People Don't Like to Think

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Queen Michael

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TheThinker said:
With literature, great books get cast aside for mass marketed trash and the power of conformity. I am a great offender with this one, and the sad thing is I know that I am doing it. I know there are great books out there, but I have not developed enough patience and maturity to take them on yet, so I get my entertainment from more mainstream books. A good author is rarely rich, because their books fill the market for a small group of people who are willing to put in the effort for their novels, which are themselves very rich. I am trying to correct this, I look for hidden gems now, but I'm only just gathering the patience to get through them. They don't always offer quick one liners, but the overall story eclipses those momentarily satisfying lines with meaning. Some might say good art shouldn't be hard to understand, but I'd counter that it should, and that anything that makes you think about or question your current beliefs is something to be held close and cherished. You won't see the benefit of anything unless you put in some effort on your own behalf, but if you do you will be pleasantly surprised.

Then I got to thinking about you, the Escapists. I've made a few threads here and there on various accounts over the past year and a bit, but none of them fail quite so spectacularly as the ones that try and provoke some sort of new discussion. As time wore on, I made the threads simpler and simpler until the other day when I asked a simple question, about how spoiled you were as children. I was amazed to see that only 1 person responded to the poll, and none even replied to the thread. Now, here was I thinking that something that didn't come up in the search function might be appreciated for not being overused, though I'll admit it wasn't the most compelling thread. But then I remembered, people love to say "Search first", and deep down, you all seem to want to hear the same ridiculously narrow threads over and over again out of some weak comfort they give you. You all want to listen to MaxTheReaper say the same nihilistic response to every post. There are maybe 15 different threads that come up in one form or another every day or week.
A penny for your thoughts, if you did?
OK. First of all, I read Dostoyeksky (spelling?), Shakespeare, Dante, Homer, and suchlike. Secondly, my favorite intro is the intro to Perfect day by Miriam Stockley which is as far from the stereotype as you can get. Thirdly, I'm very philosophical. So I don't think what you say applies to me. Yes, I know that's what everyone says, but someone might be right, right?

And concerning what you said about discussions, that's because many don't spend that much time here per visit as far as I know, they just want a short discussion you can drop into and out of. It's simply the wrong place for such a discussion. (Not to mention the enormous amounts of typing you'd have to do.)
 

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I can't believe I had the patience to read that but I still need to read Plato for class.

Anyway. Well. I think a lot, I suppose. I don't think more than other people. All of my friends think a lot too; they have cool thoughts sometimes. I don't think any of them think more than me. They wouldn't have enough time, because time is pretty constant. Some of them are older than me, so I suppose they may have done more thinking. Then again, I'm considering thinking speed as a constant. Thats probably not right.

Why can't I like Beethoven and Green Day equally? Pop punk is not as intricate as Beethoven, but I take issue with your stance that it is always less rewarding.

I enjoyed your rant, you should do more. I don't really know what I think of it, but I enjoyed it.

I suppose you also fall into the category of thinking you're the sane little champion of the world too.
 

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TheThinker said:
Shycte said:
Seriously. You need to learn hoe to get out uor massage in about 1/3 of that text. Nobody likes walls of text.

Anyway. I find it funny that you claim that everybody thinks that they're smarter then everyone else and still so a topic about this? Were you rant way to much and act all samrt.

Irony at it's finest.
Being concise has never been my strong suit, I am working on it but the nature of a cathartic rant is that you keep going until your frustration is spent.

Julianking93 said:
Okay, I'm not going to read that whole thing, but really, all you're saying is that people like to think that they are deep and no one else is like them but, you make a mile long post of your opinions and you're really saying, "No one is as good me"
No, you both missed where I said that this is true of almost everybody, and I acknowledge that I am an offender as well.

How is it irony if I say that everyone, myself included, thinks they are smarter and then state my opinion strongly? This is exactly what could be expected. It would be irony if I said that I wasn't a normal person in this sense, and then proceeded to call myself smart or say my opinion was correct, because this would go against what you might expect from what I have said.
Okay. That must have been where I stopped reading, but you're still admiting to doing something you don't like and I at least respect that you know you're doing it.
 

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I agree that people dont like to think. Thats why so many people disliked the Watchmen movie. "2 much plotz! N33d more headshoots!!" I really enjoyed the novel and the movie BECAUSE of the plot.
 

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Tell you what, I'll see your inane forum griping and raise you a job working with the general public. They'll sidle up to you and smile, then destroy what little faith in humanity you retain.

Seriously though, this thread is a bit rubbish. You've not left much room for discussion and you've insulted the readers who slogged through the main post that you didn't expect us to read. (condesending much?)

I'll put my hand up, I post my tiny weenie answers to tiny weenie closed questions and I like it. If I want a clever, well thought out discussion, I'll get my mates drunk and we'll slog it out over the meaning of life. Now that's a debate.

I get that sometimes reading the same old threads can get a bit wearying, but instead of pouting about it from your self-righteous little corner, why don't you not click that thread. Do some really spectacular thinking, start a new one and try and get people interested in it. That's harder than any sort of thought out forum post.

One last thing before I go, if you really come on an internet forum "to grow as a person by learning and interacting" you really need more friends to go and hang out with. Hate to sound harsh, but whilst forums are nice, internet buddies aren't going to help you grow that much in the long run.
 

grimsprice

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TheThinker said:
People don't like to think.

Then I got to thinking about you, the Escapists. I've made a few threads here and there on various accounts over the past year and a bit, but none of them fail quite so spectacularly as the ones that try and provoke some sort of new discussion.
Just remember that some of the threads we loath so much have been done so often that i would be willing to bet my cat that nothing new will crop up in discussion. As for threads the promote discussion, i always answer them if they are new. I come to the escapist to interact with people from the world over.

But then again, at the end of the day, you are just another 'look how degenerate our community is' person. Its just a matter of perspective.
 

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Hmm clever rant indeed. My response is this: People WILL choose the easyier option when it comes to their entertaiment choices. Why? Simple. Because modern day society has convinced everyone that easyier=better. I have two examples.

The first is the automobile. From the moment this machine rolled onto the roads it has been immortalized as the king of the North American tech-religion. Everybody who is anybody has a car. The higher ends of society have better cars, while the lower ends have junkers. The car is the untilamte example of making something as simple and human as walking easyier.

The second is the gun. Nothing shortens up a fight like a gun. The gun represents power, and the fine line between life and death. One flick of the finger and its nighty-night for your target. Killing has never been this easy.

This whole idea that "easyier=better" has since carried over to entertaiment. Thats why the difficulty curve has slowly decreased for all games.

Also, Just cause something isn't 20 minutes long doesn't mean it sucks. Thats like assuming all African American's commit crime. Just plain ignorant. And you should never assume nobody will read your rant, either. When I'm browsing rants, I look for the long, thought out ones over "Nub32: 0mG!!1!!1!!!!1! B4tt13 r1fl3 12 0v34 p0w3rd!!1!!!!!1!!!!!!" Like honnestly I think you just put that "Not like anybody will read this" to start shit cause if you truely figured nobody would read your rant, Why would you have posted it?
 

Circus Ascendant

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TheNumber1Zero said:
well I read most of every line and plan on reading the whole thing,but I think I got the jist of it.you are upset because there are stupid lazy people on the internet.

really?

let me check...yep,you think they are lazy,metally challenged,and just want to post a quick,weak version of their opinion without having do do much effort,such as this guy
Circus Ascendant said:
really?even I read at least a large chunk of it.you didn't even try,not even skinmmed?

well it proves your point,sadly your point has been known for a while now,it sounds like your not wanting people to have thoughts provoked,it sounds like you want thought provoked by you.

now there is nothing wrong with wanting to get the feeling that you have proven a point and maybe made someone think of something new,but wouldn't your point of been proven to yourself when no one posted here?what you think that if no one posted here no one would find out?

the only people who would read this are the ones who already know.the people who are lazy and won't admit it won't even bother reading this.they'll either skip it and move on due to the text wall,go by the title and make a post,or even pull the same thing that circus ascendant did.

your trying to do a good thing,but the only people your informing are the ones who already know.still,at least you tried.next time you want to inform the lazy internet populas,try making it where they'll read it,boil it down to the base point at the bottom of your post or something.

and those are my thoughts.you owe me a penny.
I read it, and I hope I don't get put on probation for my post >_< I was being ironic. I didn't have anything to add to what had been said, hence tl;dr.

But... Yeah, I can see the sentiment it would have put across. But a little "[ironic]" after it would have somewhat lessened the effect for those who realised.

Then again as the internet is what it is, most probably thought I was just an idiot =P