'People who want privacy have something to hide.'
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This doesn't bother me as much as it should, since it's already happening to me, just on a smaller scale. I'm 21 and my uncle has forced me to let him a put a programme on my computer that sends him daily emails with a list of every website I visit. :/
It's okay though. I get him back by visiting many, many sites that are just filled to the brim with gay pornography. <3
It's okay though. I get him back by visiting many, many sites that are just filled to the brim with gay pornography. <3
Not really, more boring than anything else. I just have a valid justification for doing whatever else I've done, and thus didn't see the need to include it.hubert said:
The whole thing I've been trying to drive at here is that one should do everything in their power to make the best possible choice. If you do that, even if everything falls apart around you, there's no reason to be ashamed of what happened. It all comes down to personal responsibility. I hold myself to a very high standard, and if I fail to reach that goal, I take action to correct it. As long as you continue to do your best, there's no reason to feel ashamed of anything you do.
Edit: Also, just out of curiousity, what would you say are valid things to be ashamed of then? Not what you in particular are ashamed of, simply an example or two you would consider something to be embarrassed about.
Just gonna argue this point: The primary reason we wear clothes isn't to hide anything, it's for comfort and aesthetics. It's much easier to regulate your body temperature with clothing, especially on colder days, and a lot of clothes nowadays are designed to enhance the appearance of the body underneath.willsham45 said:
There is some degree of truth to what you say, as body-shame is part of our culture, but it's not the primary reason.
Safety is nice an all but when the measures to protect people become more invasive and unpleasant then what they are trying to protect us from then it becomes pointless. I would rather have my liberty/privacy/freedom intact then be 'safe'.
For one I like my privacy very much. While there is the saying 'if you've got nothing to hide then why do you care?' I would return with 'Innocent until proven guilty' Why asssume anyone has anything to hide, why do we have to prove we are innocent when it should be the other way around.
Additionally the 'safety' measures are becomming ever more intrusive, you have to ask yourself, have the terrorists won?
For one I like my privacy very much. While there is the saying 'if you've got nothing to hide then why do you care?' I would return with 'Innocent until proven guilty' Why asssume anyone has anything to hide, why do we have to prove we are innocent when it should be the other way around.
Additionally the 'safety' measures are becomming ever more intrusive, you have to ask yourself, have the terrorists won?
Here's my argument for all the excessive monitoring.
How much money is this bullshit going to cost us? No, seriously. How much money does the government just want to piss away on legislation that would ultimately be ineffective? Instead of wasting my tax money on their paranoid crusade to turn the internet into a padded playground where all the kids are required to wear bubble wrap suits and full body pads why not work on, you know, shit that needs attending to?
That healthcare bill we passed not to long ago sure does have plenty of problems with it. Let's refocus some of that congressional effort to banging out the kinks on that. Instead of trying to build a damned nanny state on the internet.
How much money is this bullshit going to cost us? No, seriously. How much money does the government just want to piss away on legislation that would ultimately be ineffective? Instead of wasting my tax money on their paranoid crusade to turn the internet into a padded playground where all the kids are required to wear bubble wrap suits and full body pads why not work on, you know, shit that needs attending to?
That healthcare bill we passed not to long ago sure does have plenty of problems with it. Let's refocus some of that congressional effort to banging out the kinks on that. Instead of trying to build a damned nanny state on the internet.
Wow, this sounds like government sponsored repression. Sounds alot like something the Komitet gosudarstvennoy bezopasnosti (KGB) would dream up.
It is not the federal governments job to protect me from myself. It's the federal governments job to protect me from foreign countries.
Not only that, but if they did what they're purposing on a phone system, it would be completely illegal.
It is not the federal governments job to protect me from myself. It's the federal governments job to protect me from foreign countries.
Not only that, but if they did what they're purposing on a phone system, it would be completely illegal.
I am against the invasion of someone's privacy, IE: peering over their shoulder in their personal home, including the reading of their personal email accounts without a warrant.
But, I will admit I have used the 'Only people with something to hide....' line more than once. What's different is I'm referring to folks who get vocal about their privacy in public places. IE: When the company that owns/operates my home city's bus service announced it'd be placing cameras on board their buses, some folk incorrectly stated that this was a violation of their right to privacy. I've seen folks make similar misinformed claims about privacy violations with regards to security cameras in public spaces before as well. It's usually good for a laugh though, shows their poor understanding of what privacy means, and also that it's ridiculous to complain about the presence of a camera when it'd be perfectly reasonable to see a random cop walking the beat, observing people.
But, I will admit I have used the 'Only people with something to hide....' line more than once. What's different is I'm referring to folks who get vocal about their privacy in public places. IE: When the company that owns/operates my home city's bus service announced it'd be placing cameras on board their buses, some folk incorrectly stated that this was a violation of their right to privacy. I've seen folks make similar misinformed claims about privacy violations with regards to security cameras in public spaces before as well. It's usually good for a laugh though, shows their poor understanding of what privacy means, and also that it's ridiculous to complain about the presence of a camera when it'd be perfectly reasonable to see a random cop walking the beat, observing people.
Fairly often, with the frequency having increased somewhat in the years since I got married. Something to look forward to for all you single folk. On an unrelated note, I'm pretty happy that no one can sig me.aegix drakan said:
Honestly? I couldn't care less. I probably already have cookies on my computer that track every move I make. I never assume anything on the internet is private. If this can actually help reduce crime why would I give a shit that the government knows I have a hentai fetish and like to watch weird yaoi anime? Google already knows. I'd be flattering myself if I thought anyone actually gave a shit about my "embarrassing secrets" or that out of millions of people, mine are the most interesting. No one gives a fuck about your weird fetishes.
On the contrary, it makes perfect sense, even if it doesn't seem like it at first. The idea is that it is public, and does not 'belong' to any governing body. So I don't have to answer to any shadowy political power, I don't need to enter six pages of personal information to look at a video, or read someone's opinion on X UNLESS those are the rules the site-owners have regarding their own content, because they are free to do what they want with their own web-space. Just like my opinion on anonymity in the physical world, unless the relevant legal system has valid evidence suggesting I am involved in illegal activities according to their laws, then they have no right to keep tabs on me, or bug my phone, or scroll through my search history, or invade my privacy in any way.Nimcha said:
I can see where you are coming from though. As a public forum/conglomerate/whatever, people put their information, words, actions, etc out into a free-space for anyone to do whatever they want with, and so it seems strange to expect anonymity. But that's the point, people are only as known as they want to be. If you announce online that you are a drug dealer living at 32 Fake Street, then YOU are publicly announcing those details of your life. On the other hand, if you visit a hentai site to get your rocks off, then you should be able to expect anonymity insofar as you refrain from blurting your personal details and habits.
Anonymity is not a be-all shield from scrutiny. If you flop your breasts/penis out in public, everyone who sees will know the size of your respective 'bits', and you can't make them forget it, or undo your display, and the same applies on the internet.
You guys are mistaking having your information monitored with it being published.
My guess is that if they do this they will have people to sign a non disclosure agreement unless it's something illegal and/or they won't know who they are monitoring even if they find something illegal, it would be like user 1dhd874rkd95o4jjufu39.
My guess is that if they do this they will have people to sign a non disclosure agreement unless it's something illegal and/or they won't know who they are monitoring even if they find something illegal, it would be like user 1dhd874rkd95o4jjufu39.
My usual counter-argument:
Spousal Abuse is a serious risk? Y/N
Most abuse takes place in the home? Y/N
CCTV allows Offenders to be Prosecuted with greater ease.
Therefore, all bedrooms should now be fitted with CCTV cameras to make sure Spousal Abuse (And luckily Child Abuse) can never take place again.
You agree, don't you? Or do you support Child/Spousal Abuse?
What are you hiding that you don't want people to see?
With cameras watching you, we can not only make sure you're safe, but that everyone is safe.
Why would you want to interfere with that unless you plan to harm someone?
The cameras won't be on all the time. They'll just be recording at certain times. At random, so you can't tell when they are on.
You'll never miss an important call or an important date any longer, think of all the benefits - and the tax reductions - and the extra jobs you'll be bringing in.
We could even allow people to do community service watching the cameras. People who break into your house could be forced to watch over you.
How can you argue with such a benevolent scheme?
Spousal Abuse is a serious risk? Y/N
Most abuse takes place in the home? Y/N
CCTV allows Offenders to be Prosecuted with greater ease.
Therefore, all bedrooms should now be fitted with CCTV cameras to make sure Spousal Abuse (And luckily Child Abuse) can never take place again.
You agree, don't you? Or do you support Child/Spousal Abuse?
What are you hiding that you don't want people to see?
With cameras watching you, we can not only make sure you're safe, but that everyone is safe.
Why would you want to interfere with that unless you plan to harm someone?
The cameras won't be on all the time. They'll just be recording at certain times. At random, so you can't tell when they are on.
You'll never miss an important call or an important date any longer, think of all the benefits - and the tax reductions - and the extra jobs you'll be bringing in.
We could even allow people to do community service watching the cameras. People who break into your house could be forced to watch over you.
How can you argue with such a benevolent scheme?
It's very simple, How easily is it to take things out of context, considering everything thing you do would be monitored, into you saying what they want you to say. I could be talking about trying to kill a boss in a game and all of a sudden get put on a watch list.
Hell this is happening right now. A song a guy downloaded was used as Key evidence in a murder trial
http://www.news4jax.com/news/-Used-To-Love-Her-Download-Played-For-Jury-In-Husband-s-Murder-Trial/-/475880/1885248/-/56b68q/-/index.html
Hell this is happening right now. A song a guy downloaded was used as Key evidence in a murder trial
http://www.news4jax.com/news/-Used-To-Love-Her-Download-Played-For-Jury-In-Husband-s-Murder-Trial/-/475880/1885248/-/56b68q/-/index.html
Fair enough. I get what you're aiming at at least.hubert said:
I can't say I agree with you on the "when you were a different person" bit though. One is never a different person. We are all the sum total of our experiences up to this point. As you are exposed to more information and ideas, your opinions change. That doesn't mean one needs to be ashamed of whatever choices you made in the past. If you made the best choice at the time, there's no reason to be ashamed of it, even if you would make a different choice if presented with the same options later in life.
If you didn't, you made a mistake, and mistakes are not something to be ashamed of. They are something to be acknowledged and learned from. Take a lesson from your mistake and never repeat it.
The only time it's valid to be ashamed of a choice you've made is if 1) You knew it was wrong when you made it or 2) You repeated an old mistake. In those situations, it's perfectly valid to feel ashamed, but the only time you get into those situations is when you fail at life pretty fucking epicly.
Also, in the interest of full disclosure, I haven't actually committed any crimes beyond the occasional pillaging of office supplies, but I have a couple of weird tastes in porn, which generally hovers in the hentai area. I don't see it as something to be ashamed of, but there you go.
it not an argument at all, it just a bunch of people who are WAY out of touch with reality thinking that they have they right to spy on every body
Your asking the Escapist, a group of extremely liberal video game enthusiasts there opinion on this? It'd be a harder question to answer what color the red badge of courage was.
It's not a good argument because even if people aren't doing something illegal, they still want and are entitle to privacy. That's why the government can't put cameras in your bathroom.
It's not a good argument because even if people aren't doing something illegal, they still want and are entitle to privacy. That's why the government can't put cameras in your bathroom.