Pirate party!
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I think the bottom line is that what they were doing was giving away stolen goods. Fair play to them in that they didn't charge anything for the things that they gave away, but it's still theft.
EDIT: I'm assuming that you're for the pirate bay, as you have a Jolly Roger as your avatar.
EDIT: I'm assuming that you're for the pirate bay, as you have a Jolly Roger as your avatar.
You say that like as if that's the case, which it clearly is not. The Pirate Bay is merely a link locator. It doesn't host anything illegal on its domain.iain62a said:
The people doing the illegal thing, are the ones sharing copyrighted material. The copyright holders should go after them rather than the Pirate Bay.
What is more interesting, is that the judge in the case has been found to be possibly biased and the whole thing may have to go through a retrial.
I'm here to represent the true pirates, Long John and all them, I' against the illegal downloading of games and films being reffered to as piracy.
On topic, like many here at the escapist I'm against the illegal downloading of games, you see games are expensive to develop, they take time to develop and if we just download them for nothing, the developers who have poured so much time and resources into the games, are left out in the cold.
On topic, like many here at the escapist I'm against the illegal downloading of games, you see games are expensive to develop, they take time to develop and if we just download them for nothing, the developers who have poured so much time and resources into the games, are left out in the cold.
Ok, fair enough, it doesn't actually host anything illegal, but it's still just exploiting a loophole. Of course the object of the webpage is to get files and programs without having to pay for them, and linking to other pages instead of their own is justs them exploiting this loophole.Joos said:
The year in prison is a bit much though, they're obviously no danger to anyone else, so I don't think a jail sentence would be right for them.
I think downloading out of print games, like Planescape: Torment is fine though.
Not really a loophole, is it? I preferably go looking in bargain bins for old games, or why not at Good Old Games.com where games from yesteryear can be had for cheap without DRM.iain62a said:
http://www.gog.com
Check it out, I bought Fallout 2 there so I could play that before I got Fallout 3 for my PS3.
I mainly use pirate bay to pre listen CD's before I buy them and to download US TV series I like that are not aired in Australia (like BSG and Firefly).
piratebay is fail. Whatever my opinions on DRM, or the particular crappy marketing of some companies that doesn't make wholesale theft of intellectual property a right thing to do. I believe that business models need to change but i don't believe an irresponsible approach like that taken by piratebay is morally defensible and whatever trite nonsense they are trotting out this week about them not actually stealing anything can be dumped in the bull#$%^ bin at your earliest connivence.
I think that the verdict was too harsh for the Swedish courts, it's just the Americans coming in and imposing their laws on another country... again
obviously the pirate bay is bad, but, i don't think this is a progressive way to deal with the problem, we need to think of some way to make a legal change which will merge it into the fair system.
it would also help if the big companies would spend less money on thier games, that would just calm everything down a bit
obviously the pirate bay is bad, but, i don't think this is a progressive way to deal with the problem, we need to think of some way to make a legal change which will merge it into the fair system.
it would also help if the big companies would spend less money on thier games, that would just calm everything down a bit
It's interesting. I once tried setting up a thread about this and ended up being called a communist bastard.Wargwolf said:
True the pirate bay are ripping off decent artists, but the majority of these artists and record companies make billions anyway:
-Manufacture of CDs and cases cost about -50p per CD
-Recording of album and design of artwork costs about £150+ but is only done once
-A small percentage of the money goes to the shops selling the CDs and the band
-So they could still make a profit by selling them for about £3 in enough quantities, yet they still sell them for £10-£20, and the rest of that money goes to company profit.
-And downloading's worse, as that takes out the cost of CDs, Cases, shops and artwork and just means that a percentage goes to the site selling them, and he electrical data of the download, which is about less than 1p per song, and they sell them for about 80p
Pirate Bay allows users to upload torrents of films, albums, games etc. for free. They don't give out links to other sites. It contains over half of the world's BitTorrent files on it. That's why they were arrested, for breach of international copyright. The fine of $1000000 was specifically chosen as the designers would never be able to pay it back and would have to shut it down. However, despite being arrested, as the servers for it are hidden and the content is user uploaded, it can survive perfectly well without people working it. This is where the debate starts about it.Gamer137 said:
I agree that it is illegal, but the courts have been far too harsh on them for what they have done, compared to how much record artists often make nowadays.
