In a word: You said it.ZeroMachine said:This "Origin is EVIL" stuff all fear mongering or something?
You could just, you know, get them for consoleClive Howlitzer said:I'm not. I had a short experience with it with Battlefield 3 and it turned into an absolute nightmare that I chronicled in another thread. Long story short, I uninstalled everything and have no intention of using Origin or any Origin exclusive game. This makes me sad because I want to play Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age 3 when it comes along.
Sadly, unless EA works out their issues with Steam, or makes their games not require Origin. I am going to have to say no.
hear hearIstvan said:It makes it easier to boycut anything connected to EA, so in that respect I am very pleased with it.
Most likely not. I'm sure someone has covered it earlier in this thread (honestly I didn't read most of it... just replied to the initial question), but EA and Valve had something of a tiff, and EA pulled a couple of their big titles off of Steam and no longer releases new titles on the platform. Some of their old stuff is still available (I assume contractually), but the odds of ME3 being on Steam are pretty negligible at this point.80sGuy said:Wait a second........I'm going to need Origin for Mass Effect 3?!!??
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OMG....I'm getting chest pains....seriously...I won't be able to get it on Steam at least?
Which Valve may do as well with Steam. Welcome to the world of licenses.veloper said:The difference with origin is permanent game bans and spyware.
I do hate it how retail DOW2 always requires Steam (and games for windows live both), but that's just 1 shared point against Steam.
Final consideration here is that EA have the most terrible track record of any publisher (DRM, take overs and bans all considered), while Valve are relatively clean. It wouldn't surprise me if EA would still make due on that EULA clause to remove every purchased game after 2 years.
I don't own any consoles as I have not been a console gamer since the PS2 era. There aren't enough console exclusives to warrant the purchase for me either.Tjoubou said:You could just, you know, get them for consoleClive Howlitzer said:I'm not. I had a short experience with it with Battlefield 3 and it turned into an absolute nightmare that I chronicled in another thread. Long story short, I uninstalled everything and have no intention of using Origin or any Origin exclusive game. This makes me sad because I want to play Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age 3 when it comes along.
Sadly, unless EA works out their issues with Steam, or makes their games not require Origin. I am going to have to say no.![]()
Haha I know how you feel. It was the first (and last) game I ever pre-ordered. I mean it wasn't that bad, I was just bothered by lack of story and constant recycling. Bioware did a good job with creating a "unique" setting and world in the first game, but did little to expand on it, or existing characters in expansion and sequel.Calibretto said:LOL I am totally with you with that one.CoL0sS said:If Dragon Age 3 turns out to be any good and not a *expletive deleted* DA2 was I'll consider it. Until then, not a chance. Solidarity & spite.
I have taken up the exact same position because I was so butthurt at Dragon Age 2's quality.
For me it was the biggest travesty I had to ever experienced in gaming and I preordered that shit.
So valve may legally do it, but haven't, while EA have been locking customers out of the games they bought, since the beginning of origin already.Keava said:Which Valve may do as well with Steam. Welcome to the world of licenses.veloper said:The difference with origin is permanent game bans and spyware.
I do hate it how retail DOW2 always requires Steam (and games for windows live both), but that's just 1 shared point against Steam.
Final consideration here is that EA have the most terrible track record of any publisher (DRM, take overs and bans all considered), while Valve are relatively clean. It wouldn't surprise me if EA would still make due on that EULA clause to remove every purchased game after 2 years.
C. NO GUARANTEES.
VALVE DOES NOT GUARANTEE CONTINUOUS, ERROR-FREE, VIRUS-FREE OR SECURE OPERATION AND ACCESS TO STEAM, THE SOFTWARE, YOUR ACCOUNT AND/OR YOUR SUBSCRIPTIONS(S).
13. TERM AND TERMINATION
Either you or Valve has the right to terminate or cancel your Account or a particular Subscription at any time. You understand and agree that the cancellation of your Account or a particular Subscription is your sole right and remedy with respect to any dispute with Valve.
C. Termination by Valve.
2. In the case of a one-time purchase of a product license (e.g., purchase of a single game) from Valve, Valve may choose to terminate or cancel your Subscription in its entirety or may terminate or cancel only a portion of the Subscription (e.g., access to the software via Steam) and Valve may, but is not obligated to, provide access (for a limited period of time) to the download of a stand-alone version of the software and content associated with such one-time purchase.
Origin at least promises 2 years. Steam can do it at any point in time.
It's also much easier to be clean when You are single developer/publisher studio and put out 1 game every hundred years, while EA has multiple studios below them and puts out several games a year. Easy to not be guilty if You don't do anything![]()
What do you expect?it uses steam,then it requires steam,can't be any simpler. Also for Game like Dow2,Rage,and those who require steam, blame the developers or the publishers for making the game steam-exlusive.Keava said:Again. Can say the same about Steam. You can't play Valve game without Steam because they all use Steamworks. You can't play several of other games without Steam either (DoW2, Civ 5, Rage, Skyrim to name a few). How is it really all that different?
There is a diffrence,valve could ban me,but i trust them not to(unless i do something that terrible),and unlike EA with it's great banning system,even if you do something wrong on the forums they'll ban you,for all of your origin games(all your money spended gone to waste), and steam has different accounts for the forums and the program itself(if forums are hacked then it won't effect my steam account).Also when "banned" by valve you just can't play on VAC-servers, or suspended.Keava said:Which Valve may do as well with Steam. Welcome to the world of licenses.veloper said:The difference with origin is permanent game bans and spyware.
I do hate it how retail DOW2 always requires Steam (and games for windows live both), but that's just 1 shared point against Steam.
Final consideration here is that EA have the most terrible track record of any publisher (DRM, take overs and bans all considered), while Valve are relatively clean. It wouldn't surprise me if EA would still make due on that EULA clause to remove every purchased game after 2 years.
C. NO GUARANTEES.
VALVE DOES NOT GUARANTEE CONTINUOUS, ERROR-FREE, VIRUS-FREE OR SECURE OPERATION AND ACCESS TO STEAM, THE SOFTWARE, YOUR ACCOUNT AND/OR YOUR SUBSCRIPTIONS(S).
13. TERM AND TERMINATION
Either you or Valve has the right to terminate or cancel your Account or a particular Subscription at any time. You understand and agree that the cancellation of your Account or a particular Subscription is your sole right and remedy with respect to any dispute with Valve.
C. Termination by Valve.
2. In the case of a one-time purchase of a product license (e.g., purchase of a single game) from Valve, Valve may choose to terminate or cancel your Subscription in its entirety or may terminate or cancel only a portion of the Subscription (e.g., access to the software via Steam) and Valve may, but is not obligated to, provide access (for a limited period of time) to the download of a stand-alone version of the software and content associated with such one-time purchase.
Origin at least promises 2 years. Steam can do it at any point in time.
It's also much easier to be clean when You are single developer/publisher studio and put out 1 game every hundred years, while EA has multiple studios below them and puts out several games a year. Easy to not be guilty if You don't do anything![]()