Pirates of the Caribbean 5 new trailer, this time showing Jack Sparrow.

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Well this is a first in past movies we are told that Jack Sparrow had backstory with whatever villain he's dealing with.

This time we actually SEE Jack's past adventures in a flashback it seems.

So far I may see it, but I was betrayed by On Stranger's Tides trailers and the utter waste of Ian McShane as Blackbeard.

Also the new "Cursed" Pirates are now just weird. Apperently they look like Corpses drowning in the Water.

Also what's with Will and Elizabeth 2.0 all of a sudden? And this guy looks even more forgettable, at least Orlando Bloom can act. Speaking of which apperently Orlando Bloom is also coming back for this movie as Will Turner now Captain of the Flying Dutchmen. What role will he have here?
 
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Uhhh...Right.

Stranger tides was alright, but not great. Made me consider giving any more movies a shot after the crap that was movies 2 and 3. After all, they seemed to have figured out that the movies are at their best when it's about piratey stuff with just a sprinkling of magic.

But this? This just looks kind of terrible.

Ok, so they give Jack a more in-depth VISIBLE backstory instead of the fun nebulous mystery that was there before, the villain is some ex-...Something or other (He looked military but seems to have been a pirate?) who is like "Wah, Jack dun killed me, want revenge" while sounding incredibly dull and generic. This is supposed to be our menacing villain? Hell, Beckett was more menacing that this douche, and Beckett was a foppy manipulative guy, not an undead pirate bent on revenge.

Jack's lines all seem really really lame (At least the stranger tides trailer had the "Did everyone see that? Because I Will NOT be doing it again!" thing which got a chuckle out of me), especially the pants thing, and his plot here all seems like a roundabout way of dealing with the impending "End of the Age of Piracy and mystery" thread that's been dangling over the series for a while now, which apparently HAS to be resolved here because this is the "final chapter".

The new Will/Elisabeth expys seem simultaneously dull and stupid.

The guy seems like "I am goody two shoes super virgin dude, I saw her ankles, yippy!" which is kind of incredibly boring. Hell, the damn PREACHER from the last movie was more interesting than that and he was literally a preacher! I may have played goody two shoes in tabletops and LARPs before, but there's usually some fun edge to it (Being the only-sane-man keeping the crew on task while dragged on a mission with a pack of lunatic sabbat on a road trip to save the world from a plague demon, and being a conspiracy nut who joins the big Cthulhu world-saving sacrificial conspiracy respectively). Just being "dat nice guy" isn't enough. Like, Will Turner had the whole "he has some pirate connection, and is a badass blacksmith and swordsman" thing going for him.

The girl? I...What? Ok, on one hand, she seems spunky. Neat, I like that in a female lead. But her lines are just...What. Did they even GET a writer for this? "I don't want any trouble"?! LADY, you legit just were part of another cliche dramatic rescue from being hanged, complete with snark right after being saved. Given that you were staring down a death sentence what looks like 2 scenes previous, I'd say you're already in trouble and should be rolling with it in order to adapt and survive. *facepalm*

Like...Trailers are supposed to have almost all the best scenes in the movie up front to entice you to come watch the movie (with a few exceptions like the Lego Movie). If THIS is the best they can give us for the trailer, my hopes for the movie are currently at rock bottom. -_-

...I realize I'm coming across really mad. It's because the first Pirates movie remains my favourite movie of all time. It deserves better than this. :mad:
 
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Silentpony said:
Oddly enough I think Stranger Tides is the second best movie of the entire series.
Considering that it was going up against the double disasters that was the 2nd and 3rd movie, I wholeheartedly agree. 2 and 3 were crap.

Stranger Tides was actually a damn pirate movie like the first one. 2 and 3 were basically "The Lost Continents of Magic, starring some pirates".

I just think the series hasn't come back to being in the same ballpark as the first one. Stranger Tides came close, but not quite.
 

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Silentpony said:
McElroy said:
Silentpony said:
Oddly enough I think Stranger Tides is the second best movie of the entire series.
??? Sounds odd indeed.
Well come on. 2 and 3 were Romeo and Juliet on the sea, and oh hey Jack Sparrow is a background character.

All right 2 and 3 were my favorite of the movies because of this guy:


One Piece should definately make a character that's based entirely on this version of Davy Jones.

But there were also other things to like alot about the movies, better action scenes, the Kraken scenes, THE FUCKING MAELSTROM BATTLE WITH 2 SHIPS FIGHTING IN A GIANT FUCKIN WHIRLPOOL!

I swear at World's End was special effects masterpiece, so many events, the edge of the world, the Pirate Gathering at Shipwreck Cove with some many different flavors of pirates. Davy Jones' Locker scenes.

Honestly the movies after At Worlds End so far feels lesser in comparison.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Well sure they're fantastically set-pieces with awe-inspiring graphics, but they were waaaayyyy overboard, no pun intended. Like a Metal Gear game that's sorta grity, sorta goofy, sorta mystical and then the end boss is a giant lava robot Pony and you beat it by playing a rock guitar solo of Bat out of Hell using an Emperor's Children Blastmaster while sword fighting the zombie corpse of your dad.

Its just too much. Jumping the shark doesn't even apply. This is ski-jumping a megalodon into space and high-fiving God's MILF girlfriend.
 

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Silentpony said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Well sure they're fantastically set-pieces with awe-inspiring graphics, but they were waaaayyyy overboard, no pun intended. Like a Metal Gear game that's sorta grity, sorta goofy, sorta mystical and then the end boss is a giant lava robot Pony and you beat it by playing a rock guitar solo of Bat out of Hell using an Emperor's Children Blastmaster while sword fighting the zombie corpse of your dad.

Its just too much. Jumping the shark doesn't even apply. This is ski-jumping a megalodon into space and high-fiving God's MILF girlfriend.
At least Jumping the Shark leaves a memorable impression.
 
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But there were also other things to like alot about the movies, better action scenes, the Kraken scenes, THE FUCKING MAELSTROM BATTLE WITH 2 SHIPS FIGHTING IN A GIANT FUCKIN WHIRLPOOL!
This is exactly the problem. They were Fantastical Sea Monster movies first, and Pirate movies second. :s It had too many over the top in-the-open-magical things happening.

I mean, yeah, the opening to At World's End in Singapore, and the gathering of the Pirate Lords in Shipwreck cove were pretty good (forced 300 reference aside), but the rest had too much high fantasy compared to piratey elements.

Silentpony said:
Its just too much. Jumping the shark doesn't even apply. This is ski-jumping a megalodon while dual casting Megidolaon into space and high-fiving God's MILF girlfriend.
Added more, because Megalodon reminded me of a similarly named Shin Megami Tensai Spell. XD
 

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aegix drakan said:
Samtemdo8 said:
But there were also other things to like alot about the movies, better action scenes, the Kraken scenes, THE FUCKING MAELSTROM BATTLE WITH 2 SHIPS FIGHTING IN A GIANT FUCKIN WHIRLPOOL!
This is exactly the problem. They were Fantastical Sea Monster movies first, and Pirate movies second. :s It had too many over the top in-the-open-magical things happening.

I mean, yeah, the opening to At World's End in Singapore, and the gathering of the Pirate Lords in Shipwreck cove were pretty good (forced 300 reference aside), but the rest had too much high fantasy compared to piratey elements.

Silentpony said:
Its just too much. Jumping the shark doesn't even apply. This is ski-jumping a megalodon while dual casting Megidolaon into space and high-fiving God's MILF girlfriend.
Added more, because Megalodon reminded me of a similarly named Shin Megami Tensai Spell. XD
The whole series was built upon Fantasy, you can't deny the first movie had undead pirate skeletons for goodness' sake and who knows what sorcery was play there.

If anything Pirates of the Caribbean is a more grounded in reality version of One Piece.
 
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Samtemdo8 said:
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The whole series was built upon Fantasy, you can't deny the first movie had undead pirate skeletons for goodness' sake and who knows what sorcery was play there.

If anything Pirates of the Caribbean is a more grounded in reality version of One Piece.
The first movie had magic, sure.

But the magic served to enhance the piratey elements, not the other way around.

It was a pirate movie with undead sorcery, not a magical fantasy movie with pirates in it. THAT'S what I'm getting at.

It's not the fantasy elements that are the problem in and of themselves (I enjoyed Stranger Tides after all and that had mermaids and a weird magical cave with an immortality fountain). It's that in movies 2 and 3, the fantasy elements were so huge and front-and-center to the movie.
 

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I like it. I've enjoyed all the Pirate movies, although two and three were...less than great. Stranger Tides kind of recaptured some of the magic, but the first one is still miles above all the others. Still, this looks good enough to me that I am looking forward to it. Captain Jack makes these movies, after all.
 

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Well, for me, ranking the Pirates movies, it's a simple case of 1>2>3>4. Will this buck the trend? I dunno. But it does seem to be treading a lot of old ground, in a series that didn't need to be a series, and certainly didn't need a fourth film.

aegix drakan said:
It's not the fantasy elements that are the problem in and of themselves (I enjoyed Stranger Tides after all and that had mermaids and a weird magical cave with an immortality fountain). It's that in movies 2 and 3, the fantasy elements were so huge and front-and-center to the movie.
I can sympathize with that, but even while the fantasy elements became more overt as time went on, the fantasy elements were still present in the first film.

The first two I found pretty good and enjoyable. Film 3 had some epic moments, but was hindered by its length and how 'stretched' it felt - trying to cover so much that even its length couldn't provide for. The fourth film I just found dull. Story was dull, action was dull, characters were dull, etc.
 

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As someone who loved the first 3 and found the fourth to be rather disappointing I'm hoping 5 manages to impress.
 

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While I often find the movie rankings you do kinda weird, I'm in complete agreement for once. As a guy who rarely rewatches movies I find the first PotC one of THE most rewatchable ones. It did everything right back then and became easily one of the best PG-13 action movies ever. A series was born and it just got long and grandiose and seemingly just "fan favourites" dicking around a lot. And a bit grim too.