"People here do drugs because it's a small town and there's nothing else to do".

[spartan231490]

Ever heard this one before? It's sad. And personally, I don't buy it, it seems like an excuse. An excuse for people who know people who use drugs and who use drugs themselves to not do something better with their lives.

I have a lot of sympathy for the poor and know how hard it is to get a better life. But drugs do not help. And people who think their town is boring should not seek escapism, much less of the worst form, as a coping mechanism. If you think where you live is boring, your life is sad and you should try to move somewhere else. And if they can't afford it, they should work towards being able to, and keep that as a dream.

Even video games aren't a very good away-from. They should compliment someone's life, not be their only escape from a boring life. To heck with all the people who say "people who don't like where they live fail at life", they're being foolish and promoting foolish, counter-productive thought. There's nothing wrong with not liking where you live, and fantasizing about living in or at least traveling to and seeing if it lives up to your expectations, somewhere else. Whether it's another town, or even another country, or even another country on a completely other continent. That's a much more productive use of time than merely living for escapism. And certainly better than drugs.

Sorry, I'm just tired of this excuse people make for doing drugs. Because I just heard it again today. And I thought, "wow, at least people who say they dream of living in France, or Japan, or Korea, or Germany, or Italy, or other popular destinations have a dream and haven't just given up on life." It's just a terrible, terrible excuse. And moving somewhere else is much better than just giving up and blowing money on drugs. People who are bored, should find much healthier hobbies. It's no excuse, it's no excuse at all. I'm not ultra-negative on marijuana as long as it's just a thing someone does on the side and they don't grow a compulsion for it. But a lot of these sorts of "bored" people get into meth. And that's not marijuana.

Anyway, I needed a rant about that. What do you think?

I would not say that this line is an excuse. The town I come from is really small and there is virtually nothing to do. Now, I don't do drugs and never did, but the simple truth is that so many people where I come from do drugs because there isn't anything else to do. That isn't an excuse, and it doesn't make it right, but it is the reason that the vast majority of people in that town do drugs.

 

[Vault101]

on second thourght I think it doesnt have everything to do with being in small town, but I mean just the same reason anyone might turn to or become addicted to drugs

-lack of job
-lack of education
-an unsatidfying existance

it happens everywhere, mabye its a thing for small towns because theres just no opertunity, or the god damn uneducated people are too stupid to come up with somthing fun to do that doesnt involve getting shitfaced (ok thats a strech but you do wonder with some people)[/B]

Funny how in order to do drugs you need a decent paying job and in order to get a decent job you need a decent education but hey, according to the media drugs just fall out of the sky and I'm assuming that's where you get your information because what you just said is so fucking stupid I can't help but cringe. Still, whatever! Keep on painting drug users as slacking pieces of shit. I bet you have a really cool story to back up your "facts" about how your cousin's friend's brother smoked a blunt once and his nails fell off or something but I'm not really interested in hearing it so don't bother replying unless you can come up with an unbiased source that supports your bullshit claims.

hit a nerve did I?

anyway the bolded part, yeah I wasnt being 100% serious there, from what Ive seen certain people just dont have a wide range of interests.....

anyway this hasnt got anyting to do with "anit drug", ALOT of people from different background and different kinds of people do drugs for different reasons, do well educated people with money do drugs? HELL yes,

what I was talking about was this connection with a small towns and drugs, and mabye I should have been more specific but I was talking about a specific kind of people the "bogans" or trailer trash as an american equivalet, because when I think of "people who live in small towns and do drugs" those are the kinds of people whom I think of

I dont actually know whats gotten your undies in sich a twist, Im saying that there are epople out there who thourgh one reason or another dont have much in their lives and just do drugs and stuff...THATS who Im talking about,

not functional drug users I know they exist

so seriously calm the fuck down and mabye actually present some kind of argument instead of flipping the fuck out over nothing

 

[Vault101]

That's pretty much everyone in Adelaide's excuse to drink. There's nothing to do so lets go to clubs and get drunk! It really annoys me because like you said it's just a cop out. Yes there isn't as much to do here as in Melbourne or Sydney but for god sakes people be just a little creative and you'll find something that doesn't involve you ending up in a gutter somewhere.

I wouldnt class adeleade as a "town in the middle of nowhere" even if its not booming with "culture" you could probably see a movie or go shopping or to a cafe...you know stuff like that...it IS a city for crying out loud

what most of us are talking about is somwhere where oyu cant do that, shopping gets as exciting as the general store, there arnt any jobs or anything

I know and that's what annoys me so much. People here say it's just a big town but they have no idea.

on second thourght I think it doesnt have everything to do with being in small town, but I mean just the same reason anyone might turn to or become addicted to drugs

-lack of job
-lack of education
-an unsatidfying existance

it happens everywhere, mabye its a thing for small towns because theres just no opertunity, or the god damn uneducated people are too stupid to come up with somthing fun to do that doesnt involve getting shitfaced (ok thats a strech but you do wonder with some people)

I don't think it has as much to do with education as people think. At my second high school there was a large group of people who did drugs every weekend even though they got exactly the same education as me. I think a lot of it has to do with family circumstances and peer pressure. It's also a rebellion thing that everyone goes through at some stage and it sticks with some people longer than others. With small towns the boredom thing would come into it too and that belief you'd get that you can't get anywhere in life so I guess that's why it's worse.

I agree....

though I think mabye im actually thinking more of people who really dont do anything with their lives and happen to live in country towns rather than teenagers

I mean to me teenagers doing drugs in a small town...yeah that doesnt surprise me

 

[Vault101]

Yeah, good job OP. Doing drugs totally means you have a no life and are a slacker! In fact, that's what all drug users are! The media is always right and bla bla bla white sound.

How about this excuse for doing drugs. You don't get to decide what people do with their own bodies.

I dont think this was suposed to be overly "anti-drugs"I think its more this conection between drug use and small towns

the "cause theres nothing else do to" excuse generally indicates deeper probelms...lack of opertunites and such which happens alot in small towns

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

Ever heard this one before? It's sad. And personally, I don't buy it, it seems like an excuse. An excuse for people who know people who use drugs and who use drugs themselves to not do something better with their lives.

I have a lot of sympathy for the poor and know how hard it is to get a better life. But drugs do not help. And people who think their town is boring should not seek escapism, much less of the worst form, as a coping mechanism. If you think where you live is boring, your life is sad and you should try to move somewhere else. And if they can't afford it, they should work towards being able to, and keep that as a dream.

Even video games aren't a very good away-from. They should compliment someone's life, not be their only escape from a boring life. To heck with all the people who say "people who don't like where they live fail at life", they're being foolish and promoting foolish, counter-productive thought. There's nothing wrong with not liking where you live, and fantasizing about living in or at least traveling to and seeing if it lives up to your expectations, somewhere else. Whether it's another town, or even another country, or even another country on a completely other continent. That's a much more productive use of time than merely living for escapism. And certainly better than drugs.

Sorry, I'm just tired of this excuse people make for doing drugs. Because I just heard it again today. And I thought, "wow, at least people who say they dream of living in France, or Japan, or Korea, or Germany, or Italy, or other popular destinations have a dream and haven't just given up on life." It's just a terrible, terrible excuse. And moving somewhere else is much better than just giving up and blowing money on drugs. People who are bored, should find much healthier hobbies. It's no excuse, it's no excuse at all. I'm not ultra-negative on marijuana as long as it's just a thing someone does on the side and they don't grow a compulsion for it. But a lot of these sorts of "bored" people get into meth. And that's not marijuana.

Anyway, I needed a rant about that. What do you think?

I would not say that this line is an excuse. The town I come from is really small and there is virtually nothing to do. Now, I don't do drugs and never did, but the simple truth is that so many people where I come from do drugs because there isn't anything else to do. That isn't an excuse, and it doesn't make it right, but it is the reason that the vast majority of people in that town do drugs.

I've said this three or four times already, but the city slickers seem to be ignoring me. At least I'm not alone in my observation.

 

[AndyFromMonday]

what I was talking about was this connection with a small towns and drugs, and mabye I should have been more specific but I was talking about a specific kind of people the "bogans" or trailer trash as an american equivalet, because when I think of "people who live in small towns and do drugs" those are the kinds of people whom I think of

Yeah, trailer trash. That's how you refer to the people who hit a low end due to whatever reason. Very respectful.

thourgh one reason or another dont have much in their lives and just do drugs and stuff...

And what of the people who have "nothing in their lives" but do not do drugs? What's the difference? But if they do drugs then it's obvious they DO have something in their lives to look forward to, entertainment, something which we all want and need. The difference between you and the "trailer trash" is that they have values in direct opposition to your own and hang out around people with the same mindset. In actuality they're not different at all, it's just that you find their lifestyle disgusting and strive to insult it whenever possible. But it's not really they're life style you're against, it's their usage of drugs. Maybe I misinterpreted what you were trying to say but the way you worded your comment made it quite clear that you consider a lack of education to be the deciding factor in drug use and by doing so you managed to insult not just the "trailer trash" but other drug users as well by stating that a lack of education and other factors are the reasons people do drugs.

 

[Al-Bundy-da-G]

I don't give excuses. I do certain drugs because I like them, end of. Not everyone wants to use their time productively, some people just want to pump their bodies full of chemicals, if that's the case just say so. However, some people when confronted with people who disapprove of their choices try to mollify them with the old "I only do it because X, Y, Z", it's only human. As a general rule we all want people to like us and when someone doesn't like something you do that you don't want to change you give them excuses in the hope that they will at least make an exception for you even if they aren't going to change their mind on the issue. I on the other hand tell them to go fuck themselves if they don't like it, it has nothing to do with them unless I rob them to pay for my habit.

Edit:

Perhaps it would be better phrased "People here do drugs because it's a small town and there's nothing else they want to do"

I like you, let's be friends.

OT: Never actually heard that excuse before. Used to smoke pot when I was in high school, quit when I got a real job. My parents asked me why when they found out, I told them I wanted to. No excuses, no lies , just I wanted to.

 

[clipse15]

on second thourght I think it doesnt have everything to do with being in small town, but I mean just the same reason anyone might turn to or become addicted to drugs

-lack of job
-lack of education
-an unsatidfying existance

it happens everywhere, mabye its a thing for small towns because theres just no opertunity, or the god damn uneducated people are too stupid to come up with somthing fun to do that doesnt involve getting shitfaced (ok thats a strech but you do wonder with some people)[/B]

Funny how in order to do drugs you need a decent paying job and in order to get a decent job you need a decent education but hey, according to the media drugs just fall out of the sky and I'm assuming that's where you get your information because what you just said is so fucking stupid I can't help but cringe. Still, whatever! Keep on painting drug users as slacking pieces of shit. I bet you have a really cool story to back up your "facts" about how your cousin's friend's brother smoked a blunt once and his nails fell off or something but I'm not really interested in hearing it so don't bother replying unless you can come up with an unbiased source that supports your bullshit claims.

hit a nerve did I?

anyway the bolded part, yeah I wasnt being 100% serious there, from what Ive seen certain people just dont have a wide range of interests.....

anyway this hasnt got anyting to do with "anit drug", ALOT of people from different background and different kinds of people do drugs for different reasons, do well educated people with money do drugs? HELL yes,

what I was talking about was this connection with a small towns and drugs, and mabye I should have been more specific but I was talking about a specific kind of people the "bogans" or trailer trash as an american equivalet, because when I think of "people who live in small towns and do drugs" those are the kinds of people whom I think of

I dont actually know whats gotten your undies in sich a twist, Im saying that there are epople out there who thourgh one reason or another dont have much in their lives and just do drugs and stuff...THATS who Im talking about,

not functional drug users I know they exist

so seriously calm the fuck down and mabye actually present some kind of argument instead of flipping the fuck out over nothing

Why he flipped out as you put it is because your painting such a stereotypical picture of drug use that's not painted in any kind of reality and stating your findings as facts.

 

[wilsontheterrible]

snip

Do you drink alcohol? Do you eat fast food regularly? Do you smoke? Do you watch television? Do you play videogames? Do you masturbate? Do you go to fracking church? Same principal, except legal. Who are you to judge how people choose to escape from the monotony of their lives? Everything can be dangerous in excess. Everything. If you can get high thinking about France then power to you but you should never judge a man by his vices. Ever.

A: I think you missed the OP's point.
B: I can judge people all I want. I'm a libertarian so I advocate the full legalization of narcotics, that doesn't change my opinion that those that use them have a fundamental weakness of character.

It's a crutch for the mind and a diversion for those to weak or stupid to do anything better with their lives. I've lived around crack addled bums and drug pushers long enough to have a healthy level of suspicion towards anybody that uses. They might seem alright for a time but eventually they snap, even the marijuana users.

Yeah I smoke cigars and yes I eat fast food and play videogames, but none of those have ever driven a sane man to crime and homelessness. I've seen some people steal cigarettes but I've never heard of one becoming a whore to buy them. I've seen people get heart disease from fast food but never have I heard of anybody robbing a store for Big Mac. And I've seen time, and once a job, lost over somebody over-indulging in videogames but I've certainly never seen one with the walking dead look that meth users get after a few years.

 

[LordFisheh]

The thing with drugs, or hard ones at least, is that the money ends up in the hands of smugglers, murderers, organised criminals and third world warlords. I mean if someone wants to trash their body, I really don't care much. But by funding criminal empires without a second thought these people are essentially becoming accessories to murder. Every time a dealer kills his competition, he's essentially being 'paid' for it by the customers he gains/keeps. Warlords and drug cartels are buying their weapons and hiring their torturers with the money given to them by a drug user to remain competitive in an industry supported by the same.

This is why I have no sympathy for celebrities who whine about their 'struggle with drugs'. I imagine the struggle was slightly worse for the cop beaten to death in a back room for refusing to take a bribe.

OT, these 'people' are paying for rape, torture and murder simply because they're bored.

 

[Ruwrak]

Someone once said, If you're bored, it's time to develop some creativity in your life.

And I stick to that.

 

[SovietPanda]

...(your Australian right?)

was it the crocodile thing that gave it away.

 

[Vault101]

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acctually its not really the drugs

its the whole attitude, its just the "not doing anything"...thing, mabye because they cant or dont want to because there not much opertunity in such a small town this stuff happens,

EDIT: in fact I think its just me being "anti-country", having a slight predjudice against country people because I had to go to school and be surrounded by "dickheads" (actually my year was great, it was the year above) so yeah Im inclined to see certain country people as uneducated dickheads, and I know that isnt right....but I can say with confidence such people do exist and live in country towns..but not all country people ar elike that...blah blah blah you get the gist

 

[Vault101]

...(your Australian right?)

was it the crocodile thing that gave it away.

yeah, just making sure you got what i ment when I said "bogan"

 

[kayisking]

Ever heard this one before? It's sad. And personally, I don't buy it, it seems like an excuse. An excuse for people who know people who use drugs and who use drugs themselves to not do something better with their lives.

I have a lot of sympathy for the poor and know how hard it is to get a better life. But drugs do not help. And people who think their town is boring should not seek escapism, much less of the worst form, as a coping mechanism. If you think where you live is boring, your life is sad and you should try to move somewhere else. And if they can't afford it, they should work towards being able to, and keep that as a dream.

Even video games aren't a very good away-from. They should compliment someone's life, not be their only escape from a boring life. To heck with all the people who say "people who don't like where they live fail at life", they're being foolish and promoting foolish, counter-productive thought. There's nothing wrong with not liking where you live, and fantasizing about living in or at least traveling to and seeing if it lives up to your expectations, somewhere else. Whether it's another town, or even another country, or even another country on a completely other continent. That's a much more productive use of time than merely living for escapism. And certainly better than drugs.

Sorry, I'm just tired of this excuse people make for doing drugs. Because I just heard it again today. And I thought, "wow, at least people who say they dream of living in France, or Japan, or Korea, or Germany, or Italy, or other popular destinations have a dream and haven't just given up on life." It's just a terrible, terrible excuse. And moving somewhere else is much better than just giving up and blowing money on drugs. People who are bored, should find much healthier hobbies. It's no excuse, it's no excuse at all. I'm not ultra-negative on marijuana as long as it's just a thing someone does on the side and they don't grow a compulsion for it. But a lot of these sorts of "bored" people get into meth. And that's not marijuana.

Anyway, I needed a rant about that. What do you think?

I agree with the fact that drugs aren't a great solution to boredom, but what's wrong with escapism? I mean, for all intents and purposes, videogames are nothing more then escapism either (or at least most are).

 

[LilithSlave]

And I hold the same thing to be true about video games. If you play video games because you hate where you live, you shouldn't be playing video games.