Well M$ is already giving away windows 10 for free to win8/7 users for the first year. So I don't know that they really need more to do much more to convince most users to upgrade. Especially after win8.AT God said:
PC gamers won't have to pay for Xbox Live
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I don't think devs are dumb enough to fall for this shit twice. A lot of them hated GFWL just as much as we did, and I am sure they don't appreciate needing to patch all the games that GFWL bricked since it died.
I'm honestly not all that concerned.
I'm honestly not all that concerned.
you're changing the goal posts, pc users get multiplayer free, while silver users do not, and even then, that's not including all other functions outside of gaming that you have on a pc right off the bat to keep the comparison within the topic at hand. "all the other benefits of a gold membership"...besides the "free games with gold", which even then, isn't that great, what other benefits do they get that pc users do not for free? It's been a while, but do they still hide netflix behind the pay wall, or do silver users finally get to use it too?Jamash said:
and games for gold is a relatively new concept that microsoft *had* to come up with to stay competitive, before that you were paying for multiplayer and being able to use your netflix account, which is laughable at best when you're already paying for the netflix subscription and internet.
They are not free games, if your account goes silver, the game stays on your hard drive but cannot be accessed. You have to keep paying for gold membership, they are free rentals not free games.Jamash said:
On topic: Microsoft needs to get out of gaming all together, PC with any luck will no longer even need them to provide the OS. It's too late to abandon the console sinking ship Microsoft.
They done it because xbox live couldn't compete with Steam if it cost money, when steam is essentially a slightly worse but free version of xbox live.
As for the reimbursement... why on earth would they owe us anything? They offered xbox live for a certain price, and we took it. Just because they make it free now doesn't mean our old deal is void.
As for the reimbursement... why on earth would they owe us anything? They offered xbox live for a certain price, and we took it. Just because they make it free now doesn't mean our old deal is void.
Wait.... what? Since when would we be using Xbox Live in the first place? I must have missed something. Is this Microsoft's answer to Steam, or is it something that's actually going to be mandatory with Windows 10?
I think you're confusing Games with Gold with PS Plus' Instant Games Collection. IGC is like that. GwG is not. With GwG, once you have downloaded the game or even started the download of the free game just once, it stays in your collection permanently. Even if you have a Silver membership, you'll still have complete access to the games you got with GwG.Strelok said:
TL;DR - With GwG, you download it, it's yours.
Xbox live for PC = terrible idea hopefully its ignored like it should be. If it ever gains any sense of popularity then expect MS to bring out their thumb screws and milk you for as much as they think they can.
It depends on how you view PS+ now. I see that it was just a foot in the door for them to begin charging for online play. A bait and switch, once they have you subscribed, then they start adding "features" to your subscription. If PS+ had started as an online paywall, I doubt it would have gotten so much praise.
Interesting isn't it that the praise has carried over to this gen even though it is really just Live Gold but I guess that was the point of launching it like they did only to add in the online paywall later.
Wouldn't surprise me a bit if Microsoft added that "feature" to Windows Live 2 in the future, once they have enough people on the hook.
On the 360, the Games with Gold are yours to keep.Strelok said:They are not free games, if your account goes silver, the game stays on your hard drive but cannot be accessed. You have to keep paying for gold membership, they are free rentals not free games.Jamash said:
On topic: Microsoft needs to get out of gaming all together, PC with any luck will no longer even need them to provide the OS. It's too late to abandon the console sinking ship Microsoft.