PC Gamers: Do You Have Trouble With Console Shooters?

[Get_A_Grip_]

Not really. I'm semi competent at most shooters on a console.

However when it came to The Last of Us, oh fuck. Made it four hours into the game. Died for the twentieth time in a row because I couldn't aim for the clicker that was making a b-line toward me. Sold the game soon afterwards. Managed to make a profit.

 

[pilouuuu]

I think controllers are even better for third person games, but first person games... I simply can't play with them! It's so hard to aim and so sluggish in comparison to a mechanical keyboard and a good mouse that I simply can't understand how can anyone play with them in an FPS game.

 

[Bestival]

Only played Gears Of War and Bioshock on my Xbox I think, but didn't have trouble in either.

When I played some Far Cry 3 at my cousin on his PS3 though, I couldn't hit fuck all. Hate the PS3 controller.

 

[Naeras]

Neh, console shooters are pretty easy, considering all the auto-aiming the game does for me. I still hate playing any FPS that isn't Metroid Prime on console, though, simply because mouse+keyboard offers aiming/movement options that are both faster and more precise, but I don't find it hard.

 

[Lugbzurg]

I much more prefer playing shooters on a PC. I have been getting a bit better at aiming and shooting on a PS3 through my inFAMOUS collection, though I still miss somewhat frequently. I don't seem to actually have any standard shooters on the system, unless the Uncharted and Jak & Daxter trilogies count, which they might. In fact, the only shooters I have on my GameCube were never even released on PCs, anyway, such as Serious Sam: Next Encounter and GoldenEye: Rogue Agent. If I can get it on PC, I'll get it on PC. As such, I've had to skip out on some good deals for the likes of Bulletstorm and Duke Nukem Forever (yes, I actually want to own both of those).

Then there's also Metroid Prime, if that counts at all. But even that has a Zelda-style auto-aim system.

 

[BartyMae]

Analogue sticks for aiming make me cry. I just can't do it. Every time I've ever tried to do it, whether it's an Elder Scroll game or...uh, some FPS, (I was going to name one specifically, but I can't think of one at the moment that I've actually played for more than ten minutes), I seem to go into full derp mode and can barely even function. Usually makes me dislike the game in question, too, although I know it's not its fault. (On the other hand, a few first person shooters for PC are some of my favorite games...)

 

[talker]

I've never been good on handling the aiming knobs on a xbox, or a ps3 for that matter. I guess it's just another reason I only have a pc

 

[zerragonoss]

I tend to use both controllers and mouse and key broad just fine. I would consider myself quite good at both and would say they are both equally fun. (as a side note i turn auto aim off whenever I see that option.) controllers tend to make for longer more tactical fire fights while mouse and keyboard allow for some more awesome shots. A few notes for using the controller is that you are shooting with timing and both sticks. If you want accurate shots its not about lining up the cross-hairs and than firing, its about firing when they go over the point you want to hit. To do this well it is important to incorporate you movement into aiming, instead of just compensating for it like you can do with a mouse.

 

[Evonisia]

I PC gamed for a few years before getting a console with any shooting on it (that being the 360), I adapted to it just fine, never really saw the major issue with controllers and shooters. Apparently 360/PS3 controllers are so bad it makes the Wii's controller look like it has laser precision.

 

[Yuuki]

Last game I played on a friend's 360 was CoD:Black Ops. I absolutely sucked, couldn't aim for shit with analog sticks. It definitely takes getting used to, and even if I became used to it what's the point because I'd find myself sorely missing the ease & precision of a mouse. Once you've experienced something superior it sucks to go backwards.

When it comes to movement (platformers for example) a controller will always be superior to a keyboard.

Question, what aspect of platformers makes controller superior to keyboard?

 

[NEDGAMER95]

Yes, The movement of your Mouse is much easyer then the console buttoms.

 

[TelHybrid]

Last game I played on a friend's 360 was CoD:Black Ops. I absolutely sucked, couldn't aim for shit with analog sticks. It definitely takes getting used to, and even if I became used to it what's the point because I'd find myself sorely missing the ease & precision of a mouse. Once you've experienced something superior it sucks to go backwards.

I tolerate a controller for shooters if the situation calls for it.

A mouse will always be superior for aiming. When it comes to movement (platformers for example) a controller will always be superior to a keyboard.

Question, what aspect of platformers makes controller superior to keyboard?

An analog stick is more manoeuvrable than WASD (and shift to change movement speed). Try playing a platformer liiiike... Super Meat Boy, or a 3D one like Sonic Generations, or even a 1st person platformer like Mirror's Edge with a keyboard, then a controller.

 

[mirage202]

I struggle with the aiming with the sticks, it just feels so clumsy to me. Only console that I never had issue on shooters with was the N64. For some reason that single stick/trigger combo felt almost as natural as a mouse does.

 

[Yuuki]

An analog stick is more manoeuvrable than WASD (and shift to change movement speed). Try playing a platformer liiiike... Super Meat Boy, or a 3D one like Sonic Generations, or even a 1st person platformer like Mirror's Edge with a keyboard, then a controller.

Ah yep, so for variable movement speeds and a maximum turning speed.

Mirror's Edge wouldn't count because it's a first person with the camera (i.e. angle) controlled by mouse, you can look/turn 180 degrees almost instantly with a mouse while with analog sticks you are limited to a maximum turn speed.

For 2D platformers with variable run speed and driving games (variable accelerator and turn) I can see analog sticks being superior.

 

[Angelous Wang]

The reason you are bad at it is because mentally/biologically speaking they are not the same skill.

Mouse and Keyboard is hand-eye coordination.
Controllers are thumb-eye coordination.

Being good at one does not help at all with the other, might as well compare foot-eye coordination.

Controllers work equally as well as Mouse and Keyboard it's just a case of developing your thumb-eye coordination enough to match your hand-eye.

I myself am actually better at controller shooters than Mouse and Keyboard shooter because I have played them more therefore my thumb-eye coordination is more developed than my hand-eye. Most of the time if my PC shooters have controller support I will use it or I will even sometimes create my own with xpadder.

Not that my hand-eye is bad but it's just a case of 15ish years of development vs 5ish years of development.

 

[Weaver]

Yes, I suck at aiming with a controller.

 

[AnthrSolidSnake]

No, but to be fair I didn't get into PC gaming until 2006, and even then I used gamepads with most of my games (I think the only exceptions were The Sims and Diablo 2). However, recently I've been using KB/M, and even though I've been using it alternatively for the last year, I still have trouble with mouse aiming. For example, I just bought Counter Stike: GO, and I am TERRIBLE with mouse aiming. Expert bots? Get my ass kicked. Online? Get my ass kicked. With a gamepad, I did a bit better, but since everyone jumps around so much (I do mean jump, like bunny hop.), it makes it hard to compensate for both vertical and horizontal aiming. I'm hoping getting a better mouse will help a bit, since I am using a rather small, wireless mouse, but it's actually a pretty decent one.

 

[LAGG]

The reason you are bad at it is because mentally/biologically speaking they are not the same skill.

Mouse and Keyboard is hand-eye coordination.
Controllers are thumb-eye coordination.

Playing with an arcade stick would be just as bad as playing with thumb sticks or any other form of deadzone-based input method for looking and aiming around. The reason is because there's many layers of translations between what the hands do and what the game responds. Mouse is position-to-angle, sticks are direction-acceleration-speed-time-to-angle.

Using thumb is just a easy and precise as using wrist (even your head or your foot can be just as fast and precise). I can attest that, check this post is all there: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/jump/9.828244.20149892

Note: I will be doing "FPS with foot" experiments don't doubt it! o/

 

[Sandjube]

I have to turn the sensitivity up to ludicrous heights, but once I got used to that it was alright. It was getting a bit annoying having to hold a fucking joystick for like 2 seconds to go around once. Pc controls still blow 'em out of the water for me.

 

[darron13]

You have to get used to it. I play on both with no problems, but I have PC only friends who can't play console shooters for shit. The whole two analog thing baffles their hands xD