It's like no one on this forum has ever attended a party. This is what parties are like so let them have fun.

 

[FalloutJack]

The solution is simple. Sue the municipality and the organizers of the festival for damages. The specific relief you could ask for is either revoking the permit or adding limits to the permit about how late and how loud the music can be, and monetary damages from the people who approve the entertainment and set the rules for the festival.

If you can get other residents around you to join the suit, the city will respond pretty quickly, especially if its a smaller one; they don't want to spend money on defending themselves. Sometimes just the notice of people considering legal action will force changes. Circulate petitions, present the petition to the local government, then get a lawyer on your side.

It is not so simple if the OP lives in an area where this is legally allowed. Some cities have 24 hour bars/nightclubs and if they live in a part of the city zoned to allow that, their only recourse is to move or invest in soundproofing and earplugs. It is all about location as laws and zoning greatly varies. It is like moving to an area that has 24hr bands playing next door and expecting it to be quiet. In some areas, you really do not have many options.

Has the OP yet stated where he lives?

No, but stated they have a permit to do so, thus it is legal where they live. I have been in areas where this was common.. there is no winning when it is allowed there, hell many times there is no winning where it is not allowed as the police have to care enough to actually do something about it and depending on where that is there level of care varies drastically.

Best hope you have when this is actually legal there is to either move or soundproof. Starting war with the neighbors, especially when they have enough friends to have a loud party to begin with usually does not end well. The more people you piss off, the more people that are likely to retaliate. If you are forced to live next to them, you don't want to make a bad situation worse. I know how mobs of angry, rowdy drunks can be,(I had more than 200 people show up to one of my birthday parties and it was insane
and I didn't even invite any of them to begin with) and it isn't pretty and the burden of proof on who did what is on you. The nonsense on the "Neighbors" movies is minor compared to some of the things I have seen happen...

None of this discussion matters without the discussion of where, because then we don't even really know what options there are, what legalities can be approached, or anything. These are just shots in the dark and we have nothing to comment on. Where is it? Is it here somewhere in America, where it might spread to other parts of the US with a set precident? Is it Germany? Denmark? Greece? I feel this is somewhat important.

Them having a permit limited their options already regardless of the other laws.
I know in Texas, it greatly varies, but frequently the police stance on this issue here is "Their property they do what they want" for just about everything. They could care less that time when my birthday party turned into a block party. If they have to live by someone regardless though, better to make friends than piss them off. If you are going to piss them off, may be better to be when you are moving out than have to live next to them every day.

Seeing an angry mob of drunks running through someones property stealing their brisket off the grill and pissing in their pool is not something you can unsee.

I feel stealing their food dressed up as a bunch of team mascot honey badgers would be fairly appropriate. Still, things are a bit loose in Texas, aren't they? I imagine down there, if you were to wander into said party and say "Well, I gotta work tomorrow, though." in a friendly enough tone, the runner of the party would make it less deafening or at least hand you a beer as a peace offering. Am I somewhere close to the mark there?

They could hand you a beer, shoot roman candles and Saturn missile batteries at you or hog tie you and drag you from the back of their truck down a gravel road.. You never know how that is going to go down here.

That definitely doesn't bode well, at all. Mind you, every action apart from the beer there is definitely illegal and dangerous, so if you get through that, you're probably set.

It is never about what happens, it is about what you can prove and having someone willing to prosecute it.

In addition you are STILL living next to them regardless of what any of their " unknown acquaintances that may or may not have been there that no one can remember" did or did not do or WILL or will not do.

I forget. Did I ever ask you if 'He needed killing' was a real defense? It's conversations like this that make me worry about that.

 

[Lufia Erim]

Your age is showing. Go out and rave with them! Seriously if it's just 3 days a year grit your teeth and bare it let people have fun. I never got the no fun allowed people. If it was every week then fine. If its once a year during a summer festival or something just bare with it. Or move next year.

 

[happyninja42]

I fall asleep to EDM all the time, so having it thumping near me probably wouldn't bother me much at all.

I used to fall asleep listening to Faith No More albums on headphones, so I might be a bit skewed on my opinion.

Since you technically asked, in the title what our thoughts are, my thoughts are it's not that big a deal.

However if you are actually suffering from biological issues, I would suggest getting earplugs, or perhaps getting some perscription sleeping pills for the event timeframe. Or, as others have suggested, just go visit a friend for a few days or something.

If this is a yearly festival, that brings in tons of money in taxes and sales for the city I seriously doubt they are going to shut it down. It's only once a year, they have a permit to do it. If you really don't like it that much, try and get your city ordinances changed, by taking part in your local government. Perhaps something like "no such parties within city limits, or *insert distance* from residential areas" might help in the long run. But, I'm guessing you probably aren't going to be motivated enough to join the political movement of your city, just to shut up a party for 3 days a year.

Otherwise, yeah, go on a trip, find some friends and crash with them, or go join the party.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

The solution is simple. Sue the municipality and the organizers of the festival for damages. The specific relief you could ask for is either revoking the permit or adding limits to the permit about how late and how loud the music can be, and monetary damages from the people who approve the entertainment and set the rules for the festival.

If you can get other residents around you to join the suit, the city will respond pretty quickly, especially if its a smaller one; they don't want to spend money on defending themselves. Sometimes just the notice of people considering legal action will force changes. Circulate petitions, present the petition to the local government, then get a lawyer on your side.

It is not so simple if the OP lives in an area where this is legally allowed. Some cities have 24 hour bars/nightclubs and if they live in a part of the city zoned to allow that, their only recourse is to move or invest in soundproofing and earplugs. It is all about location as laws and zoning greatly varies. It is like moving to an area that has 24hr bands playing next door and expecting it to be quiet. In some areas, you really do not have many options.

Has the OP yet stated where he lives?

No, but stated they have a permit to do so, thus it is legal where they live. I have been in areas where this was common.. there is no winning when it is allowed there, hell many times there is no winning where it is not allowed as the police have to care enough to actually do something about it and depending on where that is there level of care varies drastically.

Best hope you have when this is actually legal there is to either move or soundproof. Starting war with the neighbors, especially when they have enough friends to have a loud party to begin with usually does not end well. The more people you piss off, the more people that are likely to retaliate. If you are forced to live next to them, you don't want to make a bad situation worse. I know how mobs of angry, rowdy drunks can be,(I had more than 200 people show up to one of my birthday parties and it was insane
and I didn't even invite any of them to begin with) and it isn't pretty and the burden of proof on who did what is on you. The nonsense on the "Neighbors" movies is minor compared to some of the things I have seen happen...

None of this discussion matters without the discussion of where, because then we don't even really know what options there are, what legalities can be approached, or anything. These are just shots in the dark and we have nothing to comment on. Where is it? Is it here somewhere in America, where it might spread to other parts of the US with a set precident? Is it Germany? Denmark? Greece? I feel this is somewhat important.

Them having a permit limited their options already regardless of the other laws.
I know in Texas, it greatly varies, but frequently the police stance on this issue here is "Their property they do what they want" for just about everything. They could care less that time when my birthday party turned into a block party. If they have to live by someone regardless though, better to make friends than piss them off. If you are going to piss them off, may be better to be when you are moving out than have to live next to them every day.

Seeing an angry mob of drunks running through someones property stealing their brisket off the grill and pissing in their pool is not something you can unsee.

I feel stealing their food dressed up as a bunch of team mascot honey badgers would be fairly appropriate. Still, things are a bit loose in Texas, aren't they? I imagine down there, if you were to wander into said party and say "Well, I gotta work tomorrow, though." in a friendly enough tone, the runner of the party would make it less deafening or at least hand you a beer as a peace offering. Am I somewhere close to the mark there?

They could hand you a beer, shoot roman candles and Saturn missile batteries at you or hog tie you and drag you from the back of their truck down a gravel road.. You never know how that is going to go down here.

That definitely doesn't bode well, at all. Mind you, every action apart from the beer there is definitely illegal and dangerous, so if you get through that, you're probably set.

It is never about what happens, it is about what you can prove and having someone willing to prosecute it.

In addition you are STILL living next to them regardless of what any of their " unknown acquaintances that may or may not have been there that no one can remember" did or did not do or WILL or will not do.

I forget. Did I ever ask you if 'He needed killing' was a real defense? It's conversations like this that make me worry about that.

Yea.. I have seen what happened to people when they asked someone to make their dog stop barking.. Nothing durprises me anymore. People are scary, it is best not to give them reasons to stalk you.

 

[FalloutJack]

The solution is simple. Sue the municipality and the organizers of the festival for damages. The specific relief you could ask for is either revoking the permit or adding limits to the permit about how late and how loud the music can be, and monetary damages from the people who approve the entertainment and set the rules for the festival.

If you can get other residents around you to join the suit, the city will respond pretty quickly, especially if its a smaller one; they don't want to spend money on defending themselves. Sometimes just the notice of people considering legal action will force changes. Circulate petitions, present the petition to the local government, then get a lawyer on your side.

It is not so simple if the OP lives in an area where this is legally allowed. Some cities have 24 hour bars/nightclubs and if they live in a part of the city zoned to allow that, their only recourse is to move or invest in soundproofing and earplugs. It is all about location as laws and zoning greatly varies. It is like moving to an area that has 24hr bands playing next door and expecting it to be quiet. In some areas, you really do not have many options.

Has the OP yet stated where he lives?

No, but stated they have a permit to do so, thus it is legal where they live. I have been in areas where this was common.. there is no winning when it is allowed there, hell many times there is no winning where it is not allowed as the police have to care enough to actually do something about it and depending on where that is there level of care varies drastically.

Best hope you have when this is actually legal there is to either move or soundproof. Starting war with the neighbors, especially when they have enough friends to have a loud party to begin with usually does not end well. The more people you piss off, the more people that are likely to retaliate. If you are forced to live next to them, you don't want to make a bad situation worse. I know how mobs of angry, rowdy drunks can be,(I had more than 200 people show up to one of my birthday parties and it was insane
and I didn't even invite any of them to begin with) and it isn't pretty and the burden of proof on who did what is on you. The nonsense on the "Neighbors" movies is minor compared to some of the things I have seen happen...

None of this discussion matters without the discussion of where, because then we don't even really know what options there are, what legalities can be approached, or anything. These are just shots in the dark and we have nothing to comment on. Where is it? Is it here somewhere in America, where it might spread to other parts of the US with a set precident? Is it Germany? Denmark? Greece? I feel this is somewhat important.

Them having a permit limited their options already regardless of the other laws.
I know in Texas, it greatly varies, but frequently the police stance on this issue here is "Their property they do what they want" for just about everything. They could care less that time when my birthday party turned into a block party. If they have to live by someone regardless though, better to make friends than piss them off. If you are going to piss them off, may be better to be when you are moving out than have to live next to them every day.

Seeing an angry mob of drunks running through someones property stealing their brisket off the grill and pissing in their pool is not something you can unsee.

I feel stealing their food dressed up as a bunch of team mascot honey badgers would be fairly appropriate. Still, things are a bit loose in Texas, aren't they? I imagine down there, if you were to wander into said party and say "Well, I gotta work tomorrow, though." in a friendly enough tone, the runner of the party would make it less deafening or at least hand you a beer as a peace offering. Am I somewhere close to the mark there?

They could hand you a beer, shoot roman candles and Saturn missile batteries at you or hog tie you and drag you from the back of their truck down a gravel road.. You never know how that is going to go down here.

That definitely doesn't bode well, at all. Mind you, every action apart from the beer there is definitely illegal and dangerous, so if you get through that, you're probably set.

It is never about what happens, it is about what you can prove and having someone willing to prosecute it.

In addition you are STILL living next to them regardless of what any of their " unknown acquaintances that may or may not have been there that no one can remember" did or did not do or WILL or will not do.

I forget. Did I ever ask you if 'He needed killing' was a real defense? It's conversations like this that make me worry about that.

Yea.. I have seen what happened to people when they asked someone to make their dog stop barking.. Nothing durprises me anymore. People are scary, it is best not to give them reasons to stalk you.

Dogs do not stop barking. They do, in fact, always want the last word. If you, in fact, seemingly get your dog to hush up, there will be at least one more woof.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

The solution is simple. Sue the municipality and the organizers of the festival for damages. The specific relief you could ask for is either revoking the permit or adding limits to the permit about how late and how loud the music can be, and monetary damages from the people who approve the entertainment and set the rules for the festival.

If you can get other residents around you to join the suit, the city will respond pretty quickly, especially if its a smaller one; they don't want to spend money on defending themselves. Sometimes just the notice of people considering legal action will force changes. Circulate petitions, present the petition to the local government, then get a lawyer on your side.

It is not so simple if the OP lives in an area where this is legally allowed. Some cities have 24 hour bars/nightclubs and if they live in a part of the city zoned to allow that, their only recourse is to move or invest in soundproofing and earplugs. It is all about location as laws and zoning greatly varies. It is like moving to an area that has 24hr bands playing next door and expecting it to be quiet. In some areas, you really do not have many options.

Has the OP yet stated where he lives?

No, but stated they have a permit to do so, thus it is legal where they live. I have been in areas where this was common.. there is no winning when it is allowed there, hell many times there is no winning where it is not allowed as the police have to care enough to actually do something about it and depending on where that is there level of care varies drastically.

Best hope you have when this is actually legal there is to either move or soundproof. Starting war with the neighbors, especially when they have enough friends to have a loud party to begin with usually does not end well. The more people you piss off, the more people that are likely to retaliate. If you are forced to live next to them, you don't want to make a bad situation worse. I know how mobs of angry, rowdy drunks can be,(I had more than 200 people show up to one of my birthday parties and it was insane
and I didn't even invite any of them to begin with) and it isn't pretty and the burden of proof on who did what is on you. The nonsense on the "Neighbors" movies is minor compared to some of the things I have seen happen...

None of this discussion matters without the discussion of where, because then we don't even really know what options there are, what legalities can be approached, or anything. These are just shots in the dark and we have nothing to comment on. Where is it? Is it here somewhere in America, where it might spread to other parts of the US with a set precident? Is it Germany? Denmark? Greece? I feel this is somewhat important.

Them having a permit limited their options already regardless of the other laws.
I know in Texas, it greatly varies, but frequently the police stance on this issue here is "Their property they do what they want" for just about everything. They could care less that time when my birthday party turned into a block party. If they have to live by someone regardless though, better to make friends than piss them off. If you are going to piss them off, may be better to be when you are moving out than have to live next to them every day.

Seeing an angry mob of drunks running through someones property stealing their brisket off the grill and pissing in their pool is not something you can unsee.

I feel stealing their food dressed up as a bunch of team mascot honey badgers would be fairly appropriate. Still, things are a bit loose in Texas, aren't they? I imagine down there, if you were to wander into said party and say "Well, I gotta work tomorrow, though." in a friendly enough tone, the runner of the party would make it less deafening or at least hand you a beer as a peace offering. Am I somewhere close to the mark there?

They could hand you a beer, shoot roman candles and Saturn missile batteries at you or hog tie you and drag you from the back of their truck down a gravel road.. You never know how that is going to go down here.

That definitely doesn't bode well, at all. Mind you, every action apart from the beer there is definitely illegal and dangerous, so if you get through that, you're probably set.

It is never about what happens, it is about what you can prove and having someone willing to prosecute it.

In addition you are STILL living next to them regardless of what any of their " unknown acquaintances that may or may not have been there that no one can remember" did or did not do or WILL or will not do.

I forget. Did I ever ask you if 'He needed killing' was a real defense? It's conversations like this that make me worry about that.

Yea.. I have seen what happened to people when they asked someone to make their dog stop barking.. Nothing durprises me anymore. People are scary, it is best not to give them reasons to stalk you.

Dogs do not stop barking. They do, in fact, always want the last word. If you, in fact, seemingly get your dog to hush up, there will be at least one more woof.

Well feeding them and bringing them in the house at night and inside when it is a freezing blizzard is a good start. Some of the people who live around here...

 

[FalloutJack]

The solution is simple. Sue the municipality and the organizers of the festival for damages. The specific relief you could ask for is either revoking the permit or adding limits to the permit about how late and how loud the music can be, and monetary damages from the people who approve the entertainment and set the rules for the festival.

If you can get other residents around you to join the suit, the city will respond pretty quickly, especially if its a smaller one; they don't want to spend money on defending themselves. Sometimes just the notice of people considering legal action will force changes. Circulate petitions, present the petition to the local government, then get a lawyer on your side.

It is not so simple if the OP lives in an area where this is legally allowed. Some cities have 24 hour bars/nightclubs and if they live in a part of the city zoned to allow that, their only recourse is to move or invest in soundproofing and earplugs. It is all about location as laws and zoning greatly varies. It is like moving to an area that has 24hr bands playing next door and expecting it to be quiet. In some areas, you really do not have many options.

Has the OP yet stated where he lives?

No, but stated they have a permit to do so, thus it is legal where they live. I have been in areas where this was common.. there is no winning when it is allowed there, hell many times there is no winning where it is not allowed as the police have to care enough to actually do something about it and depending on where that is there level of care varies drastically.

Best hope you have when this is actually legal there is to either move or soundproof. Starting war with the neighbors, especially when they have enough friends to have a loud party to begin with usually does not end well. The more people you piss off, the more people that are likely to retaliate. If you are forced to live next to them, you don't want to make a bad situation worse. I know how mobs of angry, rowdy drunks can be,(I had more than 200 people show up to one of my birthday parties and it was insane
and I didn't even invite any of them to begin with) and it isn't pretty and the burden of proof on who did what is on you. The nonsense on the "Neighbors" movies is minor compared to some of the things I have seen happen...

None of this discussion matters without the discussion of where, because then we don't even really know what options there are, what legalities can be approached, or anything. These are just shots in the dark and we have nothing to comment on. Where is it? Is it here somewhere in America, where it might spread to other parts of the US with a set precident? Is it Germany? Denmark? Greece? I feel this is somewhat important.

Them having a permit limited their options already regardless of the other laws.
I know in Texas, it greatly varies, but frequently the police stance on this issue here is "Their property they do what they want" for just about everything. They could care less that time when my birthday party turned into a block party. If they have to live by someone regardless though, better to make friends than piss them off. If you are going to piss them off, may be better to be when you are moving out than have to live next to them every day.

Seeing an angry mob of drunks running through someones property stealing their brisket off the grill and pissing in their pool is not something you can unsee.

I feel stealing their food dressed up as a bunch of team mascot honey badgers would be fairly appropriate. Still, things are a bit loose in Texas, aren't they? I imagine down there, if you were to wander into said party and say "Well, I gotta work tomorrow, though." in a friendly enough tone, the runner of the party would make it less deafening or at least hand you a beer as a peace offering. Am I somewhere close to the mark there?

They could hand you a beer, shoot roman candles and Saturn missile batteries at you or hog tie you and drag you from the back of their truck down a gravel road.. You never know how that is going to go down here.

That definitely doesn't bode well, at all. Mind you, every action apart from the beer there is definitely illegal and dangerous, so if you get through that, you're probably set.

It is never about what happens, it is about what you can prove and having someone willing to prosecute it.

In addition you are STILL living next to them regardless of what any of their " unknown acquaintances that may or may not have been there that no one can remember" did or did not do or WILL or will not do.

I forget. Did I ever ask you if 'He needed killing' was a real defense? It's conversations like this that make me worry about that.

Yea.. I have seen what happened to people when they asked someone to make their dog stop barking.. Nothing durprises me anymore. People are scary, it is best not to give them reasons to stalk you.

Dogs do not stop barking. They do, in fact, always want the last word. If you, in fact, seemingly get your dog to hush up, there will be at least one more woof.

Well feeding them and bringing them in the house at night and inside when it is a freezing blizzard is a good start. Some of the people who live around here...

There are people who don't bring their dogs in when it's inhospitably cold? That's terrible. I live more north than you. I get weather down from Canada. This would be hella-hard on the dog up here.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

The solution is simple. Sue the municipality and the organizers of the festival for damages. The specific relief you could ask for is either revoking the permit or adding limits to the permit about how late and how loud the music can be, and monetary damages from the people who approve the entertainment and set the rules for the festival.

If you can get other residents around you to join the suit, the city will respond pretty quickly, especially if its a smaller one; they don't want to spend money on defending themselves. Sometimes just the notice of people considering legal action will force changes. Circulate petitions, present the petition to the local government, then get a lawyer on your side.

It is not so simple if the OP lives in an area where this is legally allowed. Some cities have 24 hour bars/nightclubs and if they live in a part of the city zoned to allow that, their only recourse is to move or invest in soundproofing and earplugs. It is all about location as laws and zoning greatly varies. It is like moving to an area that has 24hr bands playing next door and expecting it to be quiet. In some areas, you really do not have many options.

Has the OP yet stated where he lives?

No, but stated they have a permit to do so, thus it is legal where they live. I have been in areas where this was common.. there is no winning when it is allowed there, hell many times there is no winning where it is not allowed as the police have to care enough to actually do something about it and depending on where that is there level of care varies drastically.

Best hope you have when this is actually legal there is to either move or soundproof. Starting war with the neighbors, especially when they have enough friends to have a loud party to begin with usually does not end well. The more people you piss off, the more people that are likely to retaliate. If you are forced to live next to them, you don't want to make a bad situation worse. I know how mobs of angry, rowdy drunks can be,(I had more than 200 people show up to one of my birthday parties and it was insane
and I didn't even invite any of them to begin with) and it isn't pretty and the burden of proof on who did what is on you. The nonsense on the "Neighbors" movies is minor compared to some of the things I have seen happen...

None of this discussion matters without the discussion of where, because then we don't even really know what options there are, what legalities can be approached, or anything. These are just shots in the dark and we have nothing to comment on. Where is it? Is it here somewhere in America, where it might spread to other parts of the US with a set precident? Is it Germany? Denmark? Greece? I feel this is somewhat important.

Them having a permit limited their options already regardless of the other laws.
I know in Texas, it greatly varies, but frequently the police stance on this issue here is "Their property they do what they want" for just about everything. They could care less that time when my birthday party turned into a block party. If they have to live by someone regardless though, better to make friends than piss them off. If you are going to piss them off, may be better to be when you are moving out than have to live next to them every day.

Seeing an angry mob of drunks running through someones property stealing their brisket off the grill and pissing in their pool is not something you can unsee.

I feel stealing their food dressed up as a bunch of team mascot honey badgers would be fairly appropriate. Still, things are a bit loose in Texas, aren't they? I imagine down there, if you were to wander into said party and say "Well, I gotta work tomorrow, though." in a friendly enough tone, the runner of the party would make it less deafening or at least hand you a beer as a peace offering. Am I somewhere close to the mark there?

They could hand you a beer, shoot roman candles and Saturn missile batteries at you or hog tie you and drag you from the back of their truck down a gravel road.. You never know how that is going to go down here.

That definitely doesn't bode well, at all. Mind you, every action apart from the beer there is definitely illegal and dangerous, so if you get through that, you're probably set.

It is never about what happens, it is about what you can prove and having someone willing to prosecute it.

In addition you are STILL living next to them regardless of what any of their " unknown acquaintances that may or may not have been there that no one can remember" did or did not do or WILL or will not do.

I forget. Did I ever ask you if 'He needed killing' was a real defense? It's conversations like this that make me worry about that.

Yea.. I have seen what happened to people when they asked someone to make their dog stop barking.. Nothing durprises me anymore. People are scary, it is best not to give them reasons to stalk you.

Dogs do not stop barking. They do, in fact, always want the last word. If you, in fact, seemingly get your dog to hush up, there will be at least one more woof.

Well feeding them and bringing them in the house at night and inside when it is a freezing blizzard is a good start. Some of the people who live around here...

There are people who don't bring their dogs in when it's inhospitably cold? That's terrible. I live more north than you. I get weather down from Canada. This would be hella-hard on the dog up here.

They still get it bad enough here that it has killed many a dog. It is devastating to see what some of these people do to their pets.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/Texas-Man-Faces-Animal-Abuse-Charges-After-Dog-Freezes-to-Death-239236751.html?fb_comment_id=255969417901820_873126

 

[FalloutJack]

The solution is simple. Sue the municipality and the organizers of the festival for damages. The specific relief you could ask for is either revoking the permit or adding limits to the permit about how late and how loud the music can be, and monetary damages from the people who approve the entertainment and set the rules for the festival.

If you can get other residents around you to join the suit, the city will respond pretty quickly, especially if its a smaller one; they don't want to spend money on defending themselves. Sometimes just the notice of people considering legal action will force changes. Circulate petitions, present the petition to the local government, then get a lawyer on your side.

It is not so simple if the OP lives in an area where this is legally allowed. Some cities have 24 hour bars/nightclubs and if they live in a part of the city zoned to allow that, their only recourse is to move or invest in soundproofing and earplugs. It is all about location as laws and zoning greatly varies. It is like moving to an area that has 24hr bands playing next door and expecting it to be quiet. In some areas, you really do not have many options.

Has the OP yet stated where he lives?

No, but stated they have a permit to do so, thus it is legal where they live. I have been in areas where this was common.. there is no winning when it is allowed there, hell many times there is no winning where it is not allowed as the police have to care enough to actually do something about it and depending on where that is there level of care varies drastically.

Best hope you have when this is actually legal there is to either move or soundproof. Starting war with the neighbors, especially when they have enough friends to have a loud party to begin with usually does not end well. The more people you piss off, the more people that are likely to retaliate. If you are forced to live next to them, you don't want to make a bad situation worse. I know how mobs of angry, rowdy drunks can be,(I had more than 200 people show up to one of my birthday parties and it was insane
and I didn't even invite any of them to begin with) and it isn't pretty and the burden of proof on who did what is on you. The nonsense on the "Neighbors" movies is minor compared to some of the things I have seen happen...

None of this discussion matters without the discussion of where, because then we don't even really know what options there are, what legalities can be approached, or anything. These are just shots in the dark and we have nothing to comment on. Where is it? Is it here somewhere in America, where it might spread to other parts of the US with a set precident? Is it Germany? Denmark? Greece? I feel this is somewhat important.

Them having a permit limited their options already regardless of the other laws.
I know in Texas, it greatly varies, but frequently the police stance on this issue here is "Their property they do what they want" for just about everything. They could care less that time when my birthday party turned into a block party. If they have to live by someone regardless though, better to make friends than piss them off. If you are going to piss them off, may be better to be when you are moving out than have to live next to them every day.

Seeing an angry mob of drunks running through someones property stealing their brisket off the grill and pissing in their pool is not something you can unsee.

I feel stealing their food dressed up as a bunch of team mascot honey badgers would be fairly appropriate. Still, things are a bit loose in Texas, aren't they? I imagine down there, if you were to wander into said party and say "Well, I gotta work tomorrow, though." in a friendly enough tone, the runner of the party would make it less deafening or at least hand you a beer as a peace offering. Am I somewhere close to the mark there?

They could hand you a beer, shoot roman candles and Saturn missile batteries at you or hog tie you and drag you from the back of their truck down a gravel road.. You never know how that is going to go down here.

That definitely doesn't bode well, at all. Mind you, every action apart from the beer there is definitely illegal and dangerous, so if you get through that, you're probably set.

It is never about what happens, it is about what you can prove and having someone willing to prosecute it.

In addition you are STILL living next to them regardless of what any of their " unknown acquaintances that may or may not have been there that no one can remember" did or did not do or WILL or will not do.

I forget. Did I ever ask you if 'He needed killing' was a real defense? It's conversations like this that make me worry about that.

Yea.. I have seen what happened to people when they asked someone to make their dog stop barking.. Nothing durprises me anymore. People are scary, it is best not to give them reasons to stalk you.

Dogs do not stop barking. They do, in fact, always want the last word. If you, in fact, seemingly get your dog to hush up, there will be at least one more woof.

Well feeding them and bringing them in the house at night and inside when it is a freezing blizzard is a good start. Some of the people who live around here...

There are people who don't bring their dogs in when it's inhospitably cold? That's terrible. I live more north than you. I get weather down from Canada. This would be hella-hard on the dog up here.

They still get it bad enough here that it has killed many a dog. It is devastating to see what some of these people do to their pets.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/Texas-Man-Faces-Animal-Abuse-Charges-After-Dog-Freezes-to-Death-239236751.html?fb_comment_id=255969417901820_873126

I cannot stand animal cruelty. My last dog was a rescued dog. Two of my cats were originally strays, and one of the others was the daughter of one of those strays.

 

[Bob_McMillan]

Imagine going to sleep to the sound of drunk Asians singing shitty popular music at a karaoke. That's pretty much my whole Christmas experience.

I don't go to parties much, but the ones I did go to that had loud music and shouting late into the night were either at bars or peoples' residences that were pretty much isolated. Loud music can be fun, I use to drink as much as possible and ignore everyone around. And it's less embarrassing when you get drunk and start shouting nonsense.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

The solution is simple. Sue the municipality and the organizers of the festival for damages. The specific relief you could ask for is either revoking the permit or adding limits to the permit about how late and how loud the music can be, and monetary damages from the people who approve the entertainment and set the rules for the festival.

If you can get other residents around you to join the suit, the city will respond pretty quickly, especially if its a smaller one; they don't want to spend money on defending themselves. Sometimes just the notice of people considering legal action will force changes. Circulate petitions, present the petition to the local government, then get a lawyer on your side.

It is not so simple if the OP lives in an area where this is legally allowed. Some cities have 24 hour bars/nightclubs and if they live in a part of the city zoned to allow that, their only recourse is to move or invest in soundproofing and earplugs. It is all about location as laws and zoning greatly varies. It is like moving to an area that has 24hr bands playing next door and expecting it to be quiet. In some areas, you really do not have many options.

Has the OP yet stated where he lives?

No, but stated they have a permit to do so, thus it is legal where they live. I have been in areas where this was common.. there is no winning when it is allowed there, hell many times there is no winning where it is not allowed as the police have to care enough to actually do something about it and depending on where that is there level of care varies drastically.

Best hope you have when this is actually legal there is to either move or soundproof. Starting war with the neighbors, especially when they have enough friends to have a loud party to begin with usually does not end well. The more people you piss off, the more people that are likely to retaliate. If you are forced to live next to them, you don't want to make a bad situation worse. I know how mobs of angry, rowdy drunks can be,(I had more than 200 people show up to one of my birthday parties and it was insane
and I didn't even invite any of them to begin with) and it isn't pretty and the burden of proof on who did what is on you. The nonsense on the "Neighbors" movies is minor compared to some of the things I have seen happen...

None of this discussion matters without the discussion of where, because then we don't even really know what options there are, what legalities can be approached, or anything. These are just shots in the dark and we have nothing to comment on. Where is it? Is it here somewhere in America, where it might spread to other parts of the US with a set precident? Is it Germany? Denmark? Greece? I feel this is somewhat important.

Them having a permit limited their options already regardless of the other laws.
I know in Texas, it greatly varies, but frequently the police stance on this issue here is "Their property they do what they want" for just about everything. They could care less that time when my birthday party turned into a block party. If they have to live by someone regardless though, better to make friends than piss them off. If you are going to piss them off, may be better to be when you are moving out than have to live next to them every day.

Seeing an angry mob of drunks running through someones property stealing their brisket off the grill and pissing in their pool is not something you can unsee.

I feel stealing their food dressed up as a bunch of team mascot honey badgers would be fairly appropriate. Still, things are a bit loose in Texas, aren't they? I imagine down there, if you were to wander into said party and say "Well, I gotta work tomorrow, though." in a friendly enough tone, the runner of the party would make it less deafening or at least hand you a beer as a peace offering. Am I somewhere close to the mark there?

They could hand you a beer, shoot roman candles and Saturn missile batteries at you or hog tie you and drag you from the back of their truck down a gravel road.. You never know how that is going to go down here.

That definitely doesn't bode well, at all. Mind you, every action apart from the beer there is definitely illegal and dangerous, so if you get through that, you're probably set.

It is never about what happens, it is about what you can prove and having someone willing to prosecute it.

In addition you are STILL living next to them regardless of what any of their " unknown acquaintances that may or may not have been there that no one can remember" did or did not do or WILL or will not do.

I forget. Did I ever ask you if 'He needed killing' was a real defense? It's conversations like this that make me worry about that.

Yea.. I have seen what happened to people when they asked someone to make their dog stop barking.. Nothing durprises me anymore. People are scary, it is best not to give them reasons to stalk you.

Dogs do not stop barking. They do, in fact, always want the last word. If you, in fact, seemingly get your dog to hush up, there will be at least one more woof.

Well feeding them and bringing them in the house at night and inside when it is a freezing blizzard is a good start. Some of the people who live around here...

There are people who don't bring their dogs in when it's inhospitably cold? That's terrible. I live more north than you. I get weather down from Canada. This would be hella-hard on the dog up here.

They still get it bad enough here that it has killed many a dog. It is devastating to see what some of these people do to their pets.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/Texas-Man-Faces-Animal-Abuse-Charges-After-Dog-Freezes-to-Death-239236751.html?fb_comment_id=255969417901820_873126

I cannot stand animal cruelty. My last dog was a rescued dog. Two of my cats were originally strays, and one of the others was the daughter of one of those strays.

Yea, sadly here it is terribly common. My cats were rescue cats as well. There are a lot of messed up people in the world. You never know who your neighbor is going to turn out to be... could be one of the guys who did this for all you know:

http://www.heraldonline.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article164141692.html

So yea, I usually refrain from trying too hard to piss off my neighbors. I have met far too many creepy people as it is.

 

[Ramdin44]

Don't miss the night. Enjoy!