Pirates provide a better service

[peruvianskys]

Just because something's convenient doesn't make it right.

Yeah, why is the discussion ever framed in terms of ease of use instead of moral worth?

I could go out right now and buy a stolen car for far less than manufacturer's suggested retail price, and it would probably be in nice shape if I look in the right places; does that mean that I have the right to do so?

If it's from a money-grubbing publisher and an exhausted developer that's more or less been put to irons to work on a franchise day in and day out - I'll pirate.

Thank you for describing your approach - now, would you be so kind as to tell us why you think such action is justified, either morally or economically?

 

[Doclector]

This is what dumbass publishers will never goddamn realise. This is what big business will never goddamn realise.

Hell, it happens to a lesser extent with films. I pick up one of my many DVDs, I have to wait through the logos. I have to wait through the piracy warnings. Oh yes, warning me that I shouldn't commit piracy when I already didn't. These can never be skipped, and sometimes, they have the balls to show the same warnings twice in one way or another.

It's a minor inconveniance, but when you know that pirated versions, the free versions, do not even have the warning on them, I start to get a little pissed that I'm not even allowed to skip their useless warning.

Fact is, I know these companies piss themselves because they think "Oh shit, we can't compete with people who charge precisely jack shit." but...they can. A good service makes you feel privileged. Valued. A good service gives you the feeling of everything being so easy and simple that it's definately worth paying for. And certainly, at no point, should the pirate be able to play their games and watch their films far quicker and easier than the legitimate buyer. That's when people get pissed. When you have to wait for ubisoft's servers to work in order to play AC3's single player, that's when you've lost people. When you have to wait for bullshit piracy warnings despite the fact that you are already watching a legitimate DVD, that's when you've lost people.

 

[Signa]

1) Buy a game from shop
2) Put it in 360 at disk tray to start up screen 30 seconds.
3) Play game

Time taken about 5 minutes.

Sorry i shouldn't of wrote that just wanted consoles to be seen as a better alternative than pirating games

Not trying to hate on your console, but I timed how long it took to get into gameplay from my desktop in Borderlands 2 the other day, and it was 35 seconds. I don't even have a SSD. Most games on the 360 take 20+ seconds just to get to the main menu. Really though, if you want fast loading times, go find yourself an old console like a SNES. I've been playing mine lately, and my TV loses to the SNES's load times just by trying to change the inputs with the remote.

 

[Odbarc]

Pirates have more pride in what they release.

 

[Lunar Templar]

Here's what happens when I buy a game from Steam:
1) Buy a game from steam
2) Download it at 3,4MB/s average speed,
3) Run it and it crashes at launch (Ubisoft error 1)
4) Install more DRM from Ubisoft
5) Wait for launcher to update itself
6) Register an account on Ubisoft DRM.
7) Then wait for launcher to update the game
8) Play game

Time taken: <1 hour, depending on the size of the game.

this is the average experience with Steam.

in fact the only time your example of DRM getting into way is when i forge to check for it. Steam is just fine as far as DRM goes, there's no reason for GFWL to be on anything, ever.

can't comment on Ubisoft's DRM, i don't buy games from them

 

[BlazeRaider]

I bet it's much easier to provide more convenient service when you don't have to worry about profitability or actually maintaining the infrastructure required to make the game in the first place.

 

[Colt47]

Just get all your PC games on steam. it's great. Till the day you move house and you can't play your games because you don't have internet and the steam client needs you to be online to switch to offline mode.

In other news GoG.com > all

Actually, I just tested your scenario using my home PC and it gives the option to play in offline mode due to not finding a connection. Where exactly are you getting your information from?

personal experience. test it all you want, i know what happend to me. Try your test again but this time actually click the offline mode button. see what happens.

Just get all your PC games on steam. it's great. Till the day you move house and you can't play your games because you don't have internet and the steam client needs you to be online to switch to offline mode.

In other news GoG.com > all

Actually, I just tested your scenario using my home PC and it gives the option to play in offline mode due to not finding a connection. Where exactly are you getting your information from?

No clue. I never logged on to steam on my laptop in over a year and I can still play the steam games fine. Also, my internet crashed and steam gave the option to switch to offline mode despite no internet and I played my games just fine. His point is proven moot.

sorry, i got confused and forgot what universe i was in. Thanks for making me realise this is the universe where my personal experiences are a lie.

Out of curiosity, did you buy WarZ?

Yeah, I went and played Ys Origin just fine, so I think it was a fluke. Also, why are you asking me about that? I don't think anyone I know bought War Z, let alone myself...

 

[bafrali]

As a former pirate who now has a steam profile with over 100 games (not to mention my GOG profile) I disagree with your opinion.

Thanks for that useless insight. Try and put reasons for your opinion next time you post.

viruses, slow downloads, broken links, leftover rars, CD images, pain of conscious, religious reasons. Take it or leave it.

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This guy brought me to the light.

 

[NerfedFalcon]

Most of those steps were to do with Ubisoft. In the immortal words of Adam Savage: "Well, there's your problem." Steam is also definitely nowhere near as slow as 250kb/s most of the time, and your statistic doesn't show TPB as being much faster - maybe you should get a new router or switch to Google Fiber, or something like that.

 

[Madman123456]

Or are you saying you avoid everything to do with them. The latter I would be okay with but if it's the former than you are just condemning game developers to unemployment.

That one. I wouldn't even download any of their Product. To be perfectly honest, that's partly because i'm scared i'd catch something like the GTA 4 securom thingy again which has been literally harder to get rid off then the Plague.
No really, if you manage to catch the Plague today, take two pills a day for two weeks. Done.
Have securom on your drive? Find bits and pieces of it in your registry a year later.

 

[SextusMaximus]

As a former pirate who now has a steam profile with over 100 games (not to mention my GOG profile) I disagree with your opinion.

Thanks for that useless insight. Try and put reasons for your opinion next time you post.

viruses, slow downloads, broken links, leftover rars, CD images, pain of conscious, religious reasons. Take it or leave it.


This guy brought me to the light.

Totally, Steams platform - I would go as far as saying - is the only thing right with game distribution today.

 

[goodman528]

Another example: On GTA: IV Lost and Damned, I tried to save game, but it turns out I need a windows live account! FFS! I just want to play offline and save the game on my local machine. I don't have an X-Box, I don't have a hotmail account, and I have a really bad internet connection.

Will delete from steam and pirate it instead.