Philosofical Question
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If it does not fit within the definition of a sword anymore, it is not a sword anymore, by definition.
If someone tried to kill me with a broken sword whilst exclaiming:
'I will kill you with my sword!'
I would have to let them know that it's not a sword...
'That's merely a handle...'
'I will kill you with my sword!'
I would have to let them know that it's not a sword...
'That's merely a handle...'
You build a house out of Lego. Okay cool, you have a house.
Now take the Lego apart, and make something else? Where is the house? You have the bricks you made it with, but where did the actual house go?
= A house is not a thing, it is a concept.
In the same line of thinking: a sword that has been broken is not a sword anymore. It is two parts of a broken sword. Reforge it, the two parts will no longer exist, but a sword will.
TL;DR: You wanna talk philosophy? There you go, here's something "filisofical" to think about.
Now take the Lego apart, and make something else? Where is the house? You have the bricks you made it with, but where did the actual house go?
= A house is not a thing, it is a concept.
In the same line of thinking: a sword that has been broken is not a sword anymore. It is two parts of a broken sword. Reforge it, the two parts will no longer exist, but a sword will.
TL;DR: You wanna talk philosophy? There you go, here's something "filisofical" to think about.
Broken swords in games are usually referred to as "shards". So perhaps that's what it is until reforged.
Damn, it's hard to fight off the urge to call this thread "phail".
Damn, it's hard to fight off the urge to call this thread "phail".
There is a spectrum of brokenness - from the tiniest sliver of metal knocked off the sword's edge, to complete atomisation. There is, conceptually, a stage where the prior form (that of a sword - assuming some kind of linear comprehension of time) is no longer recognisable. That stage is, in itself, a spectrum depending on the observer's understanding of swords and the ability to analyse the parts.
Some questions:
If the only person observing the sword knows nothing of swords, is it still a sword?
If the sword has an imperceptible hairline fracture in it, is it still a sword - or a broken sword? Is it a broken sword only when you know of the break? Clearly the sword is broken, but there's no-one to observe it in that state.
What you come to realise is that "sword" is a convenient and simple, but imperfect and subjective, description of a thing. Brokenness is similarly a convenient and simple, but imperfect and subjective, description of a state of a thing.
The interesting part is when one person sees a sword, and another sees a plough and they talk about it.
"Sword" is an opinion. "Broken" is an opinion. People with opinions go around bothering each other.
Some questions:
If the only person observing the sword knows nothing of swords, is it still a sword?
If the sword has an imperceptible hairline fracture in it, is it still a sword - or a broken sword? Is it a broken sword only when you know of the break? Clearly the sword is broken, but there's no-one to observe it in that state.
What you come to realise is that "sword" is a convenient and simple, but imperfect and subjective, description of a thing. Brokenness is similarly a convenient and simple, but imperfect and subjective, description of a state of a thing.
The interesting part is when one person sees a sword, and another sees a plough and they talk about it.
"Sword" is an opinion. "Broken" is an opinion. People with opinions go around bothering each other.
You may be disappointed, but because of your amazing response, you are also my Hero of the Day!Ironrose said:
OT: Yes, it is still a sword. More specifically, it is a BROKEN sword.
Fauxlosophical is more like HO HO HO sorry.
Yes, it is just broken. Unless the whole blade is broken off, then it is a handle.
Yes, it is just broken. Unless the whole blade is broken off, then it is a handle.
What he said but without all the long worlds. I think that a sword is a word we made up to talk about something that we all know. You can't break it as such it all comes down to if you yourself veiw it as a broken sword or if you veiw it as lump of metal. They are the same thing only different words are used to talk about them depending on the person talking.Shymer said:
As for would i think it was broken. If it was in peaces it is not a sword if it still looks more or less like what i think a sword should look like then it is a broken sword.
