Physical digital download of MGS 5 - More great Service from Konami

[Amaror]

So MGS 5 releases soon and a few people were surprised that the game for the PC had actually only a single dvd in the case. Considering the game is about 28 gigabyte big, that would mean some marvelous compression.
But as it turns out the physical copy of MGS 5 doesn't actually have the game on it. The only data on the disk is a 8 megabyte installer for steam. This means you have to download the game from Steam whether you buy it physically or digitally.

That being said the reason for this is supposed to be the fact that the release of the pc version got pushed forward by two weeks and the team was unable to complete the pc version for the printing of the dvds.

I hope i am not posting something allready known, i hadn't heard of this on here before.The news comes from the following news-video in german:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IthwlYCKF1o

 

[nevarran]

Haha, that's plain stupid.
Why even waste the discs? Just give the people a damn code.
The gaming industry and it's never-ending shit-storm...

 

[Cowabungaa]

Microsoft did it before, and now Konami does it too; screw people with data-caps, right?

I know data-caps are outdated, but there's enough with 'em. Or simply people with an internet speed slow enough to make a 28GB install insanely long.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

Microsoft did it before, and now Konami does it too; screw people with data-caps, right?

I know data-caps are outdated, but there's enough with 'em. Or simply people with an internet speed slow enough to make a 28GB install insanely long.

These are such obvious points though. How did nobody in this corporation think of it? Konami's carelessness just hit a new low.

 

[Zetatrain]

Huh, out of curiosity, where are people finding physical retail versions of the game? Best Buy and Gamestop don't seem to carry them and neither does amazon.

 

[sonicneedslovetoo]

Microsoft did it before, and now Konami does it too; screw people with data-caps, right?

I know data-caps are outdated, but there's enough with 'em. Or simply people with an internet speed slow enough to make a 28GB install insanely long.

These are such obvious points though. How did nobody in this corporation think of it? Konami's carelessness just hit a new low.

Nobody thinks of this stuff because they work in big cities and in a work environment that doesn't have data caps(business internet generally doesn't have data caps) so I would imagine they may never hear about things like data caps in their daily lives or experience slow internet for themselves.

 

[busterkeatonrules]

Huh, out of curiosity, where are people finding physical retail versions of the game? Best Buy and Gamestop don't seem to carry them and neither does amazon.

And now we know why! Amazon et al won't sell this kind of BS because they know it'll just piss people off!

 

[Ambient_Malice]

Anti-consumer practices at their finest.

 

[Ambient_Malice]

Do people remember that Skyrim did the same thing? Why wasn't this an issue when Skyrim came out?

When exactly did Skyrim do the same thing? I bought Skyrim for PC physically. It installed 99% of the data off the DVD and then downloaded updates.

 

[Mutant1988]

What's hilarious to me is that not only did Konami screw all their customers but they screwed themselves by wasting presumably hundreds of thousands of dollars on printing and shipping completely useless discs.

 

[Ambient_Malice]

When exactly did Skyrim do the same thing? I bought Skyrim for PC physically. It installed 99% of the data off the DVD and then downloaded updates.

Eh, maybe I'm mistaken then, but I distinctly remember being surprised when I installed from my Skyrim CD and yet had to play the game through steam.

An oversight meant Skyrim's DRM had been left off, which was soon corrected via patches. But that's beside the point - it's normal for Steam games to require Steam to operate despite Steam not actually requiring it.

Even if there is data on the disk, does that make much of a difference?

It makes 27GB of difference. That's days of downloading for some people. (It'll take me 36-48 hours, for example.) It can be a massive chunk of their data cap if they have one.

You're still buying a phsyical copy and being forced to play it through an online distribution service. What is it about the installation itself that matters so much?

You'd be playing the game a whole lot sooner if the game was actually on the DVD. It's a major incentive for some people to grab a physical Steam copy.

 

[CrystalShadow]

When exactly did Skyrim do the same thing? I bought Skyrim for PC physically. It installed 99% of the data off the DVD and then downloaded updates.

Eh, maybe I'm mistaken then, but I distinctly remember being surprised when I installed from my Skyrim CD and yet had to play the game through steam.
Even if there is data on the disk, does that make much of a difference? You're still buying a phsyical copy and being forced to play it through an online distribution service. What is it about the installation itself that matters so much?

Well, it's all relative. But the amount that needs downloading is a huge issue.

Let's say you have a 20 GB game. On digital distribution you need to download 20 gb.
if you have an install disk, but the game still runs through a digital distribution system, then theoretically, you can install that 20 gb from the DVD (or DVD's. 20 GB is a lot for one disk), and the only thing you need internet for is the authentication.

Of course, if there are huge patches to download, that undermines the point quite a lot, but that's the basic idea about why it would still matter even if the Disc version installs something like a steam version of a game.

 

[Laughing Man]

Eh, maybe I'm mistaken then, but I distinctly remember being surprised when I installed from my Skyrim CD and yet had to play the game through steam.
Even if there is data on the disk, does that make much of a difference? You're still buying a phsyical copy and being forced to play it through an online distribution service. What is it about the installation itself that matters so much?

Just a bit, the Skyrim disc had the Skyrim game and data on it and it could be installed to near completion off of the disc, it required Steam to be used as it's DRM and like most games had a day one patch that downloaded a small amount of additional data. MGS 5 on the other hand has nothing, it has no game data at all on it, all it has is a Steam installer.

Oh and it took me an hour to download the game, just thought I would wind some folk up with that statement.