Pig Murder...Grammar Nazis descend upon me!

[Marcus Dubious]

"deliberate killing of oneself," 1651, from Mod.L. suicidium "suicide," from L. sui "of oneself (gen. of se "self"), from PIE *s(u)w-o- "one's own," from base *s(w)e- (see idiom) + -cidium "a killing" (see -cide). Probably an Eng. coinage; much maligned by Latin purists because it "may as well seem to participate of sus, a sow, as of the pronoun sui" [Phillips]. The meaning "person who kills himself deliberately" is from 1728. In Anglo-L., the term for "one who commits suicide" was felo-de-se, lit. "one guilty concerning himself."

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=suicide

Etymology

 

[ParadoxBG]

Yeah. Sui = of itself. Thus "Sui Generis" meaning "of its own kind" or "unique."

The Latin for for pig is "porcus," so "Pig Murder" would be "Porcicide."

And now you know.

Also, where the hell did you get "sui" as a word for "pig"?

I've heard of farmers calling for pigs by yelling "Su-eee" or something, don't have a clue where it comes from though.

Well, the scientific name for pigs as a whole is 'Suidae'. It all goes back to the root word. Even the term 'swine' uses it as a root.

 

[fletch_talon]

Homicide ---> Man(or woman) murder
(Homo = man)

Homo, means "the same" I believe.
Homosexual = being attracted to the same gender
Homonym = spelt the same with different meanings (I think)
Homophone = sounds the same but spelt differently

I spose it may have a different meaning in the context of Homo Sapiens, but I would assume homicide refers to killing another human being, ie. someone the same species as yourself.

"Homo" is the Latinate form of "Man", therefor Homocide is, literally, murder of (another) man. Man, in this case, meaning human.

Homosexuality is using "Homo" as a Greek word, meaning "The Same," which is why there's Homogenized milk, Homogeneous cultures, etc.

Well there you go, I made the same mistake as the OP mixing up greek and latin, thanks for clearing that up.

 

[jimtheviking]

Glad I could help.

 

[ParadoxBG]

If you feel the need to correct peoples grammar or spelling then go where it?s appreciated, a library, language course, maybe even a dictionary society.

If you chose to do it on a gaming forum then, IMO you're a pompous twit who should know better.

So, no I couldn't care whether suicide should be something else.

You, good Dubious person, have seen right through me. Yes, by asking people to help me figure out something I couldn't on my own, I am infringing on their rights as human beings and am therefore the most pretentiously arrogant individual on the net. Whatever was I thinking, posting something that wasn't about video games in the 'Off-Topic' section of a video game forum. Clearly I am in need of clinical help. -_-

...Probably not doing anything to throw off your opinion of my pomposity , am I? <.<

 

[ParadoxBG]

Everything I know is a lieeeeeee, a lie I say!

OT: Sounds right, but, English isn't my first or preferred language, and I'm not so good with Latin either so, eh, what do I know....

Oooh, hey, out of curiosity what is your first language? I am interested now.

 

[ActionDan]

Everything I know is a lieeeeeee, a lie I say!

OT: Sounds right, but, English isn't my first or preferred language, and I'm not so good with Latin either so, eh, what do I know....

Completely off topic, but what IS your Avatar from?

 

[YoUnG205]

The English Language is very inconsistent.(sp)

 

[effilctar]

snip

From Latin sui "of oneself".

EDIT: the "cide" bit is from Latin caedere "to kill", not murder. and Murder is the act of one human killing another, so Deicide doesn't really work unless you are saying that said god is physically a man, which they technically aren't, as Man is simply a being created in the likeness of the gods.

 

[BuckminsterF]

Pig is sus if I'm not mistaken, sui is oneself

 

[MindDemon]

This is blasphemy... this is MADNESS.

 

[Lexodus]

My guess is that it stems from the same root as 'sum', or 'I' in Latin, relating to the self.

This is blasphemy... this is MADNESS.

THIS IS... a very boring joke, especially when deliberately set up like this.




The most vivid memory I have of Latin was 'Porcus obesus est', or 'the pig is fat'.

 

[DarkMessiah]

...Hold on. This is bothering me.

Suicide ---> Self murder
(but sui= pig)

???????

It should be autocide, shouldn't it? Because 'suicide' should mean 'pig murder'...Weird!

Any thoughts or corrections to my silly, silly ways?

Sui- more or less means "oneself"

[small]How difficult is it to Google? [http://lmgtfy.com/?q=suicide+word+origin][/small]

 

[A Random Reader]

Deicide ---> God murder
(Deus = God)


Suicide ---> Self murder
(but sui= pig)

I'm pretty sure sui means 'oneself' roughly. So, to kill oneself makes sense.

Also, Deicide seems to be based of deity rather than Deus, though they are basically the same thing.

Suus, roughly means 'oneself' yes, and it's can also be shorted to 'sui'.
[sub]I'm not fluent in Latin, correct me if you will.[/sub]

 

[MaskedMori]

Thats why I always thought grammar and spelling are irrelevant, because the english language do not follow most of its own rules.

does not* Would have been do if it were multiple languages.
Felt like doing that. <_<

 

[ffxfriek]

Yeah, no. Sui = of itself. Thus "Sui Generis" meaning "of its own kind" or "unique."

The Latin for for pig is "porcus," so "Pig Murder" would be "Porcicide."

And now you know.

Also, where the hell did you get "sui" as a word for "pig"?

Yeah, no. Sui = of itself. Thus "Sui Generis" meaning "of its own kind" or "unique."

The Latin for for pig is "porcus," so "Pig Murder" would be "Porcicide."

And now you know.

Also, where the hell did you get "sui" as a word for "pig"?

AS a 2 year latin student i TOO want to know where you got that from?

 

[ParadoxBG]

Yeah, no. Sui = of itself. Thus "Sui Generis" meaning "of its own kind" or "unique."

The Latin for for pig is "porcus," so "Pig Murder" would be "Porcicide."

And now you know.

Also, where the hell did you get "sui" as a word for "pig"?

Yeah, no. Sui = of itself. Thus "Sui Generis" meaning "of its own kind" or "unique."

The Latin for for pig is "porcus," so "Pig Murder" would be "Porcicide."

And now you know.

Also, where the hell did you get "sui" as a word for "pig"?

AS a 2 year latin student i TOO want to know where you got that from?

Ha! Three years of Latin myself and I'm still mixing Greek and Latin roots up. It's Greek, as I've said.

 

[lacktheknack]

So, my farmer uncle has committed suicide - hundreds of times?