PAYDAY: The Heist

[Fooz]

ok so i got PAYDAY as it seemed like it could be a fucking awesome game, and for the most part it is, you feel pretty cool going around taking hostages and shooting out camera's etc, but the one thing that lets it down is the AI...

i am doing the first mission and later in the mission you blow a hole in the wall to escape, when you go through it there are some tougher enemies, the squad doesn't follow me through the hole, they just sit outside it shooting people, and when i die, they dont come through it to help me, which really annoys me

also they like to walk infront of your bullets a lot, which another annoying thing, and i know it's mainly supposed to played online, but don't include a single player option if you are not going to programme the AI correctly....

What are your thoughts and experiences with the game?

EDIT: also i was thinking, does anyone else think it would be better if you could pull off the heist without actually getting the police come after you, but make it really hard to actually pull off?

 

[Arachon]

Interestingly enough, I actually ran into one of the developers at a rave party yesterday. Haven't played the game myself though, but apparently it's really difficult?

 

[not_you]

the ai sucks.... that is all...

it's Multi-player or no-player...

 

[kouriichi]

I really like it.

And yes, its VERY hard. You have to play on normal for most of the maps, and Hard for 2 of them.

While you can play with AI, it makes the game much more difficult. The game was really designed to be played with 4 friends. The different scenarios all feel massively different, and you have to approach each in a different way. Though, caution on all levels is advised.

For 20$, its a great game. Almost AAA, except without all the brown and grey.

 

[Woodsey]

Interestingly enough, I actually ran into one of the developers at a rave party yesterday. Haven't played the game myself though, but apparently it's really difficult?

From what I've read it uses an AI director similar to L4D, but its a little unrefined so you can end up with large difficulty spikes in random places. Will hopefully get patched though, I would like to play it.

 

[Valkatron]

This game is a lot of fun with other people, my flatmate and I had a pretty hard time on a normal mission with 2 AI.

 

[Toasty Virus]

I've been wanting to pick it up, but i'm lacking the funds currently

 

[MasterOfWorlds]

I got it, and I play with friends most of the time. However, the times I do play by myself, my AI team actually tends to help out quite a bit. They give me cover when I complete objectives, and keep civilians down when they need to.

I've never had the problem with them not going through the hole with me though. My main problem is that sometimes, they'll be way across the map and take some time to follow me, but you know that you can call them to you, right? They also take a while to follow me down the stairs after the hole, but they almost always do. Maybe it's just a little glitchy.

All in all, I thought it was a pretty good game for $20.

 

[Skops]

I dunno if I wanna say the AI sucks cause when I realised they didn't follow me through the hole and the unlimited amount of cops kept coming, for 40 minutes they held the fort without dying and then I just got bored and finished the level.

Buggy yes, but they can certainly take whatever force the game throws at them chew it up, spit it out and ask for more. I think I even heard one of them yell at some point my favourite line from the 1st Batman movie; "You wanna get nuts?! Well, COME ON! LETS GET NUTS!"

First World Bank is the only one I've been able to beat so far. Slaughterhouse shit gets real. Fun game though, it's essentially L4D but with crime.

 

[Fooz]

I got it, and I play with friends most of the time. However, the times I do play by myself, my AI team actually tends to help out quite a bit. They give me cover when I complete objectives, and keep civilians down when they need to.

I've never had the problem with them not going through the hole with me though. My main problem is that sometimes, they'll be way across the map and take some time to follow me, but you know that you can call them to you, right? They also take a while to follow me down the stairs after the hole, but they almost always do. Maybe it's just a little glitchy.

All in all, I thought it was a pretty good game for $20.

but the problem with them not going through the hole is that i cant get past the rest of the police through the hole lol (i suck guess) if i could get past i wouldnt mind as much

 

[CRRPGMykael]

Looking forward to playing it, and so far my friends have been saying the same things you were. That the AI sucks. I would suppose that they would atleast tweak the AI a few last times before releasing the game, with all the fucking times the release date was postponed but apparently NOP. But HEY, they'll release DLC soon, and that'll probably come with enhancements to the AI, so just stay tuned.

 

[Kopikatsu]

I got it, and I play with friends most of the time. However, the times I do play by myself, my AI team actually tends to help out quite a bit. They give me cover when I complete objectives, and keep civilians down when they need to.

I've never had the problem with them not going through the hole with me though. My main problem is that sometimes, they'll be way across the map and take some time to follow me, but you know that you can call them to you, right? They also take a while to follow me down the stairs after the hole, but they almost always do. Maybe it's just a little glitchy.

All in all, I thought it was a pretty good game for $20.

but the problem with them not going through the hole is that i cant get past the rest of the police through the hole lol (i suck guess) if i could get past i wouldnt mind as much

That's actually a glitch that the developers are working on.

If you visit SPUF's Payday forum, the developers are there and take suggestions and stuff. (They're also jerks sometimes. If you ask 'Has anyone done yet?', like 2-3 of the devs will post 'I HAVE!')

I did play with one of the devs on Slaughterhouse, though. They kicked ass...but we all got wiped three times in a row. So it's meh.

 

[MasterOfWorlds]

but the problem with them not going through the hole is that i cant get past the rest of the police through the hole lol (i suck guess) if i could get past i wouldnt mind as much

Have you tried simply running to the end? I don't think that you actually have to fight them there. And even if you do, draw them through the door on the other side of that room, and it'll bottleneck them in, making for easier kills and less damage for you. In theory anyway. XD

 

[baconbaby299]

It's impossible with the AI, just don't bother. It is a difficult game but pick up 3 mates and you can have a great time. I still haven't done all 6 missions but I've done the first bank about a million times with a different experience.

All in all I like the 4 characters, the voice acting is pretty great and it's very colourful. Reminiscent of Left 4 Dead.

 

[Ironic Pirate]

Interestingly enough, I actually ran into one of the developers at a rave party yesterday. Haven't played the game myself though, but apparently it's really difficult?

Only played the demo, but it didn't seem that bad. I will say that for a budget game, it gets the shooting surprisingly well, better than some triple A games.

 

[Hazy]

Looked into it. Would have bought it immediately if it were SWAT 4 with criminals, but for now, I'm going to wait for it to hit sales.

 

[BreakfastMan]

Only played the PS3 demo, but from the one mission I played, it seemed pretty decent. The level was fairly well designed, and the shooting handled nicely. Good balance of risk and reward too. Would definitely be great to play with friends.

 

[Klepa]

Kind of off-topic, but I can't seem to find this info anywhere.

Does the PC version have LAN play? I'm looking for some games to play at an upcoming LAN party.

 

[atol]

The AI Director thing sucks. In Left 4 Dead, it is designed to let the players breathe and recover from a horde. In Payday, the director just streams endless amounts of cops at you. So you'll often end up in a 5 minute firefight where you can't advance, and you eventually run out of ammo and die a slow death. It's really frustrating and ridiculous to kill 200+ cops in a firefight and... they... just... keep... coming...