People playing games only to kill things

[endtherapture]

Guy on my Twitter has just been tweeting some stupid stuff in the past few minutes:

I've killed everything in my ranch on Red Dead Redemption except for the one dog that wanders around

Assassins Creed sucks too, fuck stealth shit i wanna kill people

If you manage not to massacre innocent civilians on free roam games you have a lot more patience than i do.

I even kill everyone in Fable.

I'm going to go play Red Dead Redemption and shoot my horses in the face, fuck missions.

If you give me a video game involving guns and free roam, i WILL kill everyone wether it's part of the story or not.

i sold Fallout New Vegas because i kept getting killed when i killed everyone

all i want to do i drive and fly and kill and buy shit without consequences that's why GTA is fun

i can't play GTA IV because i just get killed by police because i suck at that, i just wanna be free

it's all about free roam and random killing for me

And I wondered why the media thinks gamers are violence obsessed idiots...discuss?

 

[Zhukov]

Umm... welcome to reality?

We weirdoes talking about writing and story and gender politics aren't necessarily the majority. A lot of people just play video games to kill shit.

You can say they're stupid, violence-obsessed idiots if it makes you feel better. Of course, I imagine they would have something equally disparaging to say about us.

 

[endtherapture]

I seriously tohught most people were into games for the story now, even some of my console gamers friends criticise the story of games and stuff and even these so-called "gamer girls" are playing games like Dragon Age for the story, so it was weird for me seeing a guy I thought was normal revealing this.

 

[endtherapture]

I seriously tohught most people were into games for the story now, even some of my console gamers friends criticise the story of games and stuff and even these so-called "gamer girls" are playing games like Dragon Age for the story, so it was weird for me seeing a guy I thought was normal revealing this.

Console gamers can't enjoy stories now?

Some games I play for story, others I play for mindlessly fun combat like L4D, Prototype and other games that have great combat systems.

I seriously tohught most people were into games for the story now, even some of my console gamers friends criticise the story of games and stuff and even these so-called "gamer girls" are playing games like Dragon Age for the story, so it was weird for me seeing a guy I thought was normal revealing this.

Console gamers can't enjoy stories now?

Some games I play for story, others I play for mindlessly fun combat like L4D, Prototype and other games that have great combat systems.

Nah it's just that console gamers are becoming more cultured and caring about story more, when before a lot of my friends weren't appreciating that kind of thing in the past and only caring for "the awesome factor".

I just think buying New Vegas, a story-based RPG and then selling it because you can't kill everyone is a pretty stupid thing to do, as well as criticising games based on stealth and free running (Assassin's Creed) because you can't just go and massacre everyone in the city.

 

[PrimitiveJudge]

Everything that guy said on twitter is what most people do on free roaming games anyways. It's legal in games, so go for it. As far as the story goes, I will beat the game first for the story and then I will get my revenge. =)

 

[Mr Fixit]

I know I've cranked up GTA or Saint's Row just to blow off some steam, it can be quite therapeutic to just blow shit up. Now I love a good story in my games, but sometimes I just gotta blow something up. I love BIG BOOMS & if something or someone happens to get caught in it, oh well it's just a game.

 

[Comocat]

AFAIK the only point to GTA is to cheat and get a tank then see how long you can hold off the cops. If I want a story, I'll read a book.

 

[Vern5]

Huh.... I would keep a close eye on that Guy from your twitter. He sounds just a teensy bit unhinged.

I'll admit that I do enjoy killing things in games sometimes. Of course, I don't enjoy killing anything that can't fight back. If there's no challenge then there is no point.

 

[endtherapture]

Oh just to add to the OP - he said he'd think GTAV will suck if it doesn't have cheats, he doesn't want a challenge he just wants to kill people.

 

[skurz]

It could be that "gamers" that are moderately new to games (maybe they've only played gta or call of duty) are experiencing the joy of mindless killing simply because it's new. When I first started in the world of gaming, I spent a lot of time just demolishing everything I could because it was fun and new.

Many older "gamers" have learnt with time that the lack of challenge in just slaughtering npcs gets boring.
Easy challenges are boring challenges.
We start being stealthy over running in; we try to be ghosts instead of warriors.
We tackle difficult ethical questions because they push us beyond "fun game time" and into situations where we learn who we really are.

tl;dr Maybe it is fun to commit virtual genocide- but after the first few times have worn off, I like to believe that we grow with our games and begin searching for more difficult challenges.

 

[w9496]

Some games are meant to achieve just that though. Games like DOOM could give a rats ass about story, you're a tough guy who kills demons and that's it.

And about New Vegas, you're supposed to get to level 30 or 50 before you kill everybody.

 

[DataSnake]

It all depends on the game. In Dishonored I'm a steampunk Batman: unseen, nonlethal, and terrifying. In Saints Row 2 I drive around town in a pimped-out septic truck spraying things with poop and shooting anyone who tries to stop me. In Skyrim I'm a stalwart hero who only kills in self-defense or in exchange for large sums of money. In Just Cause 2 I tie old ladies to the rear bumper of my car and drive it off a cliff.

 

[Racecarlock]

It all depends on the game. In Dishonored I'm a steampunk Batman: unseen, nonlethal, and terrifying. In Saints Row 2 I drive around town in a pimped-out septic truck spraying things with poop and shooting anyone who tries to stop me. In Skyrim I'm a stalwart hero who only kills in self-defense or in exchange for large sums of money. In Just Cause 2 I tie old ladies to the rear bumper of my car and drive it off a cliff.

Yeah, I mean, I can't believe this is such a big shocker. I mean, wow, not everyone plays a game for story. Why does that matter? People can play games however they want to. And they probably won't care what endtherapture or anyone else thinks.

 

[Racecarlock]

It could be that "gamers" that are moderately new to games (maybe they've only played gta or call of duty) are experiencing the joy of mindless killing simply because it's new. When I first started in the world of gaming, I spent a lot of time just demolishing everything I could because it was fun and new.

Many older "gamers" have learnt with time that the lack of challenge in just slaughtering npcs gets boring.
Easy challenges are boring challenges.
We start being stealthy over running in; we try to be ghosts instead of warriors.
We tackle difficult ethical questions because they push us beyond "fun game time" and into situations where we learn who we really are.

tl;dr Maybe it is fun to commit virtual genocide- but after the first few times have worn off, I like to believe that we grow with our games and begin searching for more difficult challenges.

Or maybe that people just play games differently because they have different preferences and tastes. Just a thought.

 

[go-10]

I have a friend like that, to him a good game is one where you can kill everyone and everything in it and you get extra points if the things you kill can get cut into a million pieces and have limbs and blood everywhere, however if the game insist on a story or delivering any sort of message the game is shit for not being a real game, the only exception being Sonic games, which according to him are the greatest things ever since sliced bread.

now while I don't agree with his point of view it's still his point of view, is it idiotic, maybe, but that's his own idea and everybody is entitled to their own idea. That's just the way things are meant to be, hence why I fail to see the "shock" to your argument :/

 

[skurz]

It could be that "gamers" that are moderately new to games (maybe they've only played gta or call of duty) are experiencing the joy of mindless killing simply because it's new. When I first started in the world of gaming, I spent a lot of time just demolishing everything I could because it was fun and new.

Many older "gamers" have learnt with time that the lack of challenge in just slaughtering npcs gets boring.
Easy challenges are boring challenges.
We start being stealthy over running in; we try to be ghosts instead of warriors.
We tackle difficult ethical questions because they push us beyond "fun game time" and into situations where we learn who we really are.

tl;dr Maybe it is fun to commit virtual genocide- but after the first few times have worn off, I like to believe that we grow with our games and begin searching for more difficult challenges.

Or maybe that people just play games differently because they have different preferences and tastes. Just a thought.

I'm sorry, but why did you quote my post? Is my answer not a valid opinion like yours is?

 

[Racecarlock]

It could be that "gamers" that are moderately new to games (maybe they've only played gta or call of duty) are experiencing the joy of mindless killing simply because it's new. When I first started in the world of gaming, I spent a lot of time just demolishing everything I could because it was fun and new.

Many older "gamers" have learnt with time that the lack of challenge in just slaughtering npcs gets boring.
Easy challenges are boring challenges.
We start being stealthy over running in; we try to be ghosts instead of warriors.
We tackle difficult ethical questions because they push us beyond "fun game time" and into situations where we learn who we really are.

tl;dr Maybe it is fun to commit virtual genocide- but after the first few times have worn off, I like to believe that we grow with our games and begin searching for more difficult challenges.

Or maybe that people just play games differently because they have different preferences and tastes. Just a thought.

I'm sorry, but why did you quote my post? Is my answer not a valid opinion like yours is?

Oh good, another person who think that just because their opinion is an opinion, it can't be challenged.

Yes, it's a legitimate opinion. Doesn't mean I can't post my own opinion on it.

 

[skurz]

It could be that "gamers" that are moderately new to games (maybe they've only played gta or call of duty) are experiencing the joy of mindless killing simply because it's new. When I first started in the world of gaming, I spent a lot of time just demolishing everything I could because it was fun and new.

Many older "gamers" have learnt with time that the lack of challenge in just slaughtering npcs gets boring.
Easy challenges are boring challenges.
We start being stealthy over running in; we try to be ghosts instead of warriors.
We tackle difficult ethical questions because they push us beyond "fun game time" and into situations where we learn who we really are.

tl;dr Maybe it is fun to commit virtual genocide- but after the first few times have worn off, I like to believe that we grow with our games and begin searching for more difficult challenges.

Or maybe that people just play games differently because they have different preferences and tastes. Just a thought.

I'm sorry, but why did you quote my post? Is my answer not a valid opinion like yours is?

Oh good, another person who think that just because their opinion is an opinion, it can't be challenged.

Yes, it's a legitimate opinion. Doesn't mean I can't post my own opinion on it.

Another person? Are you confusing this with a past experience?
You are being very hostile to a polite question.

I'm not saying "I posted an opinion, go away," I'm saying "Why did you quote my post?" Like, what was it that you didn't agree with?
I agree that people play games differently because they have different interests. I also believe that the longer you spend playing easier challenges, the more you'll seek after difficult ones.