Pig squeals are the stupidest form of vocal delivery in death metal

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TOGSolid

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Oh, and to anybody hating on Mastodon, check out their latest album Crack the Skye, it's incredibly good and isn't all 'growly and shit.' Most of the lyrics are sung clean, and they sound great.
 

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All this death metal was cool to me like 4 years ago back in high school. I admit it was cool then but now I can't listen to it anymore. I grew out of all that. I can't understand what is said in songs like that. It sounds like a bunch of noise. :S
 

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DownOnTheUpside said:
All this death metal was cool to me like 4 years ago back in high school. I admit it was cool then but now I can't listen to it anymore. I grew out of all that. I can't understand what is said in songs like that. It sounds like a bunch of noise. :S
Yeah, that's my problem with most death metal. If I can't understand what's being said, then I tend to not like it. Stuff like Dethklok/Amon Amarth are easy to hear though. For me, it's just finding more metal like that, that's the trick.
 

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pig squeals are an absolute load of crap.

The best growlers of death metal would have to be Mike 'Gunface' McKenzie (Beyond the Sixth Seal), Johan Hegg (Amon Amarth), and Mikael Akerfeldt (Bloodbath).

and for those of u who dont appreciate death metal and hate its vocals, simply gtfo.
 

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Khazoth said:
Death Metal are for people who want to be musicians, but realize they have absolutely no talent.

Sorry but screaming and/or talking isn't music.
Wow, this statement is like the opposite of what thruth is :c
Seriuosly, proper growling requires a lot of practice and skill, you could compare it to opera singing.

Take a look at this video, if you still, after watching it, think that DM takes no talent to play, you must be absolutely ignorant:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXINemV8E_0

Just an example of one drumer's work (George Kollias, current drummer of the "Nile")

On a side note i think that piggy squeals sound ridiculous too.
 

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^ george kollias is my fucking hero!!!!!

and u cannot say that death metal isnt music, not after you hear an amon amarth or an insomnium song. those 2 bands make some of the most beautiful music i've ever heard.

hungoverbear said:
Meh, I prefer Black Metal over Death Metal. I mean Death Metal singers sound like they are gargling salt water and trying to talk at the same time.
oh yeah?
and what are black metal vocals like?

Like a screeching 10 year old who's slowly getting their throat cut, and maybe getting their nails pulled out by plyers too.

Death metal vocals, imo, are awesome, the dudes i mentioned above can produce rich deep growls, they have proper technique that doesnt destroy their vocal chords.

i'm a massive fan of melodic death metal, bands like amon amarth, beyond the sixth seal, insomnium, this ending. Musically they're some of the best bands ever i reckon, some amon amarth songs have just absolutely amazing lyrics and when combined with the melodic guitars produce awesome imagery.

..yeah, im a bit weird when it comes to music, haha.

main thing is, this is my opinion. it doesnt make sense when u say 'this music is shit', there's no such thing as a right or wrong opinion. the dude who i quoted prefers black metal over death metal and doesnt like death metal vocals, i'm just giving my opinion on it.

all comes down to opinion.

and in my opinion, pig squeels are a load of crap :)
 

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A lot of you are narrow minded idiots posting in the wrong topic... someone who likes dance music will obviously hate this...

but yes guttural vocals do suck, and i have acutally listened to 'good' grindcore bands, not just listenened to 30 seconds of a youtube clip.

And at everyone who thinks death metal is just generic trash with an awful structure and shitty vocals, enjoy your Lady Goga.

Khazoth said:
As i've said before.


Rap and Death Metal are for people who want to be musicians, but realize they have absolutely no talent.

Sorry but screaming and/or talking isn't music.
yes it is, it's a different style but it's still music...

grindcore/brutal death core is terrible, you all need to stop confusing it with good death metal bands, like Death, Morbid Angel, Obituary and Atheist.

A lot of you could benefit from this, which appeared as the first result of a simple google search:

http://www.wikihow.com/Appreciate-Death-Metal
 

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Real pig squeals are retarded and ridiculous, just like the whole genre that's branched out priding themselves on singers that use pig squeals and generic logos, deathcore. It just takes the worst aspects of death metal and metalcore.
 

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fu6azi said:
Death Metal seems like the wrong genre to expect anything less than an abundance of stupidity and sexual frustration from.
sorry for double posting... but wow... that's... i don't know what to say, other than i'm pretty raged up.

off topic: Trespasser (the game in your avatar) is a great, underrated game, seeing that in your avatar saved me from blurting out some things that would have definitely got me banned.
 

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TOGSolid said:
I used to hate death metal too in all honesty. Then the Reverend Nathan Explosion and his fellow priests showed me there is a different path to follow.

Now I've branched out to Amon Amarth. :D I'm still pretty picky, but I'm more willing to sit down and listen.

(All hail Dethklok)
That's my exact same story, except I started off indifferent to death metal.
 

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Khazoth said:
As i've said before.


Rap and Death Metal are for people who want to be musicians, but realize they have absolutely no talent.

Sorry but screaming and/or talking isn't music.
No.

People in death metal bands are talented. Listen to the solos and the drums, hell, listen to all of it except from the vocals and shut up.
 

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Wasder said:
Khazoth said:
As i've said before.


Rap and Death Metal are for people who want to be musicians, but realize they have absolutely no talent.

Sorry but screaming and/or talking isn't music.
No.

People in death metal bands are talented. Listen to the solos and the drums, hell, listen to all of it except from the vocals and shut up.
Agree But even Deathcore vocals take a lot of work, people who say "OHHH ANYONE CAN SCREAM" are idiots, they have no idea the work it takes to make it sound that intense, yeah anyone can scream of course they can, but just like singing, it takes talent to make it sound good. And just because it doesn't sound good to you, doesn't mean everyone agrees. I love Heavy music, and when a band does Pig Squeals right I like it. Some bands are horrible at them though, and it seems like they get the most attention.
 

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Khazoth said:
Rap and Death Metal are for people who want to be musicians, but realize they have absolutely no talent.
That's funny, I've done shows with some pretty big bands myself, and I also do hip-hop. Guess you're wrong!
 

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Artemis923 said:
fu6azi said:
Death Metal seems like the wrong genre to expect anything less than an abundance of stupidity and sexual frustration from.
So this is an abundance of stupidity?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2W7h3a0iMw&feature=PlayList&p=798D02BA5B24521E&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=2
With a title like "Advanced Corpse Tumor", I'll have to say yes.

That being said, I like some Death growls. The singers from maudlin of the Well, Between the Buried And Me, Opeth, And even Mastodon are good. I dont know what they were doing in that live video, though. that sucked.
 

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jdog345 said:
Artemis923 said:
fu6azi said:
Death Metal seems like the wrong genre to expect anything less than an abundance of stupidity and sexual frustration from.
So this is an abundance of stupidity?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2W7h3a0iMw&feature=PlayList&p=798D02BA5B24521E&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=2
With a title like "Advanced Corpse Tumor", I'll have to say yes.
Listen to the song instead of just automatically condemning because of its name.
 

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Eh, I find it alright. If they do it too much, it gets very annoying, very fast, but a bit is good. It adds a bit more flavour to the song's vocals, when used in moderation.
 

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fu6azi said:
Death Metal seems like the wrong genre to expect anything less than an abundance of stupidity and sexual frustration from.
Generalisation based on stereotypes is bad. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTKxGhf2Yyw]