PC Gaming is Cool And All... But...

[scott91575]

If you prefer a console just because... Great! Play them games and have fun! But stop with the propaganda and myth spreading because a console is not better than a PC, it is just your preferance and nothing more.

So people can't claim a console is 'better' (subjective opinion, no right answer) because it's propaganda, but you can happily say that PCs are better?

OT: Consoles and PCs both have their advantages and disadvantages. These discussions are kind of pointless, because at the end of the day it's all down to personal preference. And as I've said above, one platform is not better than another, it all comes down to what an individual wants.

It's not the statement "I like console/PC better." It's the "PC games don't play right away" (I don't have the widespead issue people here claim) or "the controller is better" (which can be used on PC) or "installation takes longer" (installation reduces in game loading), "PC's need constant hardware updates", etc. That is the stuff I have been responding to. If people prefer consoles, fantastic. Yet I hate it when people state things about PC's that simply are not true.

As I stated earlier, allowing those misconceptions to go unchallenged hurts the platforms and the community.

 

[b3nn3tt]

If you prefer a console just because... Great! Play them games and have fun! But stop with the propaganda and myth spreading because a console is not better than a PC, it is just your preferance and nothing more.

So people can't claim a console is 'better' (subjective opinion, no right answer) because it's propaganda, but you can happily say that PCs are better?

OT: Consoles and PCs both have their advantages and disadvantages. These discussions are kind of pointless, because at the end of the day it's all down to personal preference. And as I've said above, one platform is not better than another, it all comes down to what an individual wants.

It's not the statement "I like console/PC better." It's the "PC games don't play right away" (I don't have the widespead issue people here claim) or "the controller is better" (which can be used on PC) or "installation takes longer" (installation reduces in game loading), "PC's need constant hardware updates", etc. That is the stuff I have been responding to. If people prefer consoles, fantastic. Yet I hate it when people state things about PC's that simply are not true.

As I stated earlier, allowing those misconceptions to go unchallenged hurts the platforms and the community.

To be honest, I don't know how games play on PCs, I haven't played one since the first Shogun: Total War. I completely agree with you though, misconceptions should be corrected, so that everyone better knows what they're talking about. My problem lies in the fact that people on both sides claim that their choice is somehow 'better', when that simply can't be the case, as it's a subjective opinion.

 

[Treblaine]

Comparing console specs to PC specs is completely pointless, as what matters isn't some number on a piece of paper, but that the thing can run modern games, which the Xbox360 can and the low end PC can't.

A gamecube can "run" modern games as seen when Black Ops is ported to Wii (which is just a rebranded GC). It's a self fulfilling prophecy to say "consoles can run games that have their standards lowered to their level".

Far more relevant than looking at the shittiest graphics for games, what about the best looking games, can console run these at their intended settings?


Only on PC

360 version is to PC version, as Wii-version is to 360.

If you want to know what my position is like, Imagine if you will someone blindly insisting that the Wii version of Black Ops is the best one and 360/PS3/PC are pointless and all the advantages they have are trivial.

PC is already de-facto a WHOLE GENERATION ahead of PS3/360, so if we could just escape from consoles artificially low standard then no, then they CANNOT run modern games. Not without nerfing them to run on 6 year old tech, just like what Wii did with COD.

Industry developers have already come out and said PC is already a whole generation ahead of current consoles:

http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/egtv-pc-gaming-special-part-1

this is a LIVE RENDER that Epic Games made to run on PC, they themselves call it next-gen:

Yeah, but for how long? The problem with that "look here is a cheap PC" argument is that those cheap PCs won't be good for gaming for very long. If you buy cheap, you will need upgrade a lot sooner then with an expensive box.

Look you are not FORCED to upgrade. Just because a game is released with "Ultra Graphics" and you can only run the game on Very High, that does NOT somehow mean that your PC running Crysis on Very High is equivalent to consoles medium-high settings.

The advantage which that Cheap-PC has over 360/PS3 it will ALWAYS HAVE! It will only change when Xbox releases a new iteration of the Xbox 720 or something which doesn't seem to be any time soon, E3 2010 they said they were half way through the 360's cycle and they don't double-dip.

If you want to widen the gap between PC and Console EVEN FURTHER with more hardware upgrades, fine. But Don't act like it is necessary to do that to "keep pace" with Console that have been stagnant for the past 6 years.

An aim-bot is even better then a mouse, does that make it more fun? Precision isn't everything.

But aim bot is not YOU aiming. That's not precision or accuracy, that is cheating as it gets something else to do the work for you.

Precision is the ergonomics being high enough to translate your will quickly and precisely without ambiguity. Auto-aim only serves the computer program's "will" that hopefully aims at what you want to aim for, while you just watch it.

There is more to aiming that snapping to the target
-leading target for slower projectiles
-targeting the ground/wall with explosives for area effect
-quickly and dynamically switching targets
-snap movements (rocket jump)
-quick turns

You know what is fun? You yourself consciously guiding the reticule onto the target with nothing else interfering with the vector, not stick and 2nd-order thumbstick obfuscating input, not aim assist dragging aim to where it thinks it wants it. I can use a thumbstick but I cannot enjoy it quite lie the sublime joy of a mouse that helps create the highest level of immersion in games.

 

[Treblaine]

Why do people still care about PC vs. Console? I don't see the big deal. As long you're having fun, what does it matter what platform it's on?

It's called progress.

Without it we'd still be on the NES.

And this generation in particular the Big Two seem intent on dragging this generation out to a decade and Nintendo have entirely skipped it altogether.

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"Nintendo have entirely skipped it"

Right now PC seems to be the only platform actually making progress, it's been 6 years since Xbox 360, graphics have moved on a LOOOONG way since then.


Modern consoles (and even it appears, the Wii-U) are not capable of Hardware tesselation.

That is where the GPU is able to add more geometry than the CPU actually calculates which is somewhat limited and has more important things to manage like AI and physics. This is hugely important in both broadening and deepening the toolbox for game artist but at the same time frees up CPU to do more complex things.

There are so many things that you simply cannot do without the modern tech that PC has, and more than tech, other aspects too:
-unlicensed platform mean developers can release games without a fee, Minecraft collects 100% of revenue.
-higher competition per system. GoG, Steam and now Origin compete on one PC while Xbox locks you into XBLA there is only detached competition with PSN
-Far more flexible controls with mouse + keyboard but also more importantly gamepad, or wheel, whatever appropriate
-games 100% install makes them far easier to patch and follow major ongoing updates like TF2's continued evolution
-Modding is a major creative force that has kept CS alive and strong for 12 year now, it holds devs to a high standard. Look when modding is removed, they get away with De-facto mods as we see with MW3. It looks exactly like a MW2 expansion pack.
-Pace of development not held back by major manufacturers who want perpetual revenue streams (Xbox's overly long life), the USERS control that with the hardware they get from many manufacturers.

 

[Throwitawaynow]

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I'm just going to give you some times that apply only to me and why I believe consoles are more functional in that they require less time to play. Just from a time perspective.

For midnight launches I have been able to get there and back within 30min. The drive is 10 minutes to it 10 minutes back, and at a max 10 minutes while there as I don't show up early. Updating a xbox 360 game doesn't take longer than 5 minutes. If it isn't a midnight launch for those that say you need a pre-order I have NEVER not gotten a game because I didn't pre-order. Midnight launches gives u a free pre-order if you do go.

I just opened steam and installing Civ 5 requires 55 min. Installing team fortress 2 is 1 hour 5 minutes. Both take longer than driving to retail. EditGetting everything ready for Witcher 2, Mass Effect 2, WoW, SC2, LoL, pretty much any game that isn't on steam took significantly longer. Steam is pretty amazing for their speed, and ease of use. However getting everything ready for torchlight still took a minute and 51 seconds. Longer than black ops.

I just timed it and booting up my xbox 360, and getting in game to a Black Ops ground war took 1 minute and 34 seconds. Booting my computer and then getting in game to WoW took 2 minutes and 26 seconds. Booting my computer and then getting in game to LoL took 5 minutes and 53 seconds. Everything took longer than the console equivalent.

Someone mentioned HoN, it also requires login and it's not the queues that kill u, it's the loading screen where you wait for others. Someone mocked my hard drive space requirement, did you not see that I said with new ones it doesn't matter, but uninstalling games you no longer play does? Someone was skeptical about my connection, I have a great connection, no matter what game I play as long as I am on a us server I'm not above 100ms.

I didn't back up my files and that was terrible of me. I've recently remedied this. However backing up files does not help the actual time it takes to get back the downloads and installations of games even if they were backed up. Because you end up having to download it back when restoring.

I have the new 250gb xbox 360 it doesn't make noise and I have 0 space problems. Seems like a lot of people missed the part where I said that space isn't an issue anymore.

People were also misconstruing my point of loading. I never meant the loading screens in game where you have to load up a new instance, or the loading screen in Fallout NV when you leave a building. I meant the time it takes to start a game and then start playing it. Hope this was edited correctly and I responded to those I quoted adequately.

Wow third edit, but someone mentioned a 5TB hard drive. Looking up 5TB hard drive only came up with this massive external thing for $875. New egg only goes up to 3 for internal and they're all over $150, 100 euro, 92 pounds. Someone said 2TB for 40 pounds, or was that euro? Those are going for $100, 70 euro, 60 pounds.

 

[Asti]

I always feel playing a game on PC is a more intimate thing. It feels more like reading a book whereas playing on consoles feels more like watching TV. (I think it's a matter of distance to the display and how you tend to sit by yourself on a chair in front of your TV but you can share your sofa with other people.)

Also: I suck at playing with controlers.

 

[Treblaine]

How cheap are consoles, really?

Say you bought an Xbox 360 in 2007, the 20GB model because frankly the Arcade is too hamstrung by no-hard-drive and Elite model was always ridiculously priced. Still at £280 the Premium variant wasn't cheap. But what added costs would be incurred of its life:

-Xbox Gold for 5 years = 5x £40 = £200
-necessary 120GB Hard Drive = £80
-Attach rate of 9.0, therefore with £10 premium per game over PC = £90 extra spent for same number of games
-Wifi adapter I had to drill a hole in the floor but I did use Ethernet.
-Play charge kit = £15 (not as expensive as batteries)

Total = £665

Average exchange rate with US dollar since 2007 has been around 1.8 so that's about $1200 to give a more widely understood metric. That is VERY expensive! You could get a wickedly powerful PC for that amount of money.

There are other cost savings going with PC like how you have both a computer AND a gaming platform in one. With a 360 you'd have to spend another £250 just to get a separate shitty PC.

Backwards compatibility is excellent on console, you effectively get HD-remakes for free at old prices, while console seems to only re-release them as £40 disc sets.

The savings on games is obvious but more than that are the free commercial games and total conversion mods. Even if that isn't you cup of tea there is no better value out there for games than Steam Sales.

You also get far more for less, beyond games running at far higher resolution and framerate they usually come packed with extra features like Dedicated Servers for Black Ops which REALLY saves that game. That and the PC more often continuing the good practice of dealing out map-packs universally across the community without premium pricing that divides the community. Valve have a free hand on this with Steam but not on XBL.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

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I'm just going to give you some times that apply only to me and why I believe consoles are more functional in that they require less time to play. Just from a time perspective.

For midnight launches I have been able to get there and back within 30min. The drive is 10 minutes to it 10 minutes back, and at a max 10 minutes while there as I don't show up early. Updating a xbox 360 game doesn't take longer than 5 minutes. If it isn't a midnight launch for those that say you need a pre-order I have NEVER not gotten a game because I didn't pre-order. Midnight launches gives u a free pre-order if you do go.

I just opened steam and installing Civ 5 requires 55 min. Installing team fortress 2 is 1 hour 5 minutes. Both take longer than driving to retail. EditGetting everything ready for Witcher 2, Mass Effect 2, WoW, SC2, LoL, pretty much any game that isn't on steam took significantly longer. Steam is pretty amazing for their speed, and ease of use. However getting everything ready for torchlight still took a minute and 51 seconds. Longer than black ops.

I just timed it and booting up my xbox 360, and getting in game to a Black Ops ground war took 1 minute and 34 seconds. Booting my computer and then getting in game to WoW took 2 minutes and 26 seconds. Booting my computer and then getting in game to LoL took 5 minutes and 53 seconds. Everything took longer than the console equivalent.

Someone mentioned HoN, it also requires login and it's not the queues that kill u, it's the loading screen where you wait for others. Someone mocked my hard drive space requirement, did you not see that I said with new ones it doesn't matter, but uninstalling games you no longer play does? Someone was skeptical about my connection, I have a great connection, no matter what game I play as long as I am on a us server I'm not above 100ms.

I didn't back up my files and that was terrible of me. I've recently remedied this. However backing up files does not help the actual time it takes to get back the downloads and installations of games even if they were backed up. Because you end up having to download it back when restoring.

I have the new 250gb xbox 360 it doesn't make noise and I have 0 space problems. Seems like a lot of people missed the part where I said that space isn't an issue anymore.

People were also misconstruing my point of loading. I never meant the loading screens in game where you have to load up a new instance, or the loading screen in Fallout NV when you leave a building. I meant the time it takes to start a game and then start playing it. Hope this was edited correctly and I responded to those I quoted adequately.

Want shorter loading times get a SSD drive for you OS and then boot times will be tiny. Also all the points they were making about Midnight launch games were they can be pre loaded which they can so you let them load during the day when you aren't doing anything and giving a waiting time of boot->load game->play->win. So yes if you stick your hand into your pocket for a SSD which are starting to come down in price a lot from what they were you can basically no load times even less than consoles.

 

[scott91575]

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I'm just going to give you some times that apply only to me and why I believe consoles are more functional in that they require less time to play. Just from a time perspective.

For midnight launches I have been able to get there and back within 30min. The drive is 10 minutes to it 10 minutes back, and at a max 10 minutes while there as I don't show up early. Updating a xbox 360 game doesn't take longer than 5 minutes. If it isn't a midnight launch for those that say you need a pre-order I have NEVER not gotten a game because I didn't pre-order. Midnight launches gives u a free pre-order if you do go.

I just opened steam and installing Civ 5 requires 55 min. Installing team fortress 2 is 1 hour 5 minutes. Both take longer than driving to retail. EditGetting everything ready for Witcher 2, Mass Effect 2, WoW, SC2, LoL, pretty much any game that isn't on steam took significantly longer. Steam is pretty amazing for their speed, and ease of use.

I just timed it and booting up my xbox 360, and getting in game to a Black Ops ground war took 1 minute and 34 seconds. Booting my computer and then getting in game to WoW took 2 minutes and 26 seconds. Booting my computer and then getting in game to LoL took 5 minutes and 53 seconds. Everything took longer than the console equivalent.

Someone mentioned HoN, it also requires login and it's not the queues that kill u, it's the loading screen where you wait for others. Someone mocked my hard drive space requirement, did you not see that I said with new ones it doesn't matter, but uninstalling games you no longer play does? Someone was skeptical about my connection, I have a great connection, no matter what game I play as long as I am on a us server I'm not above 100ms.

I didn't back up my files and that was terrible of me. I've recently remedied this. However backing up files does not help the actual time it takes to get back the downloads and installations of games even if they were backed up. Because you end up having to download it back when restoring.

I have the new 250gb xbox 360 it doesn't make noise and I have 0 space problems. Seems like a lot of people missed the part where I said that space isn't an issue anymore.

People were also misconstruing my point of loading. I never meant the loading screens in game where you have to load up a new instance, or the loading screen in Fallout NV when you leave a building. I meant the time it takes to start a game and then start playing it. Hope this was edited correctly and I responded to those I quoted adequately.

What do you have, an abacus? 1 hour to install TF2? That is laughable. Are you talking about download? As I stated before, for launch titles you can pre download. No download waiting. Only the install which takes, what, 1 minute? I also stated you can go to the store, but I am willing to bet you pay much more for the same title at a brick and mortar store.

Even if you include download time, if you subtract load times from the equation the PC comes out in front. I am willing to bet over the lifetime of a game it comes close to adding up to 1/2 hour of your time sitting there watching a loading screen on a console. The best example I have use is Fallout NV. If you have ever played the game, the load screen is a roulette wheel. I often do not even get through one full revolution on PC (2 seconds, maybe). On console it's upwards of 15 seconds.

As for boot up time, of course a PC will often take longer (although mine takes about 20 seconds from post and about 30-40 seconds total, but I have a SSD drive). It has more programs to load. That is why you let it go into sleep mode. Very little energy used (it might cost you a few cents a month). Or better yet, hibernate which uses essentially zero power. If you wake a PC from sleep mode it takes seconds. For hibernate, maybe 30 seconds. Then starting the game is just a double click away. No putting in a disc. That loading is much faster than console. Plus, as I stated, digital downloads automatically update games. So, on console, you are sitting there waiting for a patch to download while I already have it downloaded and a few seconds to install.

Sorry, but you really seem stuck on console mentalities. I have the ability with PC to get into a game much faster, and when in game it loads much faster. Anything where you compare ques during multiplayer are the servers, and that is not a PC issue. If the game was on console, it would have the same issue. You need to compare the same games. When you do that, you will soon find the PC is way faster. LoL and WoW are not played on consoles, so you cannot compare them. WoW is very unique, and LoL is a Riot game which is probably poorly optimized since it's a tiny studio.

No offense, but if you rethink your ideas on PC's you will find you have much more convenience than consoles.

 

[k-ossuburb]

I think one of the main advantages of a console over a PC (for me at least) is that it takes far less time to switch on a console, play a game, and then shut it off again when you're done. With PCs you've got to wait a while for everything to load up, then find the game then load it and when you want to turn it off you've got the hassle of shutting down the PC.

Some would say that it's better to just keep your PC running and sadly that's not an option for me, I've got to keep my power usage to a minimum because electricity isn't cheap. Oh yeah, and the environment yaddah yaddah.

 

[Treblaine]

For midnight launches I have been able to get there and back within 30min. The drive is 10 minutes to it 10 minutes back, and at a max 10 minutes while there as I don't show up early. Updating a xbox 360 game doesn't take longer than 5 minutes. If it isn't a midnight launch for those that say you need a pre-order I have NEVER not gotten a game because I didn't pre-order. Midnight launches gives u a free pre-order if you do go.

I just opened steam and installing Civ 5 requires 55 min. Installing team fortress 2 is 1 hour 5 minutes. Both take longer than driving to retail.

OK, so you live unusually close to a store. Equally someone could live unusually close to a server where they will max-out their bandwidth. Most people live far enough from a store and it is so positioned that the would really struggle to:
-drive there
-find parking (costs how much?)
-Walk the often long distance from store (English high streets and parking are often distant)
-Go through the bullshit of paying and loyalty cards and details
-drive back home (how much fuel have you used? Costs how much?)
-insert disc,
-install and begin update process that paralyses your console
-begin playing

Even if you could do that in an hour, that is an hour of your day taken up working, burning fuel and lining the pockets of car-park owners. If you had just started the download on steam you could do ANYTHING in that hour! You can still use your computer and even play games on it.

And you are also forgetting how Steam lets you pre-download games just before the official release, and on midnight the final key to unlock the contents is opened. Very few console games get a midnight launch treatment but dozens of games on Steam let you download pre-release and play as soon as officially released on midnight of launch day.

Of course buying console games isn't that awful, but it is not a good enough reason by itself to drive into town. If you happen to be going into town to meet friends and buy other things that you cannot really get online like new boots then if you happen to find a game there then that's probably the time to get it.

My problem with the high-street retail model is there is not quite as direct competition.

I can browse and directly compare several online stores like GOG, Steam and now Origin and several others. Even buy directly from developers (minecraft). And I can monitor them daily looking out for deals, while with high-street it is pure chance if I come across a deal.

That's why if I ever buy a game disc I buy it from an online retailer like Amazon or play.com where I can directly compare and see who has truly the best price. That's competition driving down prices. Though I have to wait a few days for the game to actually be delivered the money saved is worth it (and not many console exclusives are really that amazing that I can't wait a day or two).

 

[scott91575]

I think one of the main advantages of a console over a PC (for me at least) is that it takes far less time to switch on a console, play a game, and then shut it off again when you're done. With PCs you've got to wait a while for everything to load up, then find the game then load it and when you want to turn it off you've got the hassle of shutting down the PC.

Some would say that it's better to just keep your PC running and sadly that's not an option for me, I've got to keep my power usage to a minimum because electricity isn't cheap. Oh yeah, and the environment yaddah yaddah.

As I noted, sleep mode uses very little energy (maybe 5 or 6 watts, but probably less than that). Hibernate is close to 0. You only need to restart a computer when you want to install updates to the operating system.

Heck, as long as you keep your XBox plugged in, it uses 2 Watts. You need to unplug it to get 0.

 

[orangeban]

Eh, I've always lived with computers. I switched to consoles for a bit but I've drifted back to PCs. The main draw of the PC for me is that the games are cheaper and I can use Steam on them.

 

[RicoADF]

lol if you didnt want to start a flame war about this why start?
you have 3k+ posts...havent you already seen topics like this 30 gazzilion times?

The lines are drawn simply, PCs are best overall, however Consoles are good for action / party games that just dont make sence on the PC.

Errr wrong

PC's allow more modification and for FPS and RTS the mouse and keyboard are better controls in general (also flight sims are better if you have a joystick).

Consoles however require no mucking around with hardware/software compatibility and are generally better for racing & action games.

Both have games of all genres that are good and work well on them, so the above generalisations are just that.

Consoles however do have the advantage of portability and thus are easy to take from place to place as long as there's a TV and power outlet about.

I have a PC and PS3 and use them both equally, and the differences are getting so small it's bluring the line quite abit.

 

[Baneat]

Want so see why cross-platform multiplayer can't work on certain genres?

Shadowrun.

 

[Throwitawaynow]

First of all you mention launches, steam is faster than that as you can pre-load a game before it is release so once again. Retail takes 30 minutes, steam takes 0 as the game is already there whent the game is released.

I was close about the 2TB drive, I found one for £48 which is closer to my estimate than yours.

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/components/harddrives-internal/sataover1tb/HD204UI.jsp

I concede to pre-loading. Not sure if I did that for witcher 2 or cataclysm, but I do know there was a wait for both when everything was ready. There's always the fact that getting it started a few times for my setup would negate the 30 min investment but that's separate so it shouldn't matter.

I feel kind of ripped off I know I payed around that amount around January for a 1TB hard drive. Mine was completely destroyed with the.... idk disk reader hopping around inside. Was just so frustrated and just wanted it taken care of by someone else. I'm not very knowledgeable about computer hardware.

What do you have, an abacus? 1 hour to install TF2? That is laughable. Are you talking about download?
No offense, but if you rethink your ideas on PC's you will find you have much more convenience than consoles.

Yes, I meant download. My ideas of PC's? I play PC more than I play console and there is a lot of hoops you have to jump through to play certain games that I find completely ridiculous.

If you want to really compare same games then fine ME2. Servers based on them, several different log ins to get the game, different pages for DLC and game. Troubleshooting and editing game files to solve bugs. There is a massive hassle for trying to get everything to work correctly for your particular system.

Yes once you get everything tuned your computer ends up giving you better performance but the amount of stuff you have to do is ridiculous. Which makes the simple put in disk, patch, play very appealing. You don't have to worry about updating your graphics card for that new game, or the daunting prospect of building a custom PC if something terrible happens (My motherboard broke once, and I decided to build a custom PC. Took several weeks as it was my first time and had almost no idea what I was doing.) People talk about failure rates in consoles but I've only had 1 console break whereas I've had motherboard, hard drive twice, graphics card twice, disk drive twice, and audio cards all break. And trouble shooting to try and find out what actually broke takes time. Plus seeing as how everything but the disk drive went for about the amount as a console if they're good parts it makes more sense to get a console.

I started out with counter strike lan parties at wizard of the coast on the weekends when I was 10 till I got my own PC and played diablo 2 all day. I'm not some console fan boy who thinks PCs are terrible, PCs are remarkably better at almost everything comparatively to consoles. However, I have never been more frustrated with technology than I have with trying to get my PC to work for what I need it to do. Or when I have to do all these redundant checks just to play my game. As a whole ease of use and time spent fighting the tech to work I have seen consoles come out on top from that perspective.

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Don't want you to think I'm ignoring you, it's just that I have put everything in this post as I have to add or defend my position from simply my perspective.

Again, added different people, and edited several times. Hope everything came out coherently, even if my opinions seem wrong to those I have quoted = ).

 

[scott91575]

lol if you didnt want to start a flame war about this why start?
you have 3k+ posts...havent you already seen topics like this 30 gazzilion times?

The lines are drawn simply, PCs are best overall, however Consoles are good for action / party games that just dont make sence on the PC.

Errr wrong

PC's allow more modification and for FPS and RTS the mouse and keyboard are better controls in general (also flight sims are better if you have a joystick).

Consoles however require no mucking around with hardware/software compatibility and are generally better for racing & action games.

Both have games of all genres that are good and work well on them, so the above generalisations are just that.

Consoles however do have the advantage of portability and thus are easy to take from place to place as long as there's a TV and power outlet about.

I have a PC and PS3 and use them both equally, and the differences are getting so small it's bluring the line quite abit.

You can get portable gaming PC's or even a gaming laptop (although the cost for those are high) which are easy to transport and can be hooked up easily to a tv (although a tv with a HDMI input makes it really easy).

 

[chronicfc]

For starters, they're machines designed to play all sorts of games and whatnot. And these games that go multi-platform to the PC community, typically look as good, or almost as good as PC games, without the need to buy some new high performance parts every couple of years.

Consoles (to me) are preferred because they tend to be cheaper to start, and don't need to be upgraded constantly. It takes about 6 years, give or take, before a new generation of consoles is released and takes over the current gen.

I agree, although the best part about PC gaming is when you purchase an old game, so your computer can run it easily, and then mod it so the graphics are enhanced and whatnot, and so you also have awesome mods. I did this recently with Deus Ex (a game I've never played before) and KoTOR2, a game I have played on console, but heard so much about "cut content" that is restored in a mod for the PC version.