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BonsaiK said:
Eri said:
Does it not bug anyone else how much people doing movies, football, sports etc, get paid? They don't save lives, they don't teach children, they don't rescue anything, they don't protect anything. All they do is entertain. Should they be paid decently for it? Sure.

On the other hand, why are doctors, teachers, police, firemen, all paid crap salaries?
Well they're a public utility paid for by the government, so.... ah, that's right - taxes. You like paying taxes, don't you? Do you still want to pay policemen and firemen more money?

I'd happily take an increase in my taxes if it would allow for better funding for emergency services personnel, equipment maintenance, systems infrastructure and most especially wages.
 

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Athletes get paid a lot because who pays them make more for them but and because there are less high performance athletes than doctors but yeah I see your point.
 

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Radeonx said:
Eri said:
They aren't payed as much as professional athletes, but they are still payed a hefty sum.
They might be paid a hefty sum, if they have a good specialization, after they've paid off their eight years of school(presuming student loans), plus their malpractice insurance, plus their other bills.

Typically, until a doctor is finished with their general time, which I think in the USA is five years, they generally make about enough money to eat every other day.
 

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This idea is communist. It requires a redistribution of wealth on the level of which no capitalist system would be able to see happen and not feel an overwhelming level of RAEG flow through their veins.

Sports players make more money then everyone sans organized religion because people pay good money to watch grown men try and cripple each other in an attempt to get a meaningless prize. This money piles up so fast that the only way the people owning a sports team could spend it is by giving it away liberally. Add in the trading wars, and you end up with people pretty much contesting to see who can throw the most money away in a vain attempt to get more money. not to mention the ego of sports players making teams pay them what the player feels he's worth or else he will sit out. No other contract I know of in the world allows a person to ignore what he's been contracted to do without serious repercussions.

Movie stars suffer even more from ego, to the point of people love to see them scoot across the room should they accidentally prick their finger. Hence the exorbatent fees charged.

Doctors and medical practitioners suffer from a conundrum. They have to charge enough to live comfortably and pay off years of medical school, and yet charge as little as to allow the most reasonable ammount of people they can handle, while accepting the fact that some people will be fucked by the system, no matter what.

These factors would require government attention in order to be rectified. This attention would not come from any capitalist government. Communist governments don't work, seriously. The ammount of beuracracy required ensures corruption at some important level, and is difficult to implement, let alone perfect to the degree needed not to have huge loops in the system's coverage.
 

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Think of it in terms of a business solution, these people are getting paid based on how much money they make their employer. In that sense they are getting paid what they are worth.
 

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The thing is though, that the money you pay people has to come from somewhere. It'd be great if we could pay firemen, police and whatnot more than celebrities, but they simply don't produce money in the same way that actors and so on do. The money can't simply be taken from the profits of films and put into the salaries of the most important jobs.
Besides, police might save lives, but they can't do it without the infrastructure and society that we already have in place. In that respect, nearly every job is as important as every other.
 

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in all fairness the entertainers earn a larger wage because the bring in alot more business to their employer than a doctor and there are a lot less high paid actors than there are doctors, so their skill is more rare than a doctors
 

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Suilenroc said:
6unn3r said:
that's messed up dude, do you have a link to were you got this info? i'd like to read it.
Sure do:

http://www.anorak.co.uk/174270/money/mod-spend-more-on-dog-food-than-on-feeding-soldiers.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/british-soldiers-risk-death-for-less-than-the-minimum-wage-415545.html
 

BonsaiK

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Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
BonsaiK said:
Eri said:
Does it not bug anyone else how much people doing movies, football, sports etc, get paid? They don't save lives, they don't teach children, they don't rescue anything, they don't protect anything. All they do is entertain. Should they be paid decently for it? Sure.

On the other hand, why are doctors, teachers, police, firemen, all paid crap salaries?
WARNING: actual answer to the OP's question follows. Read at your own risk.

The reason why some people get paid millions is because they make millions. The amount that they get paid is small compared to the amount of money that they make for other people. A sporting personality may get paid $2m but he might end up making a shoe company $10m in sales through his name being associated with their product through advertising, plus another $10m through that shoe company buying advertising time on the TV station where his sporting deeds are broadcast. So that $2m is really just him taking his 10% cut out of the $20m he made for hundreds of other people. That shoe company employs a lot of workers, so does the TV station. If Mr. Sport wasn't out there making that $20m every year, then those big companies might have to sack some staff, because they won't be able to afford to pay them any more.

A fireman or a policeman on the other hand doesn't make anybody else any money, so there's no "profit share" to be passed around. Hosing down burning buildings isn't a money-generating activity, in fact it costs money to maintain the fire engines, the hoses, the water supply, etc. Sure, you could pay them more, but where the fuck is that money going to come from? Well they're a public utility paid for by the government, so.... ah, that's right - taxes. You like paying taxes, don't you? Do you still want to pay policemen and firemen more money?
BonsaiK, you are my favorite Escapist poster. Every single post I see from you is well thought out, and gives an actual answer to someone's question.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANYWAYYYYYYYYYYYY... >_>

I can't say much more than that. <_<
Oh cheers. Glad someone's getting something out of my posts.
 

BonsaiK

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Gordon_4 said:
BonsaiK said:
Eri said:
Does it not bug anyone else how much people doing movies, football, sports etc, get paid? They don't save lives, they don't teach children, they don't rescue anything, they don't protect anything. All they do is entertain. Should they be paid decently for it? Sure.

On the other hand, why are doctors, teachers, police, firemen, all paid crap salaries?
Well they're a public utility paid for by the government, so.... ah, that's right - taxes. You like paying taxes, don't you? Do you still want to pay policemen and firemen more money?

I'd happily take an increase in my taxes if it would allow for better funding for emergency services personnel, equipment maintenance, systems infrastructure and most especially wages.
It warms the heart to know that there are people like yourself out there. However, I fear that you are not in the majority.
 

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Suilenroc said:
they'll be paid less as soon as people stop watching them. and yes it irritates me, but it not enough to stop watching movies and sports all together.
Exactly...if you think movie people et al make too much money, stop paying to see movies and own DVDs etc.

Alternatively, restrict this to not paying for the rubbish stuff.