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RaikuFA

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Alright, so my comp refuses to start. It goes to "starting windows" then just... stops right there. I looked online and it says start it up in safe mode but when I try to, same problem. Also from looking online it seems that it could've been caused by the update I got the night before.

Anyone know the issue and the solution?
 

Morgoth780

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Try reinstalling windows?

I honestly don't really have any ideas other than that. Maybe you could try booting a linux distro off a USB.
 

Maximum Bert

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Had this problem twice before once the hardware was failing and I ended up replacing the laptop second time was on my desktop PC and I dont know what happened I just unplugged everything left it a day and then it worked again. I know thats not exactly helpful but thats what I did and I guess I got lucky although to be fair my PC has been slowly dying a death for a while the new one should be coming tommorow did not really want to waste money on a new one for at least 10 years but dont really have a choice I need it for work and its getting unreliable.
 

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I've fixed issues like this through system repair and/or restore. Failing that, the last time I had that issue it was due to harddrive failure
 

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Which version of windows are you using? If it's windows 7 I might be able to help since I had this problem happen to me about a year ago and somehow managed to fix it (though I don't remember much of the details of how I fixed it).
 

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Had a similar problem a while ago, after some fiddling and a few BSOD errors I figured out that it had some bad RAM and replacing it fixed the problem.

But that's just on my end, you better keep looking for any error messages or something before jumping out and buying new parts.
 

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You could try resetting the BIOS to default settings, if that doesn't do it, just reinstall the OS and all will be fine. Should be done every few years anyway.
 

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Check your hard drive connections, both on your OS drive, and on the motherboard. Also, provide some more information. Hardware specs, OS version.

Worst case scenario, like someone mentioned, make a bootable Linux USB and use that to back your data up onto a separate internal drive, or failing that, an external drive.
 

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You probably have some corrupted system files. There are command line ways to fix it, but it's pretty complicated with an unreasonably low chance of success. Scary thing is, this usually happens when your hard drive is dying. The best thing you can do right now is make a Hiren's Boot disk [http://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/] and get everything you need off of it. You can try to wipe and reinstall Windows while the drive is still working, but I wouldn't trust it much.

Hiren's also has drive health testing tools, so I strongly suggest you put aside an hour to test it.
 

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It could be one of many different things. Unfortunately, without having the computer right in front of me to troubleshoot, there's not much I can do to narrow it down.

Signa said:
You probably have some corrupted system files. There are command line ways to fix it, but it's pretty complicated with an unreasonably low chance of success. Scary thing is, this usually happens when your hard drive is dying. The best thing you can do right now is make a Hiren's Boot disk [http://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/] and get everything you need off of it. You can try to wipe and reinstall Windows while the drive is still working, but I wouldn't trust it much.

Hiren's also has drive health testing tools, so I strongly suggest you put aside an hour to test it.
I second this. Hiren's Boot CD can be very useful in this sort of situation.
 

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This is exactly why you put ONLY your OS and programs on the C: drive and NO DATA. So you can reinstall or format and clean install without losing any data. Just installing Windows on top of itself (reinstall) shouldn't wipe any data though. Another thing everyone should do is image their C: drive so if your OS fucks up, you can just restore a working image, the same reason why running an anti-virus is not needed. Also, there's really no reason to do updates for really anything as long as everything is working fine, I still use a 5 year old version of ZoneAlarm. If you're behind NAT and have a firewall up, you basically have to download a virus your damn self to get one.

The problem is almost certainly a software issue and not hardware. If the hard drive crashed, you wouldn't even get that far to begin with.

Signa said:
You probably have some corrupted system files. There are command line ways to fix it, but it's pretty complicated with an unreasonably low chance of success. Scary thing is, this usually happens when your hard drive is dying. The best thing you can do right now is make a Hiren's Boot disk [http://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/] and get everything you need off of it. You can try to wipe and reinstall Windows while the drive is still working, but I wouldn't trust it much.

Hiren's also has drive health testing tools, so I strongly suggest you put aside an hour to test it.
If the TC can get to a command prompt, inputting "sfc /scannow" will restore system files to their defaults. Also, just access System Restore, which I believe you can do via a Windows disc, will do the trick as well.
 

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I've killed my PCs before by moving non-OS hard drives around. (Thanks, Windows Installer. I'm pretty sure I told you to keep the master boot record on the drive where the OS is going, but you seemed to think better at the time.)(Good rule to follow: only have the drive you want Windows on plugged in during installation. I tend to forget that.)

It could be what others have said; some files have been corrupted. If you haven't made a Hiren's Boot CD (Thanks, Signa, BTW.) yet, you can try using the Windows installation disk to try to troubleshoot and repair your installation. I've had success many times with third party discs for XP and first party discs for XP and 7.

Also, check your bios to see you hard drive's S.M.A.R.T. (Self-Monitoring, Analysis, and Reporting Technology) status. The drive could be failing and/or had a head crash and ruined some stuff Windows doesn't like to loose. My dad dropped his laptop enough times that it finally killed the HDD to the point where reinstalling Windows on the same drive was unreliable.

I just fixed an issue on my sister's laptop where Win 8 wouldn't even try to boot. Tests showed that the hard drive was pretty much dead, despite showing up in the Bios. You might be luckier than her and just have a software issue that can be fixed with just a little headache. Still, back up anything you want, if you do get the old installation working.
 

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the usual best solution when windows fails to start is reinstall as in regards for a cause of the problem it could be way too many things to list here both hardware and software.

PS: Dont touch your bios settings since it sounds you dont know what you doing and changing things there could end up in myriad of problem including frying the PC. Also this board is probably not a good place to look for PC troubleshooting advice. Try tomshardware or sevenforums if you want to actually spend time troubleshooting/repairing instead of reinstall
 

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Phoenixmgs said:
Signa said:
You probably have some corrupted system files. There are command line ways to fix it, but it's pretty complicated with an unreasonably low chance of success. Scary thing is, this usually happens when your hard drive is dying. The best thing you can do right now is make a Hiren's Boot disk [http://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/] and get everything you need off of it. You can try to wipe and reinstall Windows while the drive is still working, but I wouldn't trust it much.

Hiren's also has drive health testing tools, so I strongly suggest you put aside an hour to test it.
If the TC can get to a command prompt, inputting "sfc /scannow" will restore system files to their defaults. Also, just access System Restore, which I believe you can do via a Windows disc, will do the trick as well.
I'm not disagreeing, but I think that's pretty optimistic to expect that to work. sfc /scannow I've only had work when things are fuckered so that Windows Update stops working. Same with system restore. Short of actually manually making a restore point beforehand, the autorepair usually just grinds around for a few minutes for me before throwing its hands up and saying "no dice!"

The complex command line procedure I was talking about involved going into the windows directory, and manually restoring the registry files one-by-one through command line. Pain. In. The. Ass. and if the backups are also messed, it was a waste of time.

@RaikuFA

Phoenixmgs is clearly at least a computer whiz, if not more, and I'm in IT as my job, so you should try to do our steps first. If you get Hiren's, the boot menu will show a TON of options. You only need to worry about the 1st and 3rd. MiniXP mode, or Parted Magic. I lean towards the parted magic because there's a lot more tools and nicer interface. The MiniXP mode is quite stripped down from actual Windows XP.

Hirens is also bootable on a USB drive, but it takes quite a bit of effort to get it to run when you're down a PC. If you have the time and spare USB drive, I'd set one up using the instructions on the site I linked to keep for the next emergency. Good luck and quote me if you get any progress. I'm still open to help if I get more info.

To spell it all out:
1) you are going to NEED a Windows disk. Make sure you have that.
2) Boot to the Windows disk, and use the autorepair option.
3) if that fails, use the command prompt in the Windows disk repair menu to run sfc /scannow
4) if that fails, get Hirens (get it anyway!) and run it in Parted Magic mode
5) Back your shit up!
6) Use the disk health checker tool that's on the default desktop to check the health of the drive
7) Reformat and reinstall windows with the windows disk.
 

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I had this problem once with a netbook. Talked to customer support and after a lengthy troubleshooting conversation it was determined that the motherboard was bad.
 

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Dirty Hipsters said:
Which version of windows are you using? If it's windows 7 I might be able to help since I had this problem happen to me about a year ago and somehow managed to fix it (though I don't remember much of the details of how I fixed it).
Yes, it is windows 7.
 

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I'll elaborate on what someone else said: Try resetting the BIOS.

There should be button or two you can press directly attached to the motherboard. fiddle with them a bit. Make sure you're careful though. Google "How do I reset BIOS Motherboard" to get some exact safety precautions and methods.
 

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How long are you leaving it on the starting windows screen for? I had this problem once in the past, I tried rebooting, but it still just got stuck on starting windows. I ended up just deciding to leave it on the starting widows screen just to see if anything would happen and after about 5-10 minutes it got past the starting windows screen. After that it started up fine and hasn't done it again since.
 

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RaikuFA said:
Alright, so my comp refuses to start. It goes to "starting windows" then just... stops right there. I looked online and it says start it up in safe mode but when I try to, same problem. Also from looking online it seems that it could've been caused by the update I got the night before.

Anyone know the issue and the solution?
I'm looking through the first few posts in reply. I don't want to be a dick, but Jesus-tapdancing-Christ. Seriously. Instead of relying on those answers, just take the fucking thing to a technician.

I'm gonna give you a few answers. You may or may not like them, but here goes. This is from a professional.

While you DO have enough information, you also don't. You're not going to get a definitive 100% answer unless a technician has the computer in his hands. There's one of two problems that could be happening here.

Your hard-disk drive could be failing. As a result, when Windows tries to use it, it gets what is known as a "stop error." And Windows shuts itself down, because it is simply unable to continue. Replacing your Hard-Disk Drive will resolve the issue, but again,m depending on the age of your computer, and your budget, there is no way I can determine what disk drive would be best for you. You will need your Windows Operating System disk and license.

-OR-

There is something positively horribly wrong with the Windows Operating system. A core component may have become corrupt or unreadable. As a result, safe mode also does not work. The repair for this depends on your course of action. If you want to keep your data and files, you can remove the hard-drive, install it in another compatible computer, or use a HDD dock, and transfer your files. This should be a painless process, but if you don't have a dock, it can be a pain in the ass to install your disk in another computer. Once this is complete, (Or you said fuck it, and didn't want to back anything up) Reinstall your HDD in your computer if it was removed. Find either your factory restore disk, or your Windows Operating System disk and license. The re-installation shouldn't be too much of an issue, you just have to remember your drivers. But that can be bypassed with your factory install disk.

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The update has corrupt core system files. Likely due to it being interrupted before the update was complete. (this is somewhat common on laptops in my area.) Get your Windows Disk if you have it, and boot up with that in the drive. It should take you to the windows installer. There will be an option for start-up repair. Follow the prompts, and be extremely patient. (I often just let it go overnight.) If it's still not done in the morning, you likely have a hardware fault. Further testing required.

Now, unless you have the resources at hand for this, Take it to a technician. Seriously, As much as I rip on Staples for bein' as worthless as a bag of hammers, they know how to fix this issue, and they have the tools to check S.M.A.R.T. If you can drive to a store to buy the computer, you can drive to a location where there's a technician. You got to us, you can get to Google.

Edit: Good luck. Sorry if I came off as a dick. Work those three scenarios above from bottom to top. The first option's a bit of a nuke all solution.

CpT_x_Killsteal said:
I'll elaborate on what someone else said: Try resetting the BIOS.

There should be button or two you can press directly attached to the motherboard. fiddle with them a bit. Make sure you're careful though. Google "How do I reset BIOS Motherboard" to get some exact safety precautions and methods.
Edit2: This has positively nothing to do with the issue. He's confirmed he's past the BIOS okay. I would agree with you if some recent changes has been made to said BIOS, but this scenario, getting him to open it up and tinker with the mainboard can likely cause additional issues. Th first problem happened after a windows update, which simply does not have access to the BIOS.