Piers Morgan Axed from CNN

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I'm very confused at the hatred for Piers Morgan. He and the average internet denizen have so much in common! Ah well. I don't watch TV, so I have no strong feelings on this.
 

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Lowest rated show on one of the lowest rated news networks (fucking MSNBC beat out CNN in the rankings). Sad really, but then again I never watch cable news so I can't really say much on this guy other than that I've heard he's a massive tool.
 

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Who cares - Television news is all about the entertainment factor. You can't -actually- rely on them to bring forth accurate information. It's all about the drama and fear it inspires. People are weird....

So basically I don't care if some vastly over-paid guy who's name I don't know on a silly television show gets fired. Biiiiiiiig deeeeeeeeal.
 

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lacktheknack said:
I'm very confused at the hatred for Piers Morgan. He and the average internet denizen have so much in common!
Seriously, yeah, there's a lot of this. Very much the same old.

Well, except in his case he's not anonymous, and he's getting paid, which isn't true for most people on the net.

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And it's only half true for you, isn't it Graham?
 

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thaluikhain said:
lacktheknack said:
I'm very confused at the hatred for Piers Morgan. He and the average internet denizen have so much in common!
Seriously, yeah, there's a lot of this. Very much the same old.

Well, except in his case he's not anonymous, and he's getting paid, which isn't true for most people on the net.

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And it's only half true for you, isn't it Graham?
Doesn't null out the similarities, though.

And despite the hatred, I bet that 99% of the internet would leap at the chance to have Piers Morgan's job. Because integrity on the web isn't actually a thing.
 

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I enjoy the guys twitter feed. I like that he just sits there and trolls people all day long. I have never seen his show, but I always enjoy a decent troll.
 

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Hey America, USA, 'Murica, greatest nation on... okay enough butt kissing. Erm... You are going to keep Piers Morgan right? Remember we have a 14 day return policy and you have had him for way more than that. We Brits, do not want him back. NO no no no no no no no no no never ever ever. You took him now you have to keep him.
 

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It's an opinion show. As far as I'm concerned, that type of show has no place on a news channel. It doesn't matter if it's left wing or right.

I want the news to give me the facts and nothing else. What happened, where, why. No speculations, no opinions, no chatter. I'm very well capable of making my own opinions on any given matter.
 

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lacktheknack said:
thaluikhain said:
lacktheknack said:
I'm very confused at the hatred for Piers Morgan. He and the average internet denizen have so much in common!
Seriously, yeah, there's a lot of this. Very much the same old.

Well, except in his case he's not anonymous, and he's getting paid, which isn't true for most people on the net.

...

And it's only half true for you, isn't it Graham?
Doesn't null out the similarities, though.

And despite the hatred, I bet that 99% of the internet would leap at the chance to have Piers Morgan's job. Because integrity on the web isn't actually a thing.
I think a lot of it is to do with his general demeanour.

He comes across immediately as quite smug, arrogant and pretentious. But at the same time, as you get to hear the content of his reactions and how he reacts, he comes across as very childish.

On top of this though, there are the scandals of phone hacking where he is alleged to have hacked the phones of a dead teenager and the families of dead soldiers, in order to acquire leads for his newspapers. Supposedly he deleted voicemails on her phone, which caused the police to believe that the teenager was still using her phone, but just not answering calls for whatever reason - bringing false hope to her parents. It is alleged, but that it didn't shock people kind of reflects public opinion of him. It did legitimise a lot of people's hate, for which most of the content does come across as childish in itself, jealousy of success, fame, money etc.

His reaction to people having a jab at him on TV, such as Ian Hislop and Clive Anderson, was to have several of his reporters devote their days to following them around to try and dig up stories on them. As far as I am aware, he wasn't very successful. It was a pretty childish return and I doubt his superiors at the paper were pleased with the expense to the company for him wishing to enact revenge on personal beef.

He also was editor for two papers in Britain which are renowned for having little to do with real news and more to do with fear-mongering and extreme right political viewpoints. Obviously people are entitled to their opinions, voice and in print, but I think people don't like the propaganda-esque nature of it and presentation of fiction as fact, under the guise of supposed journalism, people see as manipulative and dangerous, and exacerbates big issues/political topics in Britain (such as immigration).

So I think people resent the fact that he is rich on the means that he has. There are plenty far richer people that it would make more sense to be jealous of on a monetary-basis. Surely some sort of professional athlete for football or similar. That pay bracket, young age, often good looks etc. is surely more appealing and a source of jealousy, than the want to be Piers Morgan.
 

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SKBPinkie said:
It's an opinion show. As far as I'm concerned, that type of show has no place on a news channel. It doesn't matter if it's left wing or right.

I want the news to give me the facts and nothing else. What happened, where, why. No speculations, no opinions, no chatter. I'm very well capable of making my own opinions on any given matter.
Surely you struggle to find the ideal, but I think the BBC makes a good attempt at trying to be objective at approaching news stories.

I think that this is part of the reason people disliked Piers in Britain, was the baseless, hateful content of his papers. It is masquerading as some form of fact and journalism, but it is really often just agenda pushing and deceptive. To hear it vocalised by the man himself must bring this pain to a new level.
 

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I for one will welcome Piers back to the UK with open arms, give him a nice job at the BBC and leave him be. What job you ask? Why, nothing less than the new post of 'Conflict correspondent' where he will be sent all over the world to report on conflicts as they happen and from the front lines too! I bet he'd have a few good things to say to those Ukrainians. Just a shame the BBC budget won't cover anything like bullet-proof vests or a security team. :p

I doubt he will return to the UK though, he'd rather be out of a job in the States than locked up over here. As for why he lost his show it's hardly a suprise that a show with apparently poor ratings would get cancelled. He'll probably set up shop elsewhere and continue ranting.
 

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Good. Although not good enough. He's one of those people I don't think I'd ever tire of punching.
 

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Finally! I wish that scumbag would do what he said he would and go back to England so he can see that his precious gun control made it the most violent country in the EU.

Fun fact: almost all of the US's gun violence is in areas with strict gun control.
 

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Ubiquitous Duck said:
I guess it's more comedy-realm where we like to be self-deprecating.
That goes for a lot of nations I think. I at least know a lot of Americans enjoy comedians that absolutely tear different aspects of the nation apart for a good laugh.

Anyways, never really followed Piers Morgan, even when CNN was doing a lot better than it is now, so I never really got exposed to his attitude. I do remember having a good laugh when he brought Alex Jones on the show, though. That's not because the show itself was good. It's because bringing Jones on the show basically screwed over his own legitimacy, provided he had any to begin with.
 

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Ubiquitous Duck said:
In reference to David Mitchell, did Piers use his show as a soap box and people had enough of that or was it just a poor show regardless?
"David Mitchell" is the name for God on the lips and hearts of all children. Piers Morgan, on the other hand, is a dickhead. To my knowledge there is no real link between the two figures.

David's Youtube series that I mentioned is called Soap Box, however. You may not like it in all honesty; I think David Mitchell is at his best when he's playing a straight man against a zany character.
 

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Bertylicious said:
Ubiquitous Duck said:
In reference to David Mitchell, did Piers use his show as a soap box and people had enough of that or was it just a poor show regardless?
"David Mitchell" is the name for God on the lips and hearts of all children. Piers Morgan, on the other hand, is a dickhead. To my knowledge there is no real link between the two figures.

David's Youtube series that I mentioned is called Soap Box, however. You may not like it in all honesty; I think David Mitchell is at his best when he's playing a straight man against a zany character.
Yes, I mentioned the soap box in my response, as a reference to David Mitchell's soap box show.

I was trying to suggest that he used it like a platform for complaining, like David Mitchell did. I'm not saying that in execution the outcome is the same, as I love David Mitchell and his rants that he does get a good reception, hence the soap box series he did. Mitchell didn't invent the idea of getting on a 'soapbox' as meaning elevating yourself (for Piers Morgan this was by being on TV) for a speech on a subject.

This is what I'm wondering if people are suggesting that Piers did with his show? Just used it as a platform to spout his opinions, but obviously his method and outcome are not one that was greeted with great reception?
 

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Ubiquitous Duck said:
spartan231490 said:
Ubiquitous Duck said:
According to the Guardian, Piers Morgan has been axed from the CNN network and his talk show will come to end.

Source: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/24/piers-morgans-us-talkshow-axe-cnn

How do people feel about this?

I personally have a very low opinion of Piers Morgan, so I'd rather not see his face make a return to our screens here in the UK.

If the basis for him being axed is true and the focus for his rejection from American audiences is on the basis of him showcasing his opinion on the 2nd Amendment and gun laws in America, then I am not really backing the idea of him being fired.

At the end of the day, a prime-time TV show has to bring in the ratings to be able to continue on, so the network's hands are really tied on this one and there is only one right course of action for them, end the show. I still do not like the fact that someone can be rejected for voicing their opinion on a poignant topic which came to the front of the media in recent events in America. As Piers runs a show on current affairs, it only seems natural that he would comment on it.

However, I don't follow the show, for an obvious aforementioned reason, so maybe someone who has been subjected to it on a regular basis can confirm whether he has brought it up too often or can better understand the show's decline.

Perhaps I am just concerned that he will be coming back to the UK... could we just have a few more years without him back in the UK, please? Maybe he could try his hand at Australian media... or eastern Asia?...

No?... Please??...
You do realize Piers did a lot more than voice his opinion on gun control, right? He has a whole host of episodes where he vociferously insults the American people and the American government because of gun rights. He encouraged the government to pass gun control against the will of the people, a huge no-no in a representative government. He didn't just voice his opinion on it, he personally attacked large segments of the population with alarming frequency. So no, this isn't just because of his opinion, it's because he was a gigantic asshat to 45% of Americans on a consistent basis.
No, I didn't realise.

This is why I admitted my limited knowledge on the day-to-day actual content of his programme and asked if someone could possibly fill in the gaps on the delivery of his point of view and how ham-fisted and often he did it.

I hate on Piers Morgan regardless of what he does, so it's hard to see it without the immense bias in my mind. I'm trying to think of it if it had been someone else.

I guess when it is topical it had a point, but if he just used his show to push an agenda over and over then that is what ended up pissing people off?
Even that probably wouldn't have pissed people off so bad, it was the way he did it. Like, he would bring in pro-gun guest speakers, and never let them talk. He would ask them loaded questions and just scream at them every time they tried to get a word in. That's the type of behavior he displayed. He was childish, needlessly aggressive, and insulting to the populace at large.
 

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spartan231490 said:
Even that probably wouldn't have pissed people off so bad, it was the way he did it. Like, he would bring in pro-gun guest speakers, and never let them talk. He would ask them loaded questions and just scream at them every time they tried to get a word in. That's the type of behavior he displayed. He was childish, needlessly aggressive, and insulting to the populace at large.
So he's a British Bill O'Reilly? Haven't watched TV, especially cable news[footnote]unless you count the occasional Daily Show or Colbert on their official website[/footnote] in going on a decade, but the O'Reilly types are always imminently punchable.

PS-
www.smbc-comics.com
 

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He's a lowlife asshole, but he did a good job revealing some of the American hypocrisy and idiocy. I'm not surprised that the pro-establishment CNN fired him. I'm surprised it took them this long.