In a bizarre coincidence, I happen to be a second year mathematician at the University of Manchester. Small world, eh?Redingold said:As for my credentials, I'm in my first year studying theoretical physics at the University of Manchester.
In a bizarre coincidence, I happen to be a second year mathematician at the University of Manchester. Small world, eh?Redingold said:As for my credentials, I'm in my first year studying theoretical physics at the University of Manchester.
Huh, fancy that. Small world indeed.The Selkie said:In a bizarre coincidence, I happen to be a second year mathematician at the University of Manchester. Small world, eh?Redingold said:As for my credentials, I'm in my first year studying theoretical physics at the University of Manchester.
Hmm actually I take that back you may be right. So I've found some physics calulators.Redingold said:That value might sound absurd, but it's easy to confirm. h=E/mg, mg = 10000(ish), E is on the order of 10[sup]5[/sup], 10[sup]5[/sup]/10[sup]4[/sup] = 10, so that is the right order of magnitude.
yeah stupid ppl using the metric system when discussing physics amirite?Mossberg Shotty said:Sorry, you lost me at the metric system. I saw a guy lift one end of a car a few centimeters once, if that helps. Probably not.
You can't have an initial velocity of 800ms[sup]-2[/sup], because that's a measure of acceleration.AJvsRonin said:Hmm actually I take that back you may be right. So I've found some physics calulators.Redingold said:That value might sound absurd, but it's easy to confirm. h=E/mg, mg = 10000(ish), E is on the order of 10[sup]5[/sup], 10[sup]5[/sup]/10[sup]4[/sup] = 10, so that is the right order of magnitude.
Using this one:
http://easycalculation.com/physics/classical-physics/force.php
Entering 1000kg mass, and 800,000 Newtons (800kJ/m) gives an accleration of 800m/s^2!!!
Thats extremely fast though and sounds weird to me.
Using this one:
http://www.calctool.org/CALC/phys/newtonian/projectile
And entering angle as 90 degrees with an initial velocity of 800m/s^2 under gravity = 1g. Gives a maximum height of over 65 kilometres!!! and travel time of 163 seconds.
I know this doesn't take into account air resistance but still!
This has gotta be wrong right? Is a newton not a force of 1 joule/m?
I know, where do these people get off? Convert that shit to feet and inches if you want my esteemed opinion...lechat said:yeah stupid ppl using the metric system when discussing physics amirite?Mossberg Shotty said:Sorry, you lost me at the metric system. I saw a guy lift one end of a car a few centimeters once, if that helps. Probably not.
It's assuming an apple weighs 100g, 1/10th of a kilo, thus lifting 1,000kg 1m requires 10,000J.randomsix said:An apple that weighs a kilogram would be really big. Like win-the-state-fair big
The two pieces of your post are factually correct, except perhaps for the assertion that those numbers are used in the original argument. However, the second part doesn't follow from the first at all.AJvsRonin said:It's assuming an apple weighs 100g, 1/10th of a kilo, thus lifting 1,000kg 1m requires 10,000J.randomsix said:An apple that weighs a kilogram would be really big. Like win-the-state-fair big
It would, but the bolt would go on forever (until it hit a planet, meteor or the like). It would also be perfectly quiet (there's not sound in space).adamsaccount said:Im glad i found this thread because ive got a story im writing too and i need to know if a crossbow would work in space
Sweet, would you need to put some sort of gyroscope into the bolts to make them fly straight though?Darken12 said:It would, but the bolt would go on forever (until it hit a planet, meteor or the like). It would also be perfectly quiet (there's not sound in space).adamsaccount said:Im glad i found this thread because ive got a story im writing too and i need to know if a crossbow would work in space
Possibly, as its air resistance that causes the bolt to fly straight, any slightly off centre momentum would go unchecked and the bolt would tumble end over end.adamsaccount said:Sweet, would you need to put some sort of gyroscope into the bolts to make them fly straight though?
Cheers, i guess the Wookies were onto something thereAJvsRonin said:Possibly, as its air resistance that causes the bolt to fly straight, any slightly off centre momentum would go unchecked and the bolt would tumble end over end.adamsaccount said:Sweet, would you need to put some sort of gyroscope into the bolts to make them fly straight though?
Straight through what? Once you fire it, the bolt will travel in a straight line because there is no air to make it deviate course. It will also never slow down because there is no air friction. Also a gyroscope (or any other form of steering mechanism) would be more or less useless because steering needs to be done against something. You steer in one direction by pushing against the air/water/etc in the opposite one, so because there is nothing in space to steer against, you are hopeless to change course once fired.adamsaccount said:Sweet, would you need to put some sort of gyroscope into the bolts to make them fly straight though?Darken12 said:It would, but the bolt would go on forever (until it hit a planet, meteor or the like). It would also be perfectly quiet (there's not sound in space).adamsaccount said:Im glad i found this thread because ive got a story im writing too and i need to know if a crossbow would work in space
I imagined the bolt tumbling instead of the pointy end staying forward since theres no air for the arrows to direct it through, i guess you could shoot explosives or something like that though, i thought gyroscopic forces worked in space?Darken12 said:Straight through what? Once you fire it, the bolt will travel in a straight line because there is no air to make it deviate course. It will also never slow down because there is no air friction. Also a gyroscope (or any other form of steering mechanism) would be more or less useless because steering needs to be done against something. You steer in one direction by pushing against the air/water/etc in the opposite one, so because there is nothing in space to steer against, you are hopeless to change course once fired.adamsaccount said:Sweet, would you need to put some sort of gyroscope into the bolts to make them fly straight though?Darken12 said:It would, but the bolt would go on forever (until it hit a planet, meteor or the like). It would also be perfectly quiet (there's not sound in space).adamsaccount said:Im glad i found this thread because ive got a story im writing too and i need to know if a crossbow would work in space
No, it would tumble if there was a force that would push it backwards. Otherwise our rockets would tumble all the way to the moon and Mars instead of going in a straight line.adamsaccount said:I imagined the bolt tumbling instead of the pointy end staying forward since theres no air for the arrows to direct it through