Penn and Teller Take on Violent Video Game Hype

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Nutcase

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As much as I love P&T and Bullshit!, this episode was kinda crap.

Way too much time wasted on the obsessed dude with the "fire triangle". He shouldn't even have gotten on screen.

The Jack Thompson interview was a flop. All they got was Jack's polished presentation. They should have gone more in depth, asked about examples and detail, his past successes and their impact, etc. I guarantee there were lols to be had from successfully getting Jack off his script.

And the anti-game grandma, nothing funny there either. In that case, too, the interviewers could have asked her for some details about what goes on in games and how it relates to the real world.

A non-gamer might walk away from this thinking games are all FPS's and/or that FPS's are all about the violence. P&T could have set the latter point straight by using just a minute to examine things like competition play and showing how it hinges on things like teamwork, spatial skills, reflexes, etc. and any violence that goes on is just a context. It would also have dovetailed nicely into the main point: "look, here's a great (young) Counter-Strike player, he practices six hours a day and isn't a mass murderer, and guess what, none of his teammates and opponents are either".
 

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I love Penn and Teller, but I thought the subject matter might have been to broad for them. They could of brought up examples of positive games like the Viva Pinata series, Little Big Planet and Okami, and their impact. Not all video games are violent fighting and/or shooting games and not all gamers are kids and/or teenagers.
 

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Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBtxB_PnCTo
Also, this episode wasn't on videogames themselves, it was on the basis that videogames=violence, which isn't true. I've seen every episode of P&T:BS!, and this one was awesome!
 

Merteg

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Penn and Teller.....

Is that the show with the huge man and the little man who never talks?
 

Nutcase

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Sigel said:
I love Penn and Teller, but I thought the subject matter might have been to broad for them. They could of brought up examples of positive games like the Viva Pinata series, Little Big Planet and Okami, and their impact. Not all video games are violent fighting and/or shooting games and not all gamers are kids and/or teenagers.
Like demmalition1 said, the show was about *violent* videogames. So the appropriate perspective-widening measure would have been to show a violent videogame (e.g. CS) and show that many people are playing it for purposes other than the violence.
 

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It was a great show, albeit rather short and almost chaotic.
They "should" have made a one-hour special or something to really "examine" people who plays these games competitively and how gamers of all ages (9-30 maybe?) to see how they are outside of their respective games and also how they would react at the firing range.
Wouldn't have hurt to really interview all their guests/victims a bit more since they just felt thrown in without much reason. For example, that old grandma' was on screen for about 40 seconds and didn't really say something that someone else hadn't already said.

That said, the image of that 9 year-old Harrison (?) crying got the point across fairly well.
 

nikomas1

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Well, considering he defends peoples right to enjoy games like Rapelay, You can pretty much guess how this will turn out :)
 

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I've only just started watching this show, and Honestly am surprised I missed it till now. I watched this episode, and was pretty surprised by how intelligent he acted at the end when he talked about the "what If" Videogames came before football

I honestly love this guy, because he looks at things like a thinker and doesn't blindly follow some stupid shit that the masses follow.
 

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I like how the kid cried at the end, it touched my heart and then I laughed, not at the kid, but at Jack Thompson for obvious reasons.

That was a great episode, can't wait what's next.
 

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I actually busted into laughter when they showed the fire triangle guy sitting with his rifle.

But yeah, I agree that they could've gotten much more out of Jack. From the basis of that thing, he might come off as a relatively sane, calm but misguided guy. There was no mention of him getting disbarred either, which should be the big tipoff on how sane he actually is.
 

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The last segment was well thought out. To imagine if video games had been around 100 years and it was football that was just getting popular, parents would be up in arms at all the injuries and deaths caused by the sport. Instead, it's the other way around, and football is encouraged by schools and in the community, not to mention at the pro level with insane multi-million dollar contracts.

How many FPS games are sold every year? Many, many millions. How many school shootings worldwide happen every year? 4.75 every year (from 1996 to 2008). Remember, that's worldwide. I think the major issue is where these kids got guns and why they can't release their anger in a more productive manner rather than what video games they were playing.
 

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I'm guessing that they'll say that Thompson's a prick, violent video games don't lead to violent, murderous people and that violent video games=doomed society is bullshit.


Ba-hhaaaaawwwwaaa, I need showtime. = '[
 

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soren7550 said:
I'm guessing that they'll say that Thompson's a prick, violent video games don't lead to violent, murderous people and that violent video games=doomed society is bullshit.


Ba-hhaaaaawwwwaaa, I need showtime. = '[
demmalition1 posted a link to the show on the first page.
 

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paypuh said:
soren7550 said:
I'm guessing that they'll say that Thompson's a prick, violent video games don't lead to violent, murderous people and that violent video games=doomed society is bullshit.


Ba-hhaaaaawwwwaaa, I need showtime. = '[
demmalition1 posted a link to the show on the first page.
Ah, ok thanks for reminding stupid me for not looking at the post well enough!
 

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soren7550 said:
paypuh said:
soren7550 said:
I'm guessing that they'll say that Thompson's a prick, violent video games don't lead to violent, murderous people and that violent video games=doomed society is bullshit.


Ba-hhaaaaawwwwaaa, I need showtime. = '[
demmalition1 posted a link to the show on the first page.
Ah, ok thanks for reminding stupid me for not looking at the post well enough!
Any time :)