People not "in tune" with technology
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Hey, I'm a programmer and I never learned how to type properly.
I think its dumb to just generically say 'I know more then you, why don't you learn more'. If you have a good argument for why people need to know more, that's cool but I don't see it here. As with most things, if a person is not interested in learning the details, they learn what they need to to survive and don't bother with anything else. You don't learn the design principles of the combustion engine when you learn to drive, why learn the details of computers if you just need to get your e-mail?
I think its dumb to just generically say 'I know more then you, why don't you learn more'. If you have a good argument for why people need to know more, that's cool but I don't see it here. As with most things, if a person is not interested in learning the details, they learn what they need to to survive and don't bother with anything else. You don't learn the design principles of the combustion engine when you learn to drive, why learn the details of computers if you just need to get your e-mail?
Uh...because it you know...controls stuff? It lets you set up accounts, cancel print jobs, back up your computer, view connected devices, uninstall things, change your language, change your battery options (laptop), check your system specs.Lumber Barber said:
You can't see why any of that would be important?
Sewing a shirt isn't important? Last I checked you wore clothes too. Clothes that someone else made, whether it be a machine someone designed or a little starving boy in a third world country.Eri said:
From one computer geek to another, stop trying to inflate your sense of self worth. Just help the person fix their shit and move on.
Par for the course at Catholic school.MASTACHIEFPWN said:
I don't touchtype and I'd quarter my speed if I tried, but years of typing (over 25 now) allows me to type about as fast as most touch-typists, and I use most of my fingers. Nothing beats my uncle, though. A journalist for years, he only typed with two fingers. But damn, did those two fingers MOVE!
In the grand scheme of things, no, it's not worth much compared to computing. If I have an inflated sense of self worth, you have a severe lack of understanding of where things lie in order of importance. Computers are what humanity is and will use to advance themselves, shirts do no such thing. They advance nothing, they are nice to have sure, and they certainly have their place, but that place is not in this argument.Aeonknight said:
In the grand scheme of things, people need things like clothing, food, shelter, etc. to survive long enough to make any advancements computers could possibly offer. Surprised you don't see that if you're looking at the big picture.Eri said:
But even discounting something as "insignificant" as clothing, take vehicle repair for example. trucks are still a major logistical component for how the whole system runs, and I doubt you even know how to change your oil. So again, yes computer skills are nice but don't think it discredits the importance of other fields.
The questions not why they would be useful, but why would they not be? Are you seriously going to tell me no "average" user ever needs to cancel a print job? Never needs to set up another account for their child or someone else? They never need to adjust their laptops battery settings? They never need to uninstall things to make more space for other stuff? They might need to change the language or be impaired and need to change accessibility options.Suki_ said:
None of that seems worthy of knowing?
Oh christ it annoys the fuck out of me. If you don't have a computer or you're say someones grandmother, fair enough, you probably have no need of one.
What irks me is when someone has a computer but they still seem incapable of remembering anything for longer than five seconds. My mother has been using computers for 6 years, yet any time I tell her to do something simple like moving a folder or what have you it's like I've just asked her to perform brain surgery;
"Move that folder over there"
"How do I do that?"
"Drag it there..."
five minutes later....
"Move that folder over there"
"How do I do that?"
"Did you not just do it? Nevermind the countless times we've had this exact same conversation?"
ARGHHH RAGE! I'm not expecting people to know RAM or CPUs or any of the meaty stuff, but being incapable of performing basic functions after five years of using a PC, is just infuriating.
It's like common sense just goes out the window, any real life connections they can make between things seem to overriden by fear and confusion. If you see an advert saying "You have won a fantabulous prize!" It's a fucking scam, just like in real life; use your brain. Use GOOGLE. As I have said a million times before.
On a lighter note, watching people who cant type amuses me, granted it is a skill that takes time to learn, but it's still funny. It's like watching a cat paw ineffectually at a bit of shiny paper.
If you were a teacher and I asked you to teach me how to say, be a mechanic, yet after three years of working under you, I still freaked out and got confused every time you asked me to put oil in a car you'd likely tell me to get stuffed.
What irks me is when someone has a computer but they still seem incapable of remembering anything for longer than five seconds. My mother has been using computers for 6 years, yet any time I tell her to do something simple like moving a folder or what have you it's like I've just asked her to perform brain surgery;
"Move that folder over there"
"How do I do that?"
"Drag it there..."
five minutes later....
"Move that folder over there"
"How do I do that?"
"Did you not just do it? Nevermind the countless times we've had this exact same conversation?"
ARGHHH RAGE! I'm not expecting people to know RAM or CPUs or any of the meaty stuff, but being incapable of performing basic functions after five years of using a PC, is just infuriating.
It's like common sense just goes out the window, any real life connections they can make between things seem to overriden by fear and confusion. If you see an advert saying "You have won a fantabulous prize!" It's a fucking scam, just like in real life; use your brain. Use GOOGLE. As I have said a million times before.
On a lighter note, watching people who cant type amuses me, granted it is a skill that takes time to learn, but it's still funny. It's like watching a cat paw ineffectually at a bit of shiny paper.
YOu do make a fair point, however, when you've told someone a million times how to do something and everytime you do, they forget it five seconds later, it's a pain in the arse.DoPo said:
If you were a teacher and I asked you to teach me how to say, be a mechanic, yet after three years of working under you, I still freaked out and got confused every time you asked me to put oil in a car you'd likely tell me to get stuffed.
C'mon man, everyone should know how to rewire a plug, my mum taught me, and I'm pretty sure I did it in science once, even if you don't, open one up and it's pretty obvious.Blunderboy said:
Some of your arguments are pretty viable.
Except the one on typing. For Christ's sake, I don't have proper training for typing. And I type pretty slow for a dude that has used a computer for most his life.
Except the one on typing. For Christ's sake, I don't have proper training for typing. And I type pretty slow for a dude that has used a computer for most his life.
As the only one in the house who knows more than two web browsers I tend to be tech support. I self taught myself a lot of things, such as how to upgrade the computers, update the drivers, and really do anything electronic based around the house. Still nothing compared to my friends who all have custom built PCs and do PC repair and website creation as a hobby/job.
Also I learned how to type quickly and accurately mostly through MMO games where even taking 5 seconds to type something could mean destruction. This combined with my refusal to use acronyms and other shortened words normally used means that I can output a staggering number of words-per-minute in short bursts. Mavis Beacon can eat my cheeto dust.
Also I learned how to type quickly and accurately mostly through MMO games where even taking 5 seconds to type something could mean destruction. This combined with my refusal to use acronyms and other shortened words normally used means that I can output a staggering number of words-per-minute in short bursts. Mavis Beacon can eat my cheeto dust.